Tourist Visa

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I have a tourist visa which expires on Jan 17 could some body confirm that if I arrive on Jan 15 I would be OK to stay for another 60 days although the visa has expired

[WilliamIV]

I have a tourist visa which expires on Jan 17 could some body confirm that if I arrive on Jan 15 I would be OK to stay for another 60 days although the visa has expired

Basically yes ...

but it depends on what passport you hold

AND - Tourist Visas are normally valid for 3 months

- what exactly do you have?

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Basically yes ...

but it depends on what passport you hold

AND - Tourist Visas are normally valid for 3 months

- what exactly do you have?

I have a 3 entry 6 month tourist visa on a UK passport by then I would have used 2 entries hoping to use the 3rd entry to stay in Thailand till 1st week in March

[visarunner]

If you arrive on 15th of Jan you will be given 60day .

Upon expiry of these 60days you can extent at BKK Immigration for another 30days ,cost you THB 1,900.-

[naka]

Yea, date on visa is the enter by date (use by date)

Naka.

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Thank for the help that as put my mind at rest

[templedog]

Thank for the help that as put my mind at rest

Not so fast......the "enter before" date, or, "use by" date, was

interpreted differently by Thai Imm on my US passport.

I assumed the "enter before" date meant I had to enter the 1st time (1st entry)

before that date....and, that the 2nd entry was irrelevant to the "enter before" date, since I already "entered".

My "enter before" date was valid for 3 months from the time I applied for the visa.

So, here's what I did:

I applied and received a 60 day tourist visa with 2 entries on April 3 07, and it was valid for entry until Jul 2 07.

Meaning I could enter The Kingdom and stay

for 60 days, extend 30 days, exit ONCE, enter for another 60 days, extend again for 30 days,

totalling 6 months. All this should be done BEFORE the "expiry" date of the visa. Impossible!!! Why?

Because the "enter before" date had expired before my second entry can be attempted!!! Mistake? ###### straight.

So, what does that "enter before" "use by" date mean? EXACTLY my question to Thai imm. Futile.

I had a "enter before" date of July 2 07....I entered the Kingdom before that date the first entry,

then went for my extension, got it. Then I went to Cambodia on a visa run to collect another 60 days, (my second entry), (+ ext. later).

Only to discover that the "enter before" date was actually seen by Thai 's as an

expiry date of the visa. So, what happened? I only got a 30 day entry stamp.

Make sure your "enter before" or "use by" date is valid until past yourprojected second, third, or even fourth entry.....include all extensions!!! Otherwise, Thai Imm will tell you "NO GOOD"......"ALREADY EXPIRE".......good luck.

PS.....New York City Thai consulate ######ed me. They gave me 3 month "enter before" expiry, instead of a 6 month.

Lesson learned? ALWAYS CHECK before leaving. NEVER TRUST that they will do it right.

[templedog]

Yea, date on visa is the enter by date (use by date)

Naka.

Can someone help me figure this out without asking Thai Imm.??

I recently entered from VietNam with a "tourist visa" which I assumed was valid for

2 months plus the optional 30 day extension. 90 days, sound right?

Well upon arrival at the airport in Bangkok, I received a 90 day stamp......"admitted" Sep 02, "until" Nov 31st.

Does this mean I must use my ext. and leave before Nov 31st, or,

was it stamped incorrectly, giving me 90 days, plus my ext.?

Totalling 120 days? Hmmmmm.

[Crossy]

Can someone help me figure this out without asking Thai Imm.??

I recently entered from VietNam with a "tourist visa" which I assumed was valid for

2 months plus the optional 30 day extension. 90 days, sound right?

Well upon arrival at the airport in Bangkok, I received a 90 day stamp......"admitted" Sep 02, "until" Nov 31st.

Does this mean I must use my ext. and leave before Nov 31st, or,

was it stamped incorrectly, giving me 90 days, plus my ext.?

Totalling 120 days? Hmmmmm.

If you have a TV and have been stamped for 90 days this is incorrect. If you don't get it fixed and stay the full 90 days you'll be charged for 30 days overstay as you are only entitled to 60 (it is your responsibility to ensure the stamp is correct).

What is the 'visa class' shown on your visa?

Why would you not want to tell immigration?

Edited September 24, 2007 by Crossy

[templedog]

Can someone help me figure this out without asking Thai Imm.??

I recently entered from VietNam with a "tourist visa" which I assumed was valid for

2 months plus the optional 30 day extension. 90 days, sound right?

Well upon arrival at the airport in Bangkok, I received a 90 day stamp......"admitted" Sep 02, "until" Nov 31st.

Does this mean I must use my ext. and leave before Nov 31st, or,

was it stamped incorrectly, giving me 90 days, plus my ext.?

Totalling 120 days? Hmmmmm.

If you have a TV and have been stamped for 90 days this is incorrect. If you don't get it fixed and stay the full 90 days you'll be charged for 30 days overstay as you are only entitled to 60 (it is your responsibility to ensure the stamp is correct).

What is the 'visa class' shown on your visa?

Why would you not want to tell immigration?

I just noticed this today as I was perusing my Passport to inform the above about my travails here with Thai Imm.

Thank you for the tip, I will head down to Thai Imm. for my extension before the 60 day mark and inform them then,

but not sooner, as I don't need the added expense travelling to correct it now. Visa class? ( do you mean "type"?)

It is stamped as "Tourist" or did you mean the "Category" it is stamped "TR". Thanks again for the quick reply, greatly appreciated!!

PS....funny how their mistakes are our always our mistake....see my response to above.

[templedog]

Can someone help me figure this out without asking Thai Imm.??

I recently entered from VietNam with a "tourist visa" which I assumed was valid for

2 months plus the optional 30 day extension. 90 days, sound right?

Well upon arrival at the airport in Bangkok, I received a 90 day stamp......"admitted" Sep 02, "until" Nov 31st.

Does this mean I must use my ext. and leave before Nov 31st, or,

was it stamped incorrectly, giving me 90 days, plus my ext.?

Totalling 120 days? Hmmmmm.

If you have a TV and have been stamped for 90 days this is incorrect. If you don't get it fixed and stay the full 90 days you'll be charged for 30 days overstay as you are only entitled to 60 (it is your responsibility to ensure the stamp is correct).

What is the 'visa class' shown on your visa?

Why would you not want to tell immigration?

I just noticed this today as I was perusing my Passport to inform the above about my travails here with Thai Imm.

Thank you for the tip, I will head down to Thai Imm. for my extension before the 60 day mark and inform them then,

but not sooner, as I don't need the added expense travelling to correct it now. Visa class? ( do you mean "type"?)

It is stamped as "Tourist" or did you mean the "Category" it is stamped "TR". Thanks again for the quick reply, greatly appreciated!!

PS....funny how their mistakes are our always our mistake....see my response to above.

Actually, I thought I would get a little Karmic retribution for the last time I got screwed with the tourist visa....see above.

But, I guess not. Time for a beer Singha.

[lopburi3]

You did not get screwed on your tourist visa - your understanding was not correct. A use by date means any/all entries must be made by that date. The purpose of the two entry visa is not to let you stay for longer periods but allow people to travel and return without the need of a new visa. Any visa, be it tourist or one year multi entry non immigrant has the same rule - all entries before the expiration date.

[templedog]

You did not get screwed on your tourist visa - your understanding was not correct. A use by date means any/all entries must be made by that date. The purpose of the two entry visa is not to let you stay for longer periods but allow people to travel and return without the need of a new visa. Any visa, be it tourist or one year multi entry non immigrant has the same rule - all entries before the expiration date.

I had a two entry, 2 month, tourist visa out of the Thai Embassy in NYC, USA

with a 3 month expiry (enter before) date.

I never checked the expiry date, my fault,

because my friend had told me that I would get a 6 month window

to get 6 months of travelling out of my tourist visa,

since he has done it many times, although from LA, Cali.

Anyway, I thought I could get 6 months from this visa, but I couldn't,

and here is why:

Here was my plan:

Enter 1st time, get 30 day ext.

Enter 2nd time, get another 60 days, then 30 day ext. Totalling 6 months.

My understanding was that I needed to enter (both times) before the expiry date (enter before).

How is this possible with a 3 month expiry date? Not possible, unless you apply for your

visa the day before, or better, the day of your departure.

Or, simply leave Thailand prematurely, and re-enter (2nd entry) before the expiry date.

Since I applied for my visa 2 weeks before I left for Thailand, the visa expired

well before I could make the 2nd entry.

Unless, of course, the Thai's do not assume that you will be making a 30 day

extension on the first leg of your trip.....that is where I failed. That would give you ample time to

re-enter and gain your 60 days, being able to extend the 30 days ONLY on the 2nd leg of your trip.

Totalling roughly 5 months, or more.

That is what I understand now. Thank you kindly for your input!!