Ulysses G. Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 That might be the difference as I have never been to Germany. Maybe they are different from what we call German style. I have had cottage cheese cheese cakes that I loved, but it was American cottage cheese and doesn't sound like the type you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBKKK Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 That might be the difference as I have never been to Germany. Maybe they are different from what we call German style. I have had cottage cheese cheese cakes that I loved, but it was American cottage cheese and doesn't sound like the type you are talking about. If you look at the difference in recipies you can see that in the original German cheese cake, eggs and whipping cream are added and to get a more cheese flavor one can use some grated Gouda cheese as well ...... the German baked Cheese cake is more cake like than the US cream cheese cake which is really nothing but a cooky base with cream cheese mixed with whipped cream and lots of sugar - some gel added and once it has set in the fridge some fruit added to the top - a slice of sweet bread with Philadelfia cream cheese and some Jam on top is about the same which I must admit I like and have myself for dinner occasionally, especially when we have been making tons of sausages all day long ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathyy Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 The "sweet glop" of which you speak is not cheesecake at all, but cream cheese pie. Cheesecake is the drier, lighter baked New York version. Perhaps a dozen or so Americans actually know they are different things. I have never experienced the German cheesecake, which seems to be something entirely different as it isn't even based on cream cheese. It sure sounds delicious, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBKKK Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) I'm going to make some this coming week in form of smallish cakes for chfsxp and parts thereof we will offer as dersert at the Bistro This one is actually inbetween the cream cheese cakes and the German version - its not baked but lighter yet creamier - The German name is: Kaesesahne which can also be different by region - This one is based on philladelfia cream cheese blended with smooth German cottage cheese and whipped cream on a cookie base which is first covered in dark cherries in a rum gellee- John p.s. warning - highly addictive Edited September 21, 2008 by JohnBKKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) The "sweet glop" of which you speak is not cheesecake at all, but cream cheese pie. Cheesecake is the drier, lighter baked New York version. Perhaps a dozen or so Americans actually know they are different things. Both are refered to as "cheesecake", although I've never been sure why. I'll take creamy "sweet glop" over a New York Cheesecake any time. I love them. I find N.Y. cheesecakes to be too heavy, dry and not all that tasty and I have noticed that many other people don't enjoy them. I'm hoping that I get to try John's German cheesecake if I visit Bangkok next week, but am not sure that all the political and transport problems are over. Edited September 21, 2008 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groongthep Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) This is what I normally think of as New York style cheeesecake. And this is what I think cathyy was calling cream cheese pie. Both good but two different things. Edited September 21, 2008 by Groongthep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathyy Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Yep, that's them. It doesn't matter how light/heavy the one is compared to the other; the recipes differ dramatically. I too prefer cheese pie, quite honestly, and that's after having had genuine New York cheesecake in New York. Now, the Pizza in New York...that's the only place in the world I could eat a plain cheese pizza and be happy. It's simply so far superior to other pizza, including the famous stuff in Chicago, which I have eaten at one of the famous places. Nasty stuff, Chicago deep dish pizza. But back to cream cheese pie, with a nice cherry topping, preferably fresh fruit and not canned pie filling. Jello darn near ruined the genre with their instant cheese pie mixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdongrb Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I dug up one of the pics I took years ago of a raspberry cheesecake that I made. This an individual serving, mind you. Please make no comments regarding the presentation as I cook/bake for the taste as that is what matters to me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBKKK Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 (edited) Made our cheese cake today - it's inbetween the two you have shown above - and its moist, melts on your tounge and is full of flavor i decided not to make a base to it, what you get is 100% cheese cake with raisons it was still warm when I took the picture .. just couldn't wait to eat a slice Edited September 26, 2008 by JohnBKKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Looks like, "sweet glop" style to me. I LOVE the stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBKKK Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 (edited) Looks like, "sweet glop" style to me. I LOVE the stuff! Well, you could call it that, it is after all a mixture of cream cheese quark and cream and heavenly moist - but it was still very warm and soft at the time when I cut it and took the picture -have now replaced it with one I took just a few minutes ago - now it has already firmed up more and - you have no idea how much willpower it is taking me to keep my fingers off it tonight by the way, that picture of the new york style further up is either a plastic replica (they make those for window display's) or someone used a laser to cut it - there is no way you achieve such a clean raisor straight cut with not even a molecule of distortion naturally Edited September 26, 2008 by JohnBKKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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