14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Like I said, all religions are man made, and contain things that aren't necessary for a person to have a personal relationship with God and Jesus.

No such thing as a "personal relationship" with Jesus, who you cannot see or hear and who cannot communicate with you.

You are basically speaking to yourself and imagining what Jesus might say to you if he were present.

But it's all just fantasy.

18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It was a test of faith like it says. God stopped him before he carried it out, but it showed God his faith in him. Not many would be so faithful, but it served it's purpose with Abraham.

A pointless exercise in torture of a father.

17 minutes ago, marin said:

Each and every one was well deserved. Look at the way mods and admin are always having to throttle you. You dont live here and know little about the culture, people, or food yet trumpet yourself all day every day. I have lived here in the middle of Thai society for 37 years. Of course I am going to call out your BS. Learn to live with it or grow up. Most of the posters here are expats and feel the way I do, its one big reason you presently have 3 nicks with negative repo. In fact your Harris fan account has way more negative repo than posts. Perhaps look inward instead of attacking good posters with your relentless questions day after day after day.

Personally here, not bothered much of what others have to post, though it’s a bit entertaining at times pointing out some of the stuff that some folks come up with here.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

No such thing as a "personal relationship" with Jesus, who you cannot see or hear and who cannot communicate with you.

You are basically speaking to yourself and imagining what Jesus might say to you if he were present.

But it's all just fantasy.

That's what a non believer would say. I talk to God and Jesus all the time. We think he hears us, and that's part of our beliefs. It means you believe he's there listening. That we believe in his prior learning sessions passed through time. That our lives are in his hands, not only living for our own personal gains on earth but ones that will have him save us a spot in heaven.

How you treat others can be what you learned on how he did.

What belief system do others who don't believe in God have? Something man made which could be for the good of others or following the laws he made which definitely go in that direction? This is a good answer from another..............

Christians believe that Jesus is alive, he knows us intimately, and is our best friend above all others. A personal relationship with him is exactly that: a relationship very much akin to that we have with other close friends and family members. Often people focus on the majesty and "kingliness" side of Jesus, and in doing so are tempted to distance themselves from him by seeing him as some distant, untouchable, unreachable figure on a throne high above us; but to have a personal relationship with him means to accept our own position as co-heirs with him, to share our lives much more openly with him.

As a Brit, when I meet (earthly) royalty I dress up and put on my best manners, and in effect put on a show. I don't need to do that with Jesus - he's seen me naked, in my own home, he shares my ups and downs and secrets that I certainly wouldn't blurt out to the Queen if I met her. So while acknowledging that Jesus is King, I don't treat him in a stand-offish formal way because he's also my best friend. That's what it means to have a personal relationship with him..

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

A pointless exercise in torture of a father.

But it showed God Abraham's faith. That was the point.

I have great respect for those who have faith.

Though it be Blind Faith, still it sustains them like nothing else.

One should feel only envy for those who beleive in God, or gods, or Anything.

They are the fortunate ones.

Note: I suppose there is really not need to add a music vid here from Blind Faith......

No.

No need.

13 minutes ago, novacova said:

it’s a bit entertaining at times pointing out some of the stuff that some folks come up with here.

Thank you.

My Topics are always entertaining.

Most successful sportsmen believe in god.

6 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Thank you.

My Topics are always entertaining.

Yes sir, of course.

48 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It was a test of faith like it says. God stopped him before he carried it out, but it showed God his faith in him. Not many would be so faithful, but it served it's purpose with Abraham.

It is a bloody silly story made up by humans to indoctrinate others. And as for a Western man believing in what allegedly happened in the mind of others thousands of years ago, I find it ridiculous. So many videos questioning the existence of JC, written by men hundreds of years later, all storytelling.

But as you say quite rightly, everyone to their own. Some like United and some like City.

31 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Most successful sportsmen believe in god.

But, is God a sportsman/sportswoman, at heart, do you think?

29 minutes ago, novacova said:

Yes sir, of course.

Thank you.

Your approval means a great deal to me.

I know that you know this.

51 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

But, is God a sportsman/sportswoman, at heart, do you think?

Do whatever works for you.

I beleive there is 72 virgins waiting.

Allahu Akbar.

Edited June 15Jun 15 by Ralf001

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

That's what a non believer would say. I talk to God and Jesus all the time. We think he hears us, and that's part of our beliefs. It means you believe he's there listening. That we believe in his prior learning sessions passed through time. That our lives are in his hands, not only living for our own personal gains on earth but ones that will have him save us a spot in heaven.

How you treat others can be what you learned on how he did.

What belief system do others who don't believe in God have? Something man made which could be for the good of others or following the laws he made which definitely go in that direction? This is a good answer from another..............

Christians believe that Jesus is alive, he knows us intimately, and is our best friend above all others. A personal relationship with him is exactly that: a relationship very much akin to that we have with other close friends and family members. Often people focus on the majesty and "kingliness" side of Jesus, and in doing so are tempted to distance themselves from him by seeing him as some distant, untouchable, unreachable figure on a throne high above us; but to have a personal relationship with him means to accept our own position as co-heirs with him, to share our lives much more openly with him.

As a Brit, when I meet (earthly) royalty I dress up and put on my best manners, and in effect put on a show. I don't need to do that with Jesus - he's seen me naked, in my own home, he shares my ups and downs and secrets that I certainly wouldn't blurt out to the Queen if I met her. So while acknowledging that Jesus is King, I don't treat him in a stand-offish formal way because he's also my best friend. That's what it means to have a personal relationship with him..

I would say 'Oh my God', but luckily I do not have one. You are obviously entitled to your beliefs anf who you think you are talking to, but if you did it out loud, you would be institutionlised. Oh sorry, many of them do do it out loud together whatever their religion , God or Messiah, a word which I have not heard you use.

Were Mohammed and Jesus both classed as THE Messiah?

Edited June 15Jun 15 by wil iam not

'Well, I believe in the soul. The cock, the pussy, the small of a woman’s back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing AstroTurf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve.'

17 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

9 hours ago, wil iam not said:

I would say 'Oh my God', but luckily I do not have one. You are obviously entitled to your beliefs anf who you think you are talking to, but if you did it out loud, you would be institutionlised. Oh sorry, many of them do do it out loud together whatever their religion , God or Messiah, a word which I have not heard you use.

Were Mohammed and Jesus both classed as THE Messiah?

They would need a institution the size of Thailand to house all the believers.

Jesus and Muhammed were considered prophets,Muhammed being also a political and military leader, Jesus a prophet who taught God's ways and predicted some things that were to happen, along with raising a man from death, healing blind, lepers and feeding crowds with a few loaves of bread and fish,

The Messiah was a word reserved by Islam for Jesus.

15 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Hi Fred, I'm pro your thoughts but realistically, where is heaven.

Where is heaven?

Some say it's above, where is above?

Look above, it's stretches to the end of the universe, 14 billion light years away.

It will take us good people a long time to get there and it keeps expanding at the speed of light.

Anyway, the earth is spinning at 1000 miles per hour, I'm getting dizzy

The earth is spinning at 1000 miles/hr, I'm getting dizzy

Heaven and hell are both found here on earth.

Some people are born into hell. Some people create hell.

But heaven also exists in life.

The theme is wide, so I keep it short, we have one lifetime to do our best, and to leave less hell behind us.

Edited June 15Jun 15 by Hummin

54 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Some people are born into hell. Some people create hell.

I cried this morning after hearing about the 37 year old high school teacher who adopted a 9 month old baby boy, and within 4 month he physically and sexulally abused the child with penetration. His 32 year old male partner found guily of allowing and videoing the crime. They said the baby drowned in the bath, but had 40, yes 40, briuses and injuries on his body.Sentencing on Thursday. For me, bring back public castration followed by short drop hanging, see his legs flailing as he tries to breathe.

Why did Wiggy's God allow this?

Edited June 16Jun 16 by wil iam not

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

They would need a institution the size of Thailand to house all the believers.

Jesus and Muhammed were considered prophets,Muhammed being also a political and military leader, Jesus a prophet who taught God's ways and predicted some things that were to happen, along with raising a man from death, healing blind, lepers and feeding crowds with a few loaves of bread and fish,

The Messiah was a word reserved by Islam for Jesus.

Up early today? Give it a rest Fred, please stop your silly answers here on AN, and keep your beliefs to yourself, and anyone else who follows these stories from the past.

'All the believers' you say, to house all the believers, in which religion you do not say, so only 70 million of them eh?

You are completely wrong saying that it was resevered by Islam for Jesus, if so, why do Christians call him The Messiah. It comes from the Hebrew word mashiach and it's Greek equivalent Christos.

And John Winston was absolutely correct when he said that The Beatles were more popular in UK, than JC at that time, and is probably the same, except substitute iPhone for The Beatles sadly. At least they are not going to ban under 16s from listening to music.on their phones usually.

3 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

and keep your beliefs to yourself, an

Forums are for people to post their opinions.

12 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

I cried this morning after hearing about the 37 year old high school teacher who adopted a 9 month old baby boy, and within 4 month he physically and sexulally abused the child with penetration. His 32 year old male partner found guily of allowing and videoing the crime. They said the baby drowned in the bath, but had 40, yes 40, briuses and injuries on his body.Sentencing on Thursday. For me, bring back public castration followed by short drop hanging, see his legs flailing as he tries to breathe.

Why did Wiggy's God allow this?

They will be sentenced this week

"A Home Office post-mortem examination ruled out drowning as the cause of death, with the cause found to be acute upper airways obstruction by an object or objects inserted into his mouth."

Teacher guilty of abusing and murdering adopted baby boy

Preston Davey died after months of sexual and physical abuse at the hands of Jamie Varley.

14 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

I cried this morning after hearing about the 37 year old high school teacher who adopted a 9 month old baby boy, and within 4 month he physically and sexulally abused the child with penetration. His 32 year old male partner found guily of allowing and videoing the crime. They said the baby drowned in the bath, but had 40, yes 40, briuses and injuries on his body.Sentencing on Thursday. For me, bring back public castration followed by short drop hanging, see his legs flailing as he tries to breathe.

Why did Wiggy's God allow this?

I got something better for him/they, the Blood Eagle, said to have been used in the Viking Age. But honestly, I cannot wrap my head around how anyone can hurt children or innocent people. That is beyond my imagination. Some things are so dark they are hard to understand, even when you know humans are capable of almost anything.

Animals can be brutal, but they are not consciously cruel in the same way humans can be.

blood eagle,” which is linked to Viking-era stories and torture/execution legends. The Blood Eagle was a legendary Viking execution, described as opening a man’s back and making the ribs and lungs look like eagle wings.

Edited June 16Jun 16 by Hummin

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I got something better for him/they, the Blood Eagle, said to have been used in the Viking Age. But honestly, I cannot wrap my head around how anyone can hurt children or innocent people. That is beyond my imagination. Some things are so dark they are hard to understand, even when you know humans are capable of almost anything.

Animals can be brutal, but they are not consciously cruel in the same way humans can be.

blood eagle,” which is linked to Viking-era stories and torture/execution legends. The Blood Eagle was a legendary Viking execution, described as opening a man’s back and making the ribs and lungs look like eagle wings.

Nah, that Blood Eagle is too good for them.

Everything the Torah, Bible or the Quran says about the Earth in relation to the rest of the cosmos is flat Earth cosmology from the Iron Age, so they couldn’t have been written or given or dictated by any gods or angels because they would have known better.

We have sufficient evidence in science to prove that Adam and Eve are genetically impossible and were not real people. The global population cannot have been derived from a single couple, not six thousand years ago, nor even 600,000 years ago. We descend from a particular population of apes numbering several thousand strong at least, who set out on the road to our lineage at least a few million years ago. To be clear, this is a matter of objectively demonstrable scientific facts, not assumptions. Physical anthropologists and paleo primatologists can show how humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestry is an objectively verifiable fact in the absolute sense that it doesn’t change, meaning that it will not be corrected by new information. It’s not just a probability; it’s a certainty.

Then we have the problems in the sacred texts that show god to be capricious, evil, jealous and motivated by revenge, not to mention promoting slavery and inequality.

In this, the Information Age, any enquiring mind can research what they were taught when they were children and had impressionable minds.

We all managed to escape the belief in Santa Claus, but why not god? That single fact says more about those who still believe (and what it says is not good) than those who have researched and rationalised the whole situation.

I watched a video of an Imam who when discussing where Sperm comes from insists that science must be wrong and the Quran must be right.

It amuses me greatly that people can discount science so easily and believe in magic.

Edited June 16Jun 16 by JBChiangRai
Spulling

25 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Everything the Torah, Bible or the Quran says about the Earth in relation to the rest of the cosmos is flat Earth cosmology from the Iron Age, so they couldn’t have been written or given or dictated by any gods or angels because they would have known better.

We have sufficient evidence in science to prove that Adam and Eve are genetically impossible and were not real people. The global population cannot have been derived from a single couple, not six thousand years ago, nor even 600,000 years ago. We descend from a particular population of apes numbering several thousand strong at least, who set out on the road to our lineage at least a few million years ago. To be clear, this is a matter of objectively demonstrable scientific facts, not assumptions. Physical anthropologists and paleo primatologists can show how humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestry is an objectively verifiable fact in the absolute sense that it doesn’t change, meaning that it will not be corrected by new information. It’s not just a probability; it’s a certainty.

Then we have the problems in the sacred texts that show god to be capricious, evil, jealous and motivated by revenge, not to mention promoting slavery and inequality.

In this, the Information Age, any enquiring mind can research what they were taught when they were children and had impressionable minds.

We all managed to escape the belief in Santa Claus, but why not god? That single fact says more about those who still believe (and what it says is not good) than those who have researched and rationalised the whole situation.

I watched a video of an Imam who when discussing where Sperm comes from insists that science must be wrong and the Quran must be right.

It amuses me greatly that people can discount science so easily and believe in magic.

A beautiful poem for you. Have a great day 🌞

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A beautiful poem for you. Have a great day 🌞

Thank you and you too.

I saw god in the toilet bowl, oh wait, sorry it was just a turd.

On 6/14/2026 at 4:45 PM, fredwiggy said:

Believe in God, family, the earth's wonders and an afterlife to enjoy them more. Music, hunting, fishing, good food, friends and cats and dogs.

Which man made God do you believe in? Theirs been a few.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Thank you and you too.

I saw god in the toilet bowl, oh wait, sorry it was just a turd.

Deep, very deep

GG, I believe that every single one of your posts is pure drivel that belongs in a trash bin.