Double Entry Tourist Visa: How Many Days Between First And Second Entry?

[aless]

Hello,

Sorry if this has been answered already somewhere, but I couldn't find any up to date information.

I have a double entry tourist visa, it was issued on the 3rd of August 2009. My first entry expires on the 13th of October, I was thinking of doing a bit of travelling before entering Thailand for the second time (let's say a couple of months), my questions are:

- Is there a limit to the number of days one can stay out of the country before using the second entry of the visa?

- On my visa is stamped: "Enter before: 2 Nov 2009", does this date refer to the second entry too, or is it only for the first entry?

- Would the time I can stay out of the country before entering for the second time be affected if I decide to extend the first entry for one month?

Thanks for your help,

ale

[Mario2008]

You can stay as long away after your first entry as you like, be it 5 minutes or 5 days.

However you must use the second entry before 2 Nov. 2009, otherwise you can't make use of it anymore.

If you only use 1 month, you lose the rest of your days. The are not counted up with the second entry. however, on both your entries you can appply for a 30 day extension for 1,900 baht. making t 90 days instead of 60.

[ubonjoe]

You can leave for as long as you want to but you must enter the country before the 2nd of November to use the 2nd entry.

There is no limit to the amount of time you can spend out of the country for any reason other than the visas enter before date.

[aless]

Thanks for the answers.

So, is a double entry tourist visa valid only for three months? It was issued on the 3rd of Aug, you must use both entries before the 3rd of Nov.

What if I extend my first entry for one month? Then I should leave the country by the 12th of Nov, already past the expiration date of the visa. Am I not allowed to use the second entry of the visa anymore then?

I thought you had three months before the first entry, as with some visas for other countries. For example, I can apply for a thai visa in Laos today, then travel around for three months, and enter Thailand for the first time before the "Use before" date stamped on the visa.

[ubonjoe]

You would have to leave and re-enter before the 2nd of November or you would not be able to use the 2nd entry.

That date does not change for any reason.

[aless]

Ok, thanks for the info. I'll have to shorten my trip then, or get another visa. Oh, and just to state the obvious, I guess Enter before Nov 2, means the last day I can enter Thailand with this visa is the 1st of Nov.

[thaiphoon]

Ok, thanks for the info. I'll have to shorten my trip then, or get another visa. Oh, and just to state the obvious, I guess Enter before Nov 2, means the last day I can enter Thailand with this visa is the 1st of Nov.

Correct.

[Thaidupudon]

You can stay as long away after your first entry as you like, be it 5 minutes or 5 days.

However you must use the second entry before 2 Nov. 2009, otherwise you can't make use of it anymore.

If you only use 1 month, you lose the rest of your days. The are not counted up with the second entry. however, on both your entries you can apply for a 30 day extension for 1,900 baht. making t 90 days instead of 60.

I just used my 60 day/double entry tourist visa on the Laos end.

After the 60 days all one needs to do is a u-turn at the border after applying for the Laos Visa upon arrival @35USD. This will give a total of 90 days on the double entry tourists visa.

Paying the 1900 baht for extension is not necessary, nor does it work to any advantage.

After the double entry has expired in total of 90 days, the Nong Kai immigration office will only extend tourist visa's of both single and double for only 7days total @ 1900 baht. They will advise that it''s less expensive to simply cross the border do a u-turn and get a 15 day extension, or enter your application at the Embassy for the new visa.

When you re-enter Thailand in Nong Kai, you must indicate to the immigration officer that you have a double entry, printed at the top of your visa, or he/she will simply not see it and process for only a 15 day extension.

Also, so both party's don't forget, make sure you enter your original Thai Tourist Visa number on the Thai arrival card when re-entering. This way the Immigration Officer is sure to see that you in fact have a double entry.

So, after the total of 90 days, just re-enter Laos early morning, Pay the 35USD upon arrival Laos Visa, submit application for another double entry @ the Tha Embassy in Vientiane before 12 noon, of which is free, no charge till March 2010, take receipt, stay @ a hotel of your choice, then pick up the following day after 1pm, then go home.

1 day stay, or longer, as Vientiane has a lot to offer and see, if ya know where to go. I highly recommend wine tasting at the local cellars near the city fountain and dining out by the outdoor eateries along the Mekong River. Awesome eats, especially the very large marinated BBQ shrimp, 1st establishment on the river bank facing all the bars and clubs. The French Restaurant across the fountain, also has an excellent menu, and superb selections of wines to suit anybody's taste or budget.

I just wanted to make this very clear to others as this info is not available on any forum that I could find. I spent a total of 5 minutes at the Thai side border exit office, to clarify and saved myself a lot of time and a tiny amount of cash.

I hope this helps.

[Mario2008]

I just used my 60 day/double entry tourist visa on the Laos end.

After the 60 days all one needs to do is a u-turn at the border after applying for the Laos Visa upon arrival @35USD. This will give a total of 90 days on the double entry tourists visa.

Paying the 1900 baht for extension is not necessary, nor does it work to any advantage.

After the double entry has expired in total of 90 days, the Nong Kai immigration office will only extend tourist visa's of both single and double for only 7days total @ 1900 baht. They will advise that it''s less expensive to simply cross the border do a u-turn and get a 15 day extension, or enter your application at the Embassy for the new visa.

You post information that is totaly wrong and confusing other. You cannot get a 30 day extension by just doing a u-turn at the border. You can only extend your stay at an immigation office, filling in the form and paying 1,900 baht.

If you do a U turn at the border you will only be allowed to enter using your second 60 day entry.

[Thaidupudon]

I just used my 60 day/double entry tourist visa on the Laos end.

After the 60 days all one needs to do is a u-turn at the border after applying for the Laos Visa upon arrival @35USD. This will give a total of 90 days on the double entry tourists visa.

Paying the 1900 baht for extension is not necessary, nor does it work to any advantage.

After the double entry has expired in total of 90 days, the Nong Kai immigration office will only extend tourist visa's of both single and double for only 7days total @ 1900 baht. They will advise that it''s less expensive to simply cross the border do a u-turn and get a 15 day extension, or enter your application at the Embassy for the new visa.

You post information that is totaly wrong and confusing other. You cannot get a 30 day extension by just doing a u-turn at the border. You can only extend your stay at an immigation office, filling in the form and paying 1,900 baht.

If you do a U turn at the border you will only be allowed to enter using your second 60 day entry.

I do see how this can sound confusing. My apologies, so let me re-phrase. Extension is probably the incorrect word, but my info is correct as I just did this yesterday so this is through yesterdays experience.. My 60 days was up and expired. I did the U-Turn and was granted a 30 day stamp of which is a type of extension.

So in total on the double entry tourists every body gets a total of 90 days without ever having to pay the 1900 baht. I did this on Saturday and Immigration in Nong Kai is closed.

I am not totally wrong at all, as I just did this. So any way, I got my extra 30 days and that's how it was for me, and stamped in my passport. All I did was ask, and that is that. I did not have to go to immigration and pay 1900 baht, or file for any extension.

This is why I am posting this information, because all the other forums only provide misinformation, or most of the time incorrect information.

So much for trying to help others out.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

I have no idea what you got or thought you got, but Mario's advice is absolutely correct. 1900 baht extension fee and no need for you to leave the country. Good luck with it.

[thaiphoon]

I just used my 60 day/double entry tourist visa on the Laos end.

After the 60 days all one needs to do is a u-turn at the border after applying for the Laos Visa upon arrival @35USD. This will give a total of 90 days on the double entry tourists visa.

Paying the 1900 baht for extension is not necessary, nor does it work to any advantage.

After the double entry has expired in total of 90 days, the Nong Kai immigration office will only extend tourist visa's of both single and double for only 7days total @ 1900 baht. They will advise that it''s less expensive to simply cross the border do a u-turn and get a 15 day extension, or enter your application at the Embassy for the new visa.

You post information that is totaly wrong and confusing other. You cannot get a 30 day extension by just doing a u-turn at the border. You can only extend your stay at an immigation office, filling in the form and paying 1,900 baht.

If you do a U turn at the border you will only be allowed to enter using your second 60 day entry.

I'm with Mario on this one. He is correct. Perhaps the Op can post scans of his exit/entry stamps if this really is true.

[Mario2008]

I just used my 60 day/double entry tourist visa on the Laos end.

After the 60 days all one needs to do is a u-turn at the border after applying for the Laos Visa upon arrival @35USD. This will give a total of 90 days on the double entry tourists visa.

Paying the 1900 baht for extension is not necessary, nor does it work to any advantage.

After the double entry has expired in total of 90 days, the Nong Kai immigration office will only extend tourist visa's of both single and double for only 7days total @ 1900 baht. They will advise that it''s less expensive to simply cross the border do a u-turn and get a 15 day extension, or enter your application at the Embassy for the new visa.

You post information that is totaly wrong and confusing other. You cannot get a 30 day extension by just doing a u-turn at the border. You can only extend your stay at an immigation office, filling in the form and paying 1,900 baht.

If you do a U turn at the border you will only be allowed to enter using your second 60 day entry.

I do see how this can sound confusing. My apologies, so let me re-phrase. Extension is probably the incorrect word, but my info is correct as I just did this yesterday so this is through yesterdays experience.. My 60 days was up and expired. I did the U-Turn and was granted a 30 day stamp of which is a type of extension.

So in total on the double entry tourists every body gets a total of 90 days without ever having to pay the 1900 baht. I did this on Saturday and Immigration in Nong Kai is closed.

I am not totally wrong at all, as I just did this. So any way, I got my extra 30 days and that's how it was for me, and stamped in my passport. All I did was ask, and that is that. I did not have to go to immigration and pay 1900 baht, or file for any extension.

This is why I am posting this information, because all the other forums only provide misinformation, or most of the time incorrect information.

So much for trying to help others out.

Your post is being questioned as it contradicts the known reguations and practise. Posting a scan of your stamps will clearify things.

[lopburi3]

Did you by any chance enter and get 30 days on first entry? Then extend for 30 days; paying 1,900 baht? Then exit and get a new 30 days for second entry? Most passports would not be treated this way but you did not mention nationality.

That is the only way I can see you getting a 30 day entry if done by land unless you are Malaysian and using that border.

As asked; a scan of your stamps might help us figure it out; and possibility help you if there is any abnormalities.

[Lite Beer]

ํYes. We need to see the Passport scan as something is very much amiss.

The information given is totally wrong.

[Thaidupudon]

I just used my 60 day/double entry tourist visa on the Laos end.

After the 60 days all one needs to do is a u-turn at the border after applying for the Laos Visa upon arrival @35USD. This will give a total of 90 days on the double entry tourists visa.

Paying the 1900 baht for extension is not necessary, nor does it work to any advantage.

After the double entry has expired in total of 90 days, the Nong Kai immigration office will only extend tourist visa's of both single and double for only 7days total @ 1900 baht. They will advise that it''s less expensive to simply cross the border do a u-turn and get a 15 day extension, or enter your application at the Embassy for the new visa.

You post information that is totaly wrong and confusing other. You cannot get a 30 day extension by just doing a u-turn at the border. You can only extend your stay at an immigation office, filling in the form and paying 1,900 baht.

If you do a U turn at the border you will only be allowed to enter using your second 60 day entry.

I'm with Mario on this one. He is correct. Perhaps the Op can post scans of his exit/entry stamps if this really is true.

The 1st photo is the visa, passport stamp, then Departure card stamp. I can post larger photos if needed. So, you should notice the Visa expires 13 Nov, and in total I have nearly a couple months added. There were no lines yesterday, and the other tourists ahead of me received the exact same stamps, and same double entry Visa.

Prior to this I was only on single entry Tourists doing the U-Turn and getting 30 days each time.

This will be a moot point as my work permit and Thai ID card have been approved via my company in Bangkok. This is my last tourist type visa.

Anyway, if I have given the incorrect info I very much apologize for all the confusion. I also type faster than I can think. Mods feel free to edit or delete my OP. I was trying to get answers on all this visa stuff, and from others that passed me info, has always been contradictory at best.

[thaiphoon]

It looks to me like you have been given a 60 day entry using the 2nd entry of your double entry tourist visa, as your tourist visa has been marked as "Used" (Finished) and stamped 12th September. The re-entry stamp is also marked "TR" indicating use of tourist visa.

[Lite Beer]

To me it looks like you left the country and returned thus using your second entry.

Your Visa is now used. You could have extended your first 60 days at Immigration for a further 30 days.

You can still extend your current stay at Immigration.

It just means you could have got a longer stay by extending at Immigration.

[lopburi3]

I can not view the second photo but the first clearly shows you have used both your entries. If you received 60 days on your 15 July entry you should have received the same 60 days yesterday (not 30 days). If you received 30 days on first entry and then extended for 30 days it would be correct to receive 30 days yesterday (as your second visa entry of 30 days).

[Lite Beer]

Yes. He got 60 days.

[Thaidupudon]

To me it looks like you left the country and returned thus using your second entry.

Your Visa is now used. You could have extended your first 60 days at Immigration for a further 30 days.

You can still extend your current stay at Immigration.

It just means you could have got a longer stay by extending.

Yes, but because of my travel schedule, and this particular time the visa expired on a Saturday, so there was no open immigration office to go to. Regardless of my situation I still ended with 30 days atop the expiration, and still not a bad visa for 120 days in total. May last trip was a week day on a single tourists and immigration only offered me a 7 day extension for 1900Baht and advised me to cross the bridge get a free Visa at the Embassy at zero cost. I was just hoping this info can help others.

[lopburi3]

Finally got it to load. So poster used a two entry visa for two entries without extensions of stay. Total time about 120 days. If extensions were used it could have been almost 180 days. But he has not need for the extra time; and close to border so not using the extensions of stay was no loss. But now needs a non immigrant for work permit to be issued so will probably not be using much of the second 60 day stay.

Chapter Two - Work permit and Thai ID card has been approved. What "Thai ID card" are you talking about? And if you had applied for a work permit why did you not visit Vientiane to obtain a non immigrant visa so it can be issued? Or are you still waiting for the receipt for the work permit application?

[ubonjoe]

You could of gotten almost 6 months out of your visa.

Forget the expiration date of your visa once you are in the country it means nothing.

The permit to stay (admit until date on stamp) date is what counts. You can go to immigration before you permit to stay ends and get a 30 day extension from the date of your permit to stay. You do not have to do it on that date.

The only time your have to worry about your visa expiring is when you want to use the 2nd entry of your visa. You must use the entry before that date.

[Maestro]

There are photos of some stamps in Thaidupudon’s passport missing, marked below in red, to be able to reconstruct his travel history accurately, so the following is only a guess:

14 JUL 2009 (photo) issue date of double-entry tourist visa, valid until 13 OCT 2009

15 JUL 2009 using 1st entry of double-entry tourist visa (no photo of entry stamp but the date stamp on the visa confirms it), permission to stay until 13 AUG 2009

13 AUG 2009 exit Thailand (no photo of exit stamp), get visa on arrival for Laos, exit Laos

13 AUG 2009 visa-exempt entry into Thailand (no photo of entry stamp), permission to stay until 11 SEP 2009

11 SEP 2009 exit Thailand (no photo of exit stamp), get visa on arrival for Laos, exit Laos

12 SEP 2009 (photo) using 2nd entry of double-entry tourist visa, permission to stay until 10 NOV 2009

Thaidupudon, were those your entry and exit dates for Thailand?

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Maestro

[Thaidupudon]

There are photos of some stamps in Thaidupudon's passport missing, marked below in red, to be able to reconstruct his travel history accurately, so the following is only a guess:

14 JUL 2009 (photo) issue date of double-entry tourist visa, valid until 13 OCT 2009

15 JUL 2009 using 1st entry of double-entry tourist visa (no photo of entry stamp but the date stamp on the visa confirms it), permission to stay until 13 AUG 2009

13 AUG 2009 exit Thailand (no photo of exit stamp), get visa on arrival for Laos, exit Laos

13 AUG 2009 visa-exempt entry into Thailand (no photo of entry stamp), permission to stay until 11 SEP 2009

11 SEP 2009 exit Thailand (no photo of exit stamp), get visa on arrival for Laos, exit Laos

12 SEP 2009 (photo) using 2nd entry of double-entry tourist visa, permission to stay until 10 NOV 2009

Thaidupudon, were those your entry and exit dates for Thailand?

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Maestro

Actually there is 12 September exit that I can post plus Laos Visa upon arrival, but I'll have to scan again, but it should be obvious that I exited the same day to do my u-turn at the Thai Laos border. It's impossible to re-enter this country without exiting 1st, unless your maybe a skilled Burmese border jumper. I'm not and don't care for hot lead in my backside.

As far as the 13 Aug 2009 bit, there are no stamps, because this was a 60 day double entry admitted until Sep 12 2009, but expires 13 Oct.

Also, if someone else can clear this up, and it's even posted on this site for the tourist visas, it does state under Extension of stay " The extension of stay as well as the change of certain type of visa is solely at the discretion of the Immigration officer." I'm guessing this may also mean office, but not sure. The English seems more Thaiglish to me.

Maybe other Immigration Offices honor the 1900 baht 30 day extension, but I've yet to see it up here, but then again I have had a tight schedule and had to deal my cards in hand on a weekend.

Unless something changed before this past Saturday, Nong Kai immigration does not honer the 30 day extension on the tourists visa. This is part of the main point of my OP. I know for a fact this to be true on the single entry tourist because I have taken 2 others with this type, and we were told 7 days only. The last guy I helped had the 60 day double entry and was told the same thing. I then lead him to the border to do his u-turn. The office is about 1/4 mile or so before the border exit.

Normally as, in the past, I always stop at the Immigration Office 1st, to see if there any new Visa rules, but as I stated in prior posts, I could not visit the office, as it simply was the weekend.

I understand the need for proper information, and this is what I am trying to provide via my recent experience. This was always frustrating in the past as I read this forum for what I hope is accurate info. It is not always accurate, I don't believe it's faulty, just not up to date, as Thai rules change every day. TIT.

I do have time to post good worthwhile info, but I have zero time to post faulty inaccurate info just for kicks, when I could be with gorgeous women and having an ice cold beer.

Wow, you guys are good at making a 1st time poster work!! That's a good thing though.

[Lite Beer]

NongKhai do issue 30 day extensions on Tourist Visas. You do not have to wait until the last day. Go a few days early.

[Maestro]

Thaidupudon, I made a mistake in my guess of your travel history. Here is the corrected one:

14 JUL 2009 (photo) issue date of double-entry tourist visa, valid until 13 OCT 2009

15 JUL 2009 using 1st entry of double-entry tourist visa (no photo of entry stamp but the date stamp on the visa confirms it), permission to stay until 12 SEP 2009

12 SEP 2009 exit Thailand (no photo of exit stamp), get visa on arrival for Laos, exit Laos

12 SEP 2009 (photo) using 2nd entry of double-entry tourist visa, permission to stay until 10 NOV 2009

I just used my 60 day/double entry tourist visa on the Laos end.

After the 60 days all one needs to do is a u-turn at the border after applying for the Laos Visa upon arrival @35USD. This will give a total of 90 days on the double entry tourists visa.

Paying the 1900 baht for extension is not necessary, nor does it work to any advantage...

Without extensions of stay, you are not getting 90 days out of your double-entry tourist visa but 120 days. Puzzle solved.

Those people who pay 1,900 Baht each for two extensions of 30 days each get 180 days out of a double-entry tourist visa. I believe you were trying to say that it is not necessary to spend money for the extensions, just go to the Vientiane consulate again after 120 days and get a new double-entry tourist visa. This is of course an alternative, but it may cost more in the long run. It probably depends on how close you live to the border for activating the second entry of your double-entry visas and for getting a new visa from the Vientiane consulate.

If you plan to stay not more than a total of 120 days in Thailand for the purpose of tourism, no extension at all is necessary, just one border run. Regarding the possibility of using back-to-back tourist visas to stay in Thailand longer, please see this topic: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Crackdown-To...at-t297046.html

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Maestro