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This should be in news

I Posted it under the 1-2 Go banned in EU thread but this is too important so I'll post it again here

<h1 class="title">Latest: Phuket Airport Flight Crash Report Released</h1> By Phuketwan Reporters

Monday, June 1, 2009 THE results of the investigation into the One-Two-Go crash of Flight OG269 at Phuket Airport in 2007 were released today, listing six causes for the tragedy.

The report also made three sets of recommendations, one for the airline, one for Airports of Thailand, and one for the Department of Transport.

The One-Two-Go MD 82 aircraft on a scheduled flight from Bangkok crashed on landing on Phuket early on the evening of September 16, 2007, with the deaths of 90 passengers and crew.

Another 40 survived, many with severe injuries or burns.

As has been suggested, the results of the investigation appear to confirm that the pilot froze at the controls at a time when he needed to react to bad weather conditions.

The pilot did not following standard operation procedure for going around; he failed to hit the go-around button; he failed to respond to control alerts; co-ordination between the pilot and the co-pilot broke down; both pilots failed to react to the emergency.

The summary of the results also make the point that the pilots were suffering from an accumulation of stress and fatigue.

The airline, One-Two-Go, was advised to more closely review training procedures (cockpit resource management) and flight operations.

Limitations should be placed on the flight hours of the pilots and the aircraft;

[ There are, the rules were simply ignored ] a safety management system (SMS) needs to be created.

Executives at all levels needed to set values in a corporate culture for following rules and regulations and report unusual developments.

Airports of Thailand was advised to provide a safety management system; Runways needed to be wider and safer; specific recommendations were made to improve the ability of rescue vehicles to move around Phuket International Airport.

The Department of Transportation was advised to make more thorough checks on One-Two-Go and its parent Orient Thai Airlines; coordination with the Bureau of Meteorology needed to be improved.

Release of the report came online at www.aviation.go.th with the Thai version released first. An English version is expected to be released shortly.

This article has been compiled from a translation of the Thai version which we will update as soon as more information becomes available.

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So who will be idicted for breaking the law ( fraudulent pilot hour logs and non existent checkrides) and held responsible for 90 deaths?

Indict UDOM NOW !!

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There has been an issue over the failure of the authorities to release this report having promised they would do so.

There has been an even bigger issue over alleged collusion between senior officials in The Thai Civil Aviation Authority and owners of 1-2-Go conspiring to whitewash this investigation and cover up important facts.

I believe no compensation to the injured and families of victims has been paid yet.

Posted

Can anyone make the site at www.aviation.go.th work? I'm interested if they're released the full text of the NTSB report or a 'fettled' version for Thai consumption.

Briggsy. A close friend (Thai) who was seriously injured (her farang husband died) has received monetary compensation for HER injuries. Not a bean for her hubby as yet :)

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That is the most appallingly unprofessional 'accident report' that I have ever read (and I have read many over the years).

It gives a woefully incomplete description of the flight, no description of how the investigation was carried out, and suddenly a list of safety recommendations with no explanation as to why they are being made.

Had the investigation been conducted by, for example, the US National transportation Safety Board; there would have been loads of detail about the events leading up to the accident, the serviceability or otherwise of the aircraft, crew qualifications, crew rest, company safety culture, and so on.

No doubt readers can draw their own conclusions.

Posted
That is the most appallingly unprofessional 'accident report' that I have ever read (and I have read many over the years).

It gives a woefully incomplete description of the flight, no description of how the investigation was carried out, and suddenly a list of safety recommendations with no explanation as to why they are being made.

Had the investigation been conducted by, for example, the US National transportation Safety Board; there would have been loads of detail about the events leading up to the accident, the serviceability or otherwise of the aircraft, crew qualifications, crew rest, company safety culture, and so on.

No doubt readers can draw their own conclusions.

I'm glad you asked. Actually, the NTSB did conduct the investigation because the aircraft was a Boeing. They also ghost wrote the report (not that summary, obviously) for the Thai government. That report becomes available on September 16, 2009 (after 2 years). It will be posted.

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A close look at an earlier Thai Airways crash, Surathani 1998, will show some sobering similarities.

Similar weather, similar pilot error, similar death toll. And, of course, nearly identical stonewalling and denials by airline bosses and Thai authorities.

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A close look at an earlier Thai Airways crash, Surathani 1998, will show some sobering similarities.

The Kingdom of Thailand does not seem release crash reports or any factual, verifiable, information. Of course, this means no one can learn from previous mistakes and they are doomed to be recreated.

In the case of OG269 case, the families and the professional piloting community have uncovered all of the proof and truth put forward. This incomplete summary report - produced only in Thai - was provided in response to significant pressure from the international community. We look forward to providing more truth with the NTSB report in September.

Posted
A close look at an earlier Thai Airways crash, Surathani 1998, will show some sobering similarities.

The Kingdom of Thailand does not seem release crash reports or any factual, verifiable, information. Of course, this means no one can learn from previous mistakes and they are doomed to be recreated.

In the case of OG269 case, the families and the professional piloting community have uncovered all of the proof and truth put forward. This incomplete summary report - produced only in Thai - was provided in response to significant pressure from the international community. We look forward to providing more truth with the NTSB report in September.

The wording, or at least the translation makes it appaear as if safety standards NEED to be adopted, in fact they were there the whole time but were ignored.

This is illegal and resulted in deaths and injury

Indictments were promised last July against the company, where are they?

Posted

Save face, not lives.

Let's keep those priorities straight...

Oh yes, let's not scare the tourists more either.

He who doesn't PUBLICLY learn from the past,

doesn't have to admit to mistakes in the past.

  • 5 months later...
Posted (edited)

As you might imagine, the NTSB report is a highly professional document, in stark contrast to the Thai DCA report.

The NTSB asks all the right questions which, by implication, point to the various causes of the accident. It also reproduces a letter received from a concerned insider at 1-2-Go pointing out that a training captain who was away on leave at the time had nonetheless managed to sign off four pilots' simulator check rides as OK.

If you have the time, I strongly recommend reading this report. You can skip the investigation of aircraft systems - they were all working properly.

Edited for punctuation

Edited by colinscarr
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Page 17, 42710.pdf (my emphasis):

D. OPERATIONAL AND HUMAN PERFORMANCE:

The systems investigation revealed that all airplane systems functioned as

designed and that the airplane remained controllable during the approach and

intended go-around. Because the pilots did not properly perform the go-around

procedure or identify that the power was reduced during the go-around, the

decisions and actions of the pilots should be further addressed by the AAIC.

<snip>

Posted

It will all come out in the wash when the case against the airline from US litigators comes to trial (in the US), damning evidence which will result in multi million dollar payouts, bankrupting the airline and still the authorities here will be pretending nothing was wrong. It's like the current case against the Greens for bribing the TAT governor, they've been found guilty and still there's been no move at all in Thailand to indict Jutamas - TIT (have to agree a bit with Hun Sen about our justice system, though it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black).

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