3 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Im not doing it for you google where the most sex crime illegals come from and there culture of females then come back and post what you found.

More native born and bred English white boys rape native born English white girls than illegal male immigrants from Afghanistan do.

Hope this helps.

Edited June 14Jun 14 by NanLaew

26 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

33 boats carrying 800 people in total, not per boat.

It indicates that the Australian Navy was only able to intercept a small proportion of boats, and that most illegal immigrants in Australia enter by air. The reductions were achieved not through interceptions at sea, but through diplomacy.

20,000 people per year by sea (its a guess by the Australians, by definition illegal immigrants disappear into the black economy). 24 people per boat. So about 800 boats a year, hitting mostly the Western and Northern sides of Australia, which are mostly uninhabited. That's about 21,000kms of coastline to protect. Assuming the Australian navy patrolled out to about 200kms, that is about 4.2 million kms, about the size of India.

Operation Sovereign Border, at any one time, involved 7 patrol boats, a couple of frigates and a support vessel during the cyclone season. You seriously think they went anywhere near intercepting about 2 boats a day? They intercepted about 1 boat a month.

33 boats is over a 5 year period

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/operation-sovereign-borders-blocked-33-boats-in-five-years/3jm4g00gp

So you have focused on the apparent success of the Royal Australian Navy. You spent the last 10 years of your life thinking they have picked up 20,000 when in fact its just a few hundred, and lots of sailors had jollies.

"You seriously think they went anywhere near intercepting about 2 boats a day? They intercepted about 1 boat a month."

Is that a fact, or a guess?

As to the source of your data, I had never heard of SBS Australia but a Google search reveals they are publicly funded and widely classified as having a center-left to lean-left editorial bias which would mean pro-illegal migration and open borders, so might downplay numbers. However, it's quite possible they are honest but made a genuine mistake due to a DEI hire or something.

The BBC link quotes www.aph.gov.au, the official website of the Parliament of Australia, as the source of its migrant data, which is clearly set out in a chart contained in a .pdf file, so is a primary source which others refer to when researching the subject.

If you prefer your secondary left-leaning source over official government documents, good for you.

Edited June 14Jun 14 by nexus7

20 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

More native born and bred English white boys rape native born English white girls than illegal male immigrants from Afghanistan do.

Hope this helps.

Have you heard of per capita?

38 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

Can you give a quick list where it is legal to kill or rape anybody? Maybe a few links supporting this your legal claim?

Just looking, if you might have a coherent argument, though I doubt it.

Bacha bazi in Afghanistan is still widely practised.

6 minutes ago, nexus7 said:

Have you heard of per capita?

Yes I have. Furthermore, I know what it means and understand it's irrelevance to this discussion.

News just in, British-born man of Pakistani ethnicity has been charged with the attempted murder.

On 6/13/2026 at 11:09 AM, Gecko123 said:

The video above posted by @connda shows the perpetrator doing what looks to me like a crude attempt at hip-hop jump dancing or just excitedly jumping in the air immediately after the stabbing. But I'm not buying for a second @baansgr 's earlier cynical claim that the term "chimping" when used in this context wasn't intended to carry any racial connotation.

I think we can all understand the connotation of chimpping. We have seen it many times with the Hip Hop artists and even among the American football players after they score a touchdown. It could be a tribal thing.

12 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Yes I have. Furthermore, I know what it means and understand it's irrelevance to this discussion.

Thought experiment. If there was fictional country where 50% of the men statistically couldn't control their urges and so raped when the opportunity arose, you would be happy to have say, 100 of them come in and live near you and your family, because 50 rapes is statistically small when compared to the number committed by the larger white indigenous population?

10 minutes ago, nexus7 said:

Thought experiment. If there was fictional country where 50% of the men statistically couldn't control their urges and so raped when the opportunity arose, you would be happy to have say, 100 of them come in and live near you and your family, because 50 rapes is statistically small when compared to the number committed by the larger white indigenous population?

Your thought experiment actually assumes a different planet, to present the case you hypothesise about. Why not come up with the scenario of a country where all men are rapists?

So how many legs and eyes do these "men" have? And did they announce, when they arrived "Take me to your leader"?

Based on some shocking cases in the press, it seems that many British expatriates, and probably tourists, are either paedophiles or bank robbers/drug dealers on the run. Ergo, Britain is a nation full of paedophiles, drug dealers, drug addicts and bank robbers. The solution is to stop all tourism in Thailand, because just because someone says they are Swedish, how do we know they are just lying. Americans and Canadians speak the same language, so they also must be a nation full of paedophiles.

You are attempting a Straw Man. It's not the place. Try another tack to make your point.

45 minutes ago, nexus7 said:

"You seriously think they went anywhere near intercepting about 2 boats a day? They intercepted about 1 boat a month."

Is that a fact, or a guess?

As to the source of your data, I had never heard of SBS Australia but a Google search reveals they are publicly funded and widely classified as having a center-left to lean-left editorial bias which would mean pro-illegal migration and open borders, so might downplay numbers. However, it's quite possible they are honest but made a genuine mistake due to a DEI hire or something.

The BBC link quotes www.aph.gov.au, the official website of the Parliament of Australia, as the source of its migrant data, which is clearly set out in a chart contained in a .pdf file, so is a primary source which others refer to when researching the subject.

If you prefer your secondary left-leaning source over official government documents, good for you.

The quote did not come from SBS Australia, but from "The Australian".

Obviously not a guess. 31 boats over 60 months, allowing for seasonal peaks and troughs, rounding up. 1 boat a month was a fair approximation based on that available data.

Parliamentary briefing from the Australian Border Force. Its covers the period from 2013 to 2025, so a longer period than the period you are claiming is a lie.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2026/fa-251001997-document-released.PDF

The exact same data appears in this source, but you may prefer the original Australian government source to conduct your own analysis, and construct analytics to support your position.

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/asylum-boats-statistics/2/

Between September 2013 and October 2025, a total of 2,518 maritime suspected illegal immigrants were intercepted.

A Venture is essentially a smuggling boat. So, in a 12 year period, there were 103 "ventures resolved" (ie intercepted).

So about 9 boats a year were intercepted, each carrying about 24-25 people. I think it doesn't invalidate my original estimate, which you erroneously thought was a guess.

The report goes into some depth about immigration trends, and shows, like the UK, the question of illegal immigration is complex, and while obviously very visible, beach landings are not the major source of illegal immigrants.

I repeat, you misunderstood the source the BBC used.

You stated:

The BBC, which is pro-migration, states in 2013, 20,000 tried to make the journey in 300 boats, not 800 in 33 boats.

The source for this claim is give as

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/Research

Which isn't a source at all. I know you didn't bother to look for the source, just took it as fact, while accusing me of making things up because it didn't fit your own bias.

I see these numbers quoted by Julie Bishop, but again, not giving the basis for them:

https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/julie-bishop/transcript-eoe/press-conference-nato-headquarters

There is a statement from then then opposition (Morrison) in Hansard

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Hansard/Hansard_Display?bid=chamber/hansardr/9876e2b9-5961-455f-aa38-455af1c59cb8/&sid=0074

Let's just look at the track record for all of the arrivals. Two hundred and eighty-eight boats and 18,255 people have arrived in Australia since August 14 last year. This was when the Gillard Labor government agreed to open Nauru as an offshore processing centre. This was their big deterrent. Clearly that has not worked either. Since the last federal election there have been 673 boats and 40,772 people that have arrived illegally on our shores. What a great track record—they should be so proud!

This seems to be the origin of Bishop's claims; she rounded up these numbers. Morrison appears to be referring to some report, which you claim to have seen in pdf format, but refuse to divulge.

These were a referral to landings between August 2012 and May 2013. There is no indication is the politician obtained actual statistics or that the department, more probably, provided an estimate (they will have found some boats washed up on a beach, found some people wandering around, and then estimated if there were other undiscovered boats and peoples. Whatever you mean by "DEI Hire" (besides it being complete <deleted>) is irrelevant; its a mixture of the border authorities modelling out the numbers and a politician then inflating them, to resent as fact, in order to make subsequent policies look better.

But you still miss the point, The UK isn't a former isolated penal colony now known as Australia. The problem is very different. But you continue to try and distract, falsely accusing me of using bent statistics. I have made an effort to rise above your hateful rhetoric.

20 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

The quote did not come from SBS Australia, but from "The Australian".

Obviously not a guess. 31 boats over 60 months, allowing for seasonal peaks and troughs, rounding up. 1 boat a month was a fair approximation based on that available data.

Parliamentary briefing from the Australian Border Force. Its covers the period from 2013 to 2025, so a longer period than the period you are claiming is a lie.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2026/fa-251001997-document-released.PDF

The exact same data appears in this source, but you may prefer the original Australian government source to conduct your own analysis, and construct analytics to support your position.

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/asylum-boats-statistics/2/

Between September 2013 and October 2025, a total of 2,518 maritime suspected illegal immigrants were intercepted.

A Venture is essentially a smuggling boat. So, in a 12 year period, there were 103 "ventures resolved" (ie intercepted).

So about 9 boats a year were intercepted, each carrying about 24-25 people. I think it doesn't invalidate my original estimate, which you erroneously thought was a guess.

The report goes into some depth about immigration trends, and shows, like the UK, the question of illegal immigration is complex, and while obviously very visible, beach landings are not the major source of illegal immigrants.

I repeat, you misunderstood the source the BBC used.

You stated:

The source for this claim is give as

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/Research

Which isn't a source at all. I know you didn't bother to look for the source, just took it as fact, while accusing me of making things up because it didn't fit your own bias.

I see these numbers quoted by Julie Bishop, but again, not giving the basis for them:

https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/julie-bishop/transcript-eoe/press-conference-nato-headquarters

There is a statement from then then opposition (Morrison) in Hansard

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Hansard/Hansard_Display?bid=chamber/hansardr/9876e2b9-5961-455f-aa38-455af1c59cb8/&sid=0074

This seems to be the origin of Bishop's claims; she rounded up these numbers. Morrison appears to be referring to some report, which you claim to have seen in pdf format, but refuse to divulge.

These were a referral to landings between August 2012 and May 2013. There is no indication is the politician obtained actual statistics or that the department, more probably, provided an estimate (they will have found some boats washed up on a beach, found some people wandering around, and then estimated if there were other undiscovered boats and peoples. Whatever you mean by "DEI Hire" (besides it being complete <deleted>) is irrelevant; its a mixture of the border authorities modelling out the numbers and a politician then inflating them, to resent as fact, in order to make subsequent policies look better.

But you still miss the point, The UK isn't a former isolated penal colony now known as Australia. The problem is very different. But you continue to try and distract, falsely accusing me of using bent statistics. I have made an effort to rise above your hateful rhetoric.

"Parliamentary briefing from the Australian Border Force. Its covers the period from 2013 to 2025, so a longer period than the period you are claiming is a lie.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/foi/files/2026/fa-251001997-document-released.PDF..."

Your source strangely starts from the end of the year on Sep 18th 2013, so misses out the first 9 months of the year. It also misses out 2012, when there were 110 boats and 7983 illegal migrants.

Possibly that accounts for the discrepency, they have chosen to remove the most active months to skew the statistics!

"...The source for this claim is give as

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/Research

Which isn't a source at all. I know you didn't bother to look for the source, just took it as fact, while accusing me of making things up because it didn't fit your own bias..."

Yes, it is a source. The 2023 BBC link to the www.aph.gov.au webbsite is broken now and needs updating, but if you use the Wayback Machine, you can find the page when it existed and download their .pdf with the relevant statistics of 20K+ migrants in 300 boats.

To get back on topic

Following consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service, Junaid Nawaz, 30, of Livingstone Walk, Brierfield – who is British born of Pakistani heritage – has been charged with attempted murder and possession of a knife in a public place.

Continued

https://news.lancashire.police.uk/news/2026/june/man-charged-with-stabbing-teenage-girl-in-brierfield/

Edited June 14Jun 14 by nexus7

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

More native born and bred English white boys rape native born English white girls than illegal male immigrants from Afghanistan do.

Hope this helps.

They don't stab them in the neck though Nan hope this helps you.

Edited June 14Jun 14 by BarraMarra

4 hours ago, nexus7 said:

Bacha bazi in Afghanistan is still widely practised.

"Widely practiced" is not the same as "legal". Still you played stupid and gave the example as if you knew a thing.

So I guess, facts are a difficult thing for your kind to grasp. I fault the education you likely did (not) enjoy.

Edited June 14Jun 14 by jts-khorat

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

They don't stab them in the neck though Nan hope this helps you.

There's no evidence to suggest that Afghan rapists also stab their victims in the neck. None whatsoever.

Well this one did althogh he appears to be British Pakistani. Is it normal for run up to a tten girl and stab her in the neck then gloat about it Nan ??

On 6/13/2026 at 10:24 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Crikey, I've attracted all the leftist, Wokes on my comment.

Prefer to be someone who sees the facts and can accept them as opposed to someone who sees the facts and under delusion blames the other side.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

Well this one did althogh he appears to be British Pakistani. Is it normal for run up to a tten girl and stab her in the neck then gloat about it Nan ??

oops 2 spelling errors should have been Although and teen before the spelling and Grammer police jump on me.

10 hours ago, nexus7 said:

Thought experiment. If there was fictional country where 50% of the men statistically couldn't control their urges and so raped when the opportunity arose, you would be happy to have say, 100 of them come in and live near you and your family, because 50 rapes is statistically small when compared to the number committed by the larger white indigenous population?

I see your "thought experiment" and raise you a "ridiculously inept hypothetical."

3 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Well this one did althogh he appears to be British Pakistani. Is it normal for run up to a tten girl and stab her in the neck then gloat about it Nan ??

There's no evidence to suggest that English-born Pakistani rapists also stab their victims in the neck either. None whatsoever.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

oops 2 spelling errors should have been Although and teen before the spelling and Grammer police jump on me.

If you pause, take a deep breath and count to 10 or 20 before hammering out another witless response, the spelling and grammar should easily improve. Whether your response will be more grounded in fact isn't guaranteed.

10 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

There's no evidence to suggest that English-born Pakistani rapists also stab their victims in the neck either. None whatsoever.

I wouldn't be surprised that the suspect handed himself in, or wasn't far away when apprehended, and that this is nothing to do with race or religion.

Junaid Nawaz 30 charged with attempted murder... pakistani heratige...its on the bbc news

1 hour ago, Martin71 said:

Junaid Nawaz 30 charged with attempted murder... pakistani heratige...its on the bbc news

Already mentioned in this thread ~12 hours ago.

1 hour ago, Roadsternut said:

I wouldn't be surprised that the suspect handed himself in, or wasn't far away when apprehended, and that this is nothing to do with race or religion.

I understand that he was arrested on the street, not far from where he stabbed the girl. However, I am sure this won't be considered relevant by those here who believe that you can only be white to claim English birthright.

Nutters everywhere these days.

1 hour ago, Martin71 said:

Junaid Nawaz 30 charged with attempted murder... pakistani heratige...its on the bbc news

That's what happens.

When you import cave men and cave women into the uk

They have cave-baby that grows up to act like cave man dad.

Hope he gets 10 years in jail.

But we all know the system is so broken

He will get 6 months jail suspended for one year and 5 hours community service.

And some how , along the preceding's the victim will get blamed in some way for this stabbing.

Broken Britain. The shining beacon of the west.

31 minutes ago, rocketboy2 said:

That's what happens.

When you import cave men and cave women into the uk

They have cave-baby that grows up to act like cave man dad.

Hope he gets 10 years in jail.

But we all know the system is so broken

He will get 6 months jail suspended for one year and 5 hours community service.

And some how , along the preceding's the victim will get blamed in some way for this stabbing.

Broken Britain. The shining beacon of the west.

Of course he's a Brit through and through 😁 😁 😁 that's why the country is in a mess. Corrupt councillors, Mayors and politicians who most are "Brits".. or that's what their plastic passport says. Ask him some simple questions about British culture and history and he won't be able to answer one of them. So in reality hes not a Brit and most foreigners will say I'm Indian British. Or pakistani British etc...so proofing the point they are in fact not British.

2 hours ago, Martin71 said:

Junaid Nawaz 30 charged with attempted murder... pakistani heratige...its on the bbc news

Is this the guy that stabbed the 17 year old boy who then had his leg cut off

On 6/13/2026 at 11:44 AM, bannork said:

Meanwhile back in the UK there are plenty of native Brits committing horrible crimes too

but the authorities never considered turning a bling eye for fear of upsetting leftists, and no doubt they received an appropriate sentence. nobody is denying that there are home grown offenders but is it sensible to import additional sex offenders

On 6/13/2026 at 11:09 AM, Gecko123 said:

The video above posted by @connda shows the perpetrator doing what looks to me like a crude attempt at hip-hop jump dancing or just excitedly jumping in the air immediately after the stabbing. But I'm not buying for a second @baansgr 's earlier cynical claim that the term "chimping" when used in this context wasn't intended to carry any racial connotation.

What’s the difference between hiphop jump dancing and chimping? I have no idea

Yet another scary attack in the uk . Starmer must be furious that someone posted it on social media he hates the truth coming out

He must be hunting down the poster as we speak

I doubt he’s too worried about the stabber though. He’ll consider it just another white egg cracked to make his diversity omelette