Im just slow

Good point, Tiggs. Many do not come into Bedlam and many of those who do wander in do not remain. It will be a long wait to get even 5%. It would be more realistic to look at a number of persuasion as being a number that is in excess of the original numbers voting for splitting of the room.

I'm not particularly fussed (as I said before), but would gravitate towards them being reintegrated (for the reasons already expressed by a number of posters).

In relation to the mods, and at risk of a circular argument, I was expressing surprise that not one single mod, in his or her capacity as a general member, has contributed to the debate. It has nothing to do with achieving a certain amount of responses before they decide to contribute. I surmise that the matter has been raised in the mods' room. I could be wrong. Nonetheless, I repeat; it is a pity, because many of them figure amongst the longest established members of Bedlam and their contributions to the discussion would be useful.

Actually, no, it hasn't been under discussion. Sorry

Out of the box was created at the request of Bedlam members as a place to keep the serious stuff separate from the silly stuff. If I recall, the complaint was that serious discussions got pushed out by the silly stuff and got lost in the forum.

As for my opinion, well, I see the sense of the original reason for the creation of a separate subforum.

Looks like the poll is evenly split...

I haven't voted because I fit firmly into the "I don't really care" category. I never really venture into the "outside" as I don't really frequent Thai Visa for serious discussion (unless it is about Thai food, a subject which usually extracts some passion from me). I do enjoy discussion of more weighty matters but I tend to do that in a face to face manner.