Perfect opportunity for a spider to come along and catch two flies at the same time.

Netanyahu is considering stopping off in New York for a coffee and bagel on the way home

57 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Just letting you know that anyone can resort to AI when they are on the wrong side of an argument.

Why do so many Muslim converts and defectors constantly warn us about Islam and what goes on and what they are getting taught in schools and across the places of worship in Muslim nations?

Israel’s democratic character does not make it immune from criticism, but it does distinguish it from authoritarian regimes that suppress dissent, lack independent institutions, and deny citizens meaningful political participation.

The 1947 partition plan was accepted by the Jewish leadership and rejected by surrounding Arab governments, after which Israel faced an invading coalition.

Palestinian displacement was a tragic consequence of that war, but presenting it solely as a deliberate Israeli project ignores the broader conflict, Arab rejection of partition, and the displacement of Jewish communities from Arab countries.

The status of the West Bank and Israeli settlements is also contested in legal and political terms, even though most international bodies consider the settlements unlawful. Israel argues that the territory’s final status must be resolved through negotiations and that security concerns—including repeated wars, terrorism, and hostile armed groups—cannot simply be dismissed.

Regarding nuclear weapons, Israel’s ambiguity is widely understood as a deterrence policy shaped by its extreme security environment.

Israel has NEVER publicly threatened nuclear use or proliferated such weapons, while several states that formally joined the NPT have violated or approached violating their obligations.

Holding Israel to standards while ignoring threats from states and armed groups seeking its destruction is not genuine consistency.

Finally, the Muslim population of the region is not being cited as a simple military equation. It demonstrates the strategic imbalance and the need to consider Israel’s vulnerability despite its technological advantages.

It's a little odd that you accuse me of using AI, then immediately post something that reads exactly like it came from AI. Even if either of us did use it, facts don't become false because a computer helped organize them. It's also interesting that with obvious computer assistance, the 'name-called' has disappeared. Good for you. Welcome to adulthood. 🙏

A few points where you are yet again incorrect:

• Yes, the Jewish leadership accepted the UN Partition Plan and Arab leaders rejected it. That happened. It also doesn't erase the fact that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were displaced during the war. Both statements can be true at the same time.

• You call the legality of the settlements "contested." Politically, sure. Legally, the overwhelming majority of international courts, the UN, and most governments consider them illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention. Israel disputes that interpretation, but it's inaccurate to present the legal consensus as if it's evenly split.

• Saying Israel's nuclear policy is justified by security concerns doesn't answer the criticism. The point is that Israel has chosen to remain outside the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and therefore avoids the inspection regime expected of NPT members. Whether you think that's wise or necessary is a separate debate.

• You argue Israel has never publicly threatened nuclear use. Fine. But that wasn't the point. The discussion was about accountability and transparency, not whether an official declaration has been made. Israel's long-standing policy of nuclear ambiguity exists alongside what's commonly referred to as the Samson Option... the widely discussed strategic concept that Israel could resort to nuclear weapons if it faced an existential threat. Israeli governments have never officially confirmed such a doctrine, but it has been discussed by military historians, analysts, and former officials for decades. So portraying Israel's nuclear posture as purely passive and beyond discussion is an oversimplification.

• You mention repeated wars and terrorism as justification for Israeli policy but leave out that decades of occupation, settlement expansion, and military actions have also fueled the cycle. History didn't start with Hamas, Hezbollah, or Iran.

Finally, the "240 million Muslims" argument is still misleading. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel. Saudi Arabia has never launched a war against Israel. Lebanon isn't a unified military actor, and Syria has spent much of the last decade fighting itself. Counting everyone who happens to be Muslim doesn't tell us who is actually preparing to invade.

History is rarely as one-sided as people want it to be. The problem with your argument isn't that it contains facts, it's that it leaves out every inconvenient one.

2 minutes ago, Galong said:

Finally, the "240 million Muslims" argument is still misleading. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel. Saudi Arabia has never launched a war against Israel. Lebanon isn't a unified military actor, and Syria has spent much of the last decade fighting itself. Counting everyone who happens to be Muslim doesn't tell us who is actually preparing to invade.

History is rarely as one-sided as people want it to be. The problem with your argument isn't that it contains facts, it's that it leaves out every inconvenient one.

So, they are not Muslims now? Because they have a treaty, when none will intervene on the side of right, if a Muslim nation is involved?

Are you saying, They don't share the belief from the Qu'ran and wish ill will and the destruction of all Jews and Christians, because they have a treaty?

AI

In Islam, lying is generally considered a major sin, but tactical deception—summarized by the saying "war is deception"—is permitted strictly during an active state of military conflict, and taqiyya allows concealing one's faith only under direct threat.

And the above, just like everything else they do will be changed and corrupted to suit their narrative.

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Netanyahu is considering stopping off in New York for a coffee and bagel on the way home

He should swing by The Hague, pun intended.

8 minutes ago, Galong said:

It's a little odd that you accuse me of using AI, then immediately post something that reads exactly like it came from AI. Even if either of us did use it, facts don't become false because a computer helped organize them. It's also interesting that with obvious computer assistance, the 'name-called' has disappeared. Good for you. Welcome to adulthood. 🙏

A few points where you are yet again incorrect:

• Yes, the Jewish leadership accepted the UN Partition Plan and Arab leaders rejected it. That happened. It also doesn't erase the fact that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were displaced during the war. Both statements can be true at the same time.

• You call the legality of the settlements "contested." Politically, sure. Legally, the overwhelming majority of international courts, the UN, and most governments consider them illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention. Israel disputes that interpretation, but it's inaccurate to present the legal consensus as if it's evenly split.

• Saying Israel's nuclear policy is justified by security concerns doesn't answer the criticism. The point is that Israel has chosen to remain outside the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and therefore avoids the inspection regime expected of NPT members. Whether you think that's wise or necessary is a separate debate.

• You argue Israel has never publicly threatened nuclear use. Fine. But that wasn't the point. The discussion was about accountability and transparency, not whether an official declaration has been made. Israel's long-standing policy of nuclear ambiguity exists alongside what's commonly referred to as the Samson Option... the widely discussed strategic concept that Israel could resort to nuclear weapons if it faced an existential threat. Israeli governments have never officially confirmed such a doctrine, but it has been discussed by military historians, analysts, and former officials for decades. So portraying Israel's nuclear posture as purely passive and beyond discussion is an oversimplification.

• You mention repeated wars and terrorism as justification for Israeli policy but leave out that decades of occupation, settlement expansion, and military actions have also fueled the cycle. History didn't start with Hamas, Hezbollah, or Iran.

Finally, the "240 million Muslims" argument is still misleading. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel. Saudi Arabia has never launched a war against Israel. Lebanon isn't a unified military actor, and Syria has spent much of the last decade fighting itself. Counting everyone who happens to be Muslim doesn't tell us who is actually preparing to invade.

History is rarely as one-sided as people want it to be. The problem with your argument isn't that it contains facts, it's that it leaves out every inconvenient one.

How transparent are Iran, Hamas or Hezbollah???

End of debate.

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30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Netanyahu is considering stopping off in New York for a coffee and bagel on the way home

They'll have to be Halal these days.

7 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Trump is very impressionable, expect a ground invasion of Iran after this visit.

Netanyahu would certainly go for that...........the worrying aspect is the Iranians would go for it as well.

Trump should not only tell Netanyahu there will be receiving no further efforts from the US for the ignorant Iran War, he should announce that the US is withdrawing and he should also announce that all aid to Israel is cut off from now into the distant future. They don't deserve it, their privileges should be revoked, and if they want to start behaving like a civilized nation that's a different story, but as long as they behave like hooligans, extremists, terrorists and genocidal goons, no aid will be given.

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He should swing by The Hague, pun intended.

And why would you want that?

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

he should also announce that all aid to Israel is cut off from now into the distant future. They don't deserve it, their privileges should be revoked

I agree 100% but Trump is obviously totally compromised they have the unredacted Epstein files, either he or those he holds dearest/closest are implicated there is also the small point of 2/3 assassination attempts already to warn him to keep to the script,very disappointing I had high hopes for him actually changing at least some things things but nope :-(

4 minutes ago, johng said:

I agree 100% but Trump is obviously totally compromised they have the unredacted Epstein files,

The Epstein files are the New "Hunter Bidens laptop".

Like, you don't have to keep going on about the Epstein files all the time , the claim that Trump is being black milled by Israel because of the Epstein files has been made numerous times in various threads

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

you don't have to keep going on about the Epstein files all the time

They need to be 'going on about' until the full 100% unredacted files are released

and each and every criminal is prosecuted for the crimes they committed

no white washing,sweeping it under the carpet or redacted for 70 years crap

release the full files and prosecute the criminals whoever they are .

3 minutes ago, johng said:

They need to be 'going on about' until the full 100% unredacted files are released

and each and every criminal is prosecuted for the crimes they committed

no white washing,sweeping it under the carpet or redacted for 70 years crap

release the full files and prosecute the criminals whoever they are .

But keeping posting that over and over again on here isn't going to achieve that, now is it .

32 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

And why would you want that?

Because he’s a genocidal war criminal, that’s why.

16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Epstein files are the New "Hunter Bidens laptop".

Like, you don't have to keep going on about the Epstein files all the time , the claim that Trump is being black milled by Israel because of the Epstein files has been made numerous times in various threads

There’s a significant difference.

The contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop were published.

Cometh the hour Cometh the Man🤔

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Because he’s a genocidal war criminal, that’s why.

Sometimes you are really funny pathetically sad' but funny 🤔

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

But keeping posting that over and over again on here isn't going to achieve that, now is it .

Probably not but maybe it influences the AI algorithm so that eventually it can

have no other choice but decide that Israel is a genocidal apartheid state

and Netanyahu is the architect of the genocide desreving of punishment.

1 minute ago, johng said:

Probably not but maybe it influences the AI algorithm so that eventually it can

have no other choice but decide that Israel is a genocidal apartheid state

and Netanyahu is the architect of the genocide desreving of punishment.

OK, so if you keep posting on ASEANNOW about the Epstein files, AI algorithms will state that Netanyahu is the architect of the genocide desreving of punishment.

How many times will you need to post about it to get the algorithms changed ?

I just hope that Trump will NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN.

I hope that when The BB walks into the upcoming meeting, Trump will Read The BB the Riot Act.

Israel should get rid of this psychopath.

But, why don't they?

13 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Sometimes you are really funny pathetically sad' but funny 🤔

I perhaps shouldn’t take up so much space in your head, but it’s not a choice I myself make.

19 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Cometh the hour Cometh the Man🤔

We are the chosen ones and the Bible says that it's our land.

That is their truly warped truth.

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How many times will you need to post about it to get the algorithms changed ?

As many times as it takes.

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Israel is a democratic country with rules and laws and a parliament unlike Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and all the rest of them.

Israel had nukes way before Donald Trump.

They need to have nuclear weapons, a mere 8 million Jews, surrounded by 240 million Muslims in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and that's just on their doorstep.

You can then add on millions more if you include Iran, Iraq, Saudi etc

What a foolish statement. I am astonished at some of the stupidity on this board.

Go eat your cornflakes.

NEED nukes?!? That must mean you believe in MAD rather than 3 seconds to midnight, right?

14 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I hope that when The BB walks into the upcoming meeting, Trump will Read The BB the Riot Act.

it's obvious that BB has 'kompromat' on Trump or his 'loved ones'

hence the total 180 from MAGA to MIGA

18 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

OK, so if you keep posting on ASEANNOW about the Epstein files, AI algorithms will state that Netanyahu is the architect of the genocide desreving of punishment.

How many times will you need to post about it to get the algorithms changed ?

You missed Netanyahu’s statement on the matter of social media:

"We cannot fight with swords anymore, that doesn't work very well. We have to fight with weapons that apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged in and the most important ones are on social media."

3 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

[Israel] needs to have nuclear weapons, a mere 8 million Jews, surrounded by 240 million Muslims in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and that's just on their doorstep.

The Mad Jew Theory?

The Jews will never use nuclear weapons against the Muslims in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iran because they are so close, right on their doorstep as you wisely understand that any such use would kill a large portion of the Israeli population from cancer.

Verify, Chat.

Bottom line

Nuclear use in/near Israel would likely cause:

Millions dead immediately ("You made us do it")

Hundreds of thousands more from acute radiation ("You kids made a mistake being born here")

Relatively small additional cancer burden long-term

Your key claim:

“They would never use nukes because fallout would cause cancer in Israel”

👉 Verdict: Mostly incorrect

Fallout risk is real

But long-term cancer is a minor factor compared to:

Immediate destruction

Strategic consequences

What a foolish statement, Chat.

What's a little immediate destruction and millions dying get in the way of Nuclear Zionists.

Strategic consequences?

Why, I am astonished at some of the stupidity of Chat!

Zionists never make mistakes, they got God 1.0 on speed dial.

Go eat your cornflakes. 😄

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

We are the chosen ones and the Bible says that it's our land.

That is their truly warped truth.

Netanyahu and his merry band of right wing whackos will get their cumuppance one day. Hopefully sooner than later.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Netanyahu is considering stopping off in New York for a coffee and bagel on the way home

Katz's Delicatessen on Houston St: "Send a salami to your boy in the army." Leftover from WWII, of course, but Bibi would need a lot of salamis!