6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Britain is so broken that Count Binface got 9,455 votes in the Clacton election. 😂 😂

It's not broken. It's funny. All those people voting against Farage, despite the absurdity of the candidate they did vote for.

11 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

That more demonstrates that Reform is broken. It shows that 9,455 still have sanity in Clacton.

Imagine if that was your only opposition and you've been in politics for 20+ years, but nearly 10,000 people prefer a bin to represent them.

Your post supports what I have said, does it not?

Britain is so broken, 10,000 people prefer a bin.

There's no good governance and strong leadership in No. 10. Little wonder the UK is in the state it is in today.

11 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

It's not broken. It's funny. All those people voting against Farage, despite the absurdity of the candidate they did vote for.

As I just posted, where was a viable candidate to run in the election? No one and no where to be seen. That's how broken Britain is.

13 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

As I just posted, where was a viable candidate to run in the election? No one and no where to be seen. That's how broken Britain is.

No, it isn't.

The major political parties decided, rightly or wrongly, not to be involved in a Farage publicity stunt.

17 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

As I just posted, where was a viable candidate to run in the election? No one and no where to be seen. That's how broken Britain is.

Plenty of viable candidates, just none of them joining in Farage's expensive and pointless ego stunt. It was a farce so it was right he was challenged by a bin. The fact the bin did so well must be quite humiliating for him. But then his grandiosity / pomposity is so extreme he doesn't even see it.

4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

The major political parties decided, rightly or wrongly, not to be involved in a Farage publicity stunt.

They didn't run because they knew they would be smashed at the polls, further drawing support for Reform. Once again, that's how broken the UK is.

The next general election in the UK will be very interesting.

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

Plenty of viable candidates, just none of them joining in Farage's expensive and pointless ego stunt. It was a farce so it was right he was challenged by a bin. The fact the bin did so well must be quite humiliating for him. But then his grandiosity / pomposity is so extreme he doesn't even see it.

I don't see it that way.

The major parties were too scared to run against him and suffer a humiliating defeat.

3 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I don't see it that way.

The major parties were too scared to run against him and suffer a humiliating defeat.

Up to you.

Why argue with these 2 khun your wasting your time and effort all they want to do is attack Reform. I posted a video concerning a Labour councilors Son Jailed again for spreading terroist material and attacking a police officer. What do these 2 post on it No there not interested they totally ignore it and and just bash farage and reform. Ignore the pair of them. In a thread running why the forum is going downhill its down to members like these 2 Joebloggs and youravinalaff.

Edited August 16Aug 16 by BarraMarra

7 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Why argue with these 2 khun your wasting your time and effort all they want to do is attack Reform. I posted a video concerning a Labour councilors Son Jailed again for spreading terroist material and attacking a police officer. What do these 2 post on it No there not interested they totally ignore it and and just bash farage and reform. Ignore the pair of them. In a thread running why the forum is going downhill its down to members like these 2 Joebloggs and youravinalaff.

Ignore? 🤣🤣🤣 I posted multiple links to show you were asking rubbish. I didn't bash Reform. Next?

Coming to a Town near you. This was 5 busloads of Invaders Entering Braintree in Essex three days ago. Notice the age of them coming from the busses and the lack of females and children getting off them. Off to the Salation army in the town to be processed and sent onto to there hotel or HMO.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by BarraMarra

18 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

There wasn't silence from the media, as I pointed out in my previous comment. Here's a small collection of articles for you to read an then realise you are talking rubbish, again.

There was no mention in your first 5 links (some of which were reporting a previous incident) of his mother's (and gran's) political office holding which was the point being made I think. The only one that does was the last one which came out on the 6th August, after the video you were replying to.

He told his mother of his planned actions and she refuses to say if she reported him.

The big question being asked Treetops is she knew what he was upto and did not notify the Authorities to protect him. Being a member of Parliment she must be seen as squeeky clean.

5 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Being a member of Parliment she must be seen as squeeky clean.

You've seen the light! So do you now agree Farage needs to be squeaky clean and investigated properly and that it is not, in fact, a "witch hunt"?

1 hour ago, treetops said:

There was no mention in your first 5 links (some of which were reporting a previous incident) of his mother's (and gran's) political office holding which was the point being made I think. The only one that does was the last one which came out on the 6th August, after the video you were replying to.

He told his mother of his planned actions and she refuses to say if she reported him.

Correct. However, we were led to believe there was a blanket media silence. There wasn't.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

The big question being asked Treetops is she knew what he was upto and did not notify the Authorities to protect him. Being a member of Parliment she must be seen as squeeky clean.

She's not a member of Parliament.

Stop telling lies and trying to disrupt this thread.

Apologise !!!

Ayesha Arif Title: Cabinet Member for Housing Services Party: Labour Ward: Bury East. Email: a.arif@bury.gov.uk

14 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Stop telling lies and trying to disrupt this thread.

Apologise !!!

Ayesha Arif Title: Cabinet Member for Housing Services Party: Labour Ward: Bury East. Email: a.arif@bury.gov.uk

It's not me that needs to apoligise. You really should learn to kerb your anger, take a step back, think and read. Had you done that, you'd notice the word "ward" as apposed to "constituency".

Here's a sentence from the Bury News article I posted earlier, one you obviovasly didn't read:

" Councillor Ayesha Arif, who represents Bury East and serves as Bury Council’s Cabinet Member for Housing Services".

Bury is split into two constituencies. Bury North and Bury South. There isn't a constituency of Bury East and, therefore, not an MP for that area.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by youreavinalaff

50 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Correct. However, we were led to believe there was a blanket media silence. There wasn't.

I haven't yet seen anything mentioning it before the video put it out there, which I think was more the point. I admit I haven't looked, but just when I looked at the articles you quoted I didn't see them as refuting that.

8 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

You really should learn to kerb your anger, take a step back, think and read. Had you done that, you'd notice the word "ward" as apposed to "constituency".

I don't think it's relevant whether it was Westminster or local government, she had the chance to speak up and didn't so it's questionable whether she should be in the position.

2 minutes ago, treetops said:

I don't think it's relevant whether it was Westminster or local government, she had the chance to speak up and didn't so it's questionable whether she should be in the position.

It's very relevant when someone accuses me of being a liar, again, and demands an apology.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by youreavinalaff

5 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

It's very relevant when someone accuses me of being a liar, again, and demands an apology.

True, I wasn't thinking along those lines, just on the information behind it rather than any personal issues.

10 minutes ago, treetops said:

I haven't yet seen anything mentioning it before the video put it out there, which I think was more the point. I admit I haven't looked, but just when I looked at the articles you quoted I didn't see them as refuting that.

The comment I replied to suggested full information had not been published in the media and neither had his mother's details.

I provided links to prove both wrong.

16 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

The comment I replied to suggested full information had not been published in the media and neither had his mother's details.

I provided links to prove both wrong.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that as I interpreted the claim differently due to the timing of the reports compared to when the video was made, as mentioned above.

7 minutes ago, treetops said:

We'll have to agree to disagree on that as I interpreted the claim differently due to the timing of the reports compared to when the video was made, as mentioned above.

This is the comment I replied to.

"This is Mohammed Zakir Arif the Son of labour Councillor Ayesha Arif jailed recently for possessing material usefull to terroist's and prison security. Of course his mother and other information was not published in the media because she is a serving member and Cabinet minister."

Like I said. I've proved that to be wrong. There has been full publication of his crimes, convictions and sentences. His mother has also been named and mentioned in the proceedings.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by youreavinalaff

13 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

This is the comment I replied to.

"This is Mohammed Zakir Arif the Son of labour Councillor Ayesha Arif jailed recently for possessing material usefull to terroist's and prison security. Of course his mother and other information was not published in the media because she is a serving member and Cabinet minister."

Like I said. I've proved that to be wrong. There has been full publication of his crimes, convictions and sentences. His mother has also been named and mentioned in the proceedings.

The comment was made relating to a video published about 12 days ago. In all the reports linked that were prior to that date there was no mention of his mother.

Subsequent to that, his mother was mentioned in the Bury News article about 6 days ago.

To me that timing smacks of something being hidden until such time as it was exposed by the youtube guy's independent commentary putting it out there.

I agree "there has been full publication of his crimes, convictions and sentences", but that wasn't the gist of the complaint IMO.

4 minutes ago, treetops said:

The comment was made relating to a video published about 12 days ago. In all the reports linked that were prior to that date there was no mention of his mother.

Subsequent to that, his mother was mentioned in the Bury News article about 6 days ago.

To me that timing smacks of something being hidden until such time as it was exposed by the youtube guy's independent commentary putting it out there.

I agree "there has been full publication of his crimes, convictions and sentences", but that wasn't the gist of the complaint IMO.

I was responding to the comment. That comment was made yesterday. I don't know how much plainer I can make it. The comment was wrong and I proved it.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by youreavinalaff

I dont give a flying f how you try and squirm out of this i said she is a serving MP, you responded she is not a member of Parliment. She sits on the housing Committee today and is serving Bury so yes i call you out. Treetops read what her posistion is below.

Councillor Ayesha Arif

https://councildecisions.bury.gov.uk/UserData/1/9/7/Info00000791/bigpic.jpg

https://councildecisions.bury.gov.uk/TagDocs/4/9/1/T00013194/logo.jpg

Title: Cabinet Member for Housing Services

Party: Labour

Ward: Bury East

Other councillors representing this Ward:

• Councillor Ummrana Farooq

• Councillor Gavin McGill

4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

I was responding to the comment. That comment was made yesterday.

About a video made nearly two weeks ago.

5 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

The comment was wrong and I proved it.

Timing is everything, as the saying goes. In this case it is the crux of the matter, again IMO. Why would the Bury News not discuss the family in their initial report of 24th July, prior to the video? As a local new source it must surely have been aware of the connection.

https://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/26408498.bury-man-collected-terrorist-material-jailed-three-years/

7 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Treetops read what her posistion is below.

Local councillor. There is no Westminster constituency called Bury East. The MP for the area is that for Bury North and is James Frith (Lab).

12 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I dont give a flying f how you try and squirm out of this i said she is a serving MP, you responded she is not a member of Parliment. She sits on the housing Committee today and is serving Bury so yes i call you out. Treetops read what her posistion is below.

Councillor Ayesha Arif

https://councildecisions.bury.gov.uk/UserData/1/9/7/Info00000791/bigpic.jpg

https://councildecisions.bury.gov.uk/TagDocs/4/9/1/T00013194/logo.jpg

Title: Cabinet Member for Housing Services

Party: Labour

Ward: Bury East

Other councillors representing this Ward:

• Councillor Ummrana Farooq

• Councillor Gavin McGill

Making the letters bigger doesn't make it less false. Treetops is right.

I think you've been fooled by the word "cabinet".

She is a local government official serving as a Labour Party politician in Greater Manchester. Her current roles include:

Local Councillor: She represents the Bury East ward on the Bury Metropolitan Borough Council.

Cabinet Member: She serves as the Cabinet Member for Housing Services on the council.

It is a council role. She is not an MP.

https://councildecisions.bury.gov.uk/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=791

However to win this argument you could threaten Treetops and then try making her name in even bigger fonts - that should do it.

28 minutes ago, treetops said:

About a video made nearly two weeks ago.

If someone comments in the present about an outdated video as if it's still relevant, not my fault.

It wasn't long ago the same member posted about a "recent" conviction that happened 5 years ago. 😆😆