Pad Rally To Demand Govt Rid Disputed Territory Near Temple Of Cambodians

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RALLY AT PREAH VIHEAR TEMPLE

Thais planning to rally warned

By Rasmei Kampuchea

Asia News Network

Cambodia warns on Tuesday over yellow shirted rally which planned to rally near Hindu-shrined Preah Vihear Temple on September 19.

Chum Socheat, spokesman of Cambodia's National defense ministry told Rasmei Kampuchea newspaper on Tuesday that Cambodia will certainly take action if the yellow-shirted protesters enter into Cambodian territory illegally, said Cambodian officials.

"Cambodian soldiers will allow none of Thais to step into the Cambodian territory," Chum Socheat told Rasmei Kampuchea newspaper on Tuesday.

The Thai protesters announced recently that they would hold a rally to demand the Khmers and the soldiers to withdraw from what they called the overlapping zone near the ancient temple.

"The Thai people can do whatever they want in their territory, but they must not enter into the Cambodian soil. Our commanders at front line will not allow them to cross the border", said the spokesman.

On July 15, 2008, Thai monks and nuns crossed the border into the Cambodian soil near the temple. They were arrested and freed after negotiation with the Thai soldiers.

Meanwhile Koy Kuong, spokesman at Cambodia's Foreign Ministry said that the Thai extremist group should know that even the Thai government does not support them. He added that Thai government had tried to explain to the Thais that peaceful means will settle the border dispute and that Thailand will not loss any of land in the negotiation.

-- The Nation 2009/09/15

[Plus]

Sounds reasonable, until you realize that there's a whole issue of where that Cambodian territory start - PAD wants the Thai army to remove Cambodian villagers from the disputed territory, Cambodians threaten to start shooting if anyone steps there.

[animatic]

The only saving grace is they won't be mixing it up with the reds that day.

Other wise it's a bordelle.

[toptuan]

Well, let's see: PAD has already braved all of Thailand's military/political might by taking over the national airport for weeks on end. Perhaps they think now that an ancient temple would be no sweat. Overconfidence?

[animatic]

Or just slight of hand to avoid blame for Red Rally going amok....

[apetley]

Sounds reasonable, until you realize that there's a whole issue of where that Cambodian territory start - PAD wants the Thai army to remove Cambodian villagers from the disputed territory, Cambodians threaten to start shooting if anyone steps there.

Much the same as the Thai army shooting the two Cambodian teenagers then.

[Thai at Heart]

Lets hope everyone gets a very clearly defined map.

I can just see it now, caps on, everyone furiously fanning themselves and mopping their fevered brows, stepping through the mud on tip toe in white trainers, with designated flag wavers leading the way and ASTV in tow.

I hope to the heavens above that no one plants a flag.

[baht&sold]

PAD should stand down and shut the hel_l up. End of.

[aussiejosh]

Idiots the lot of them, just hope that it doesn't escalate too far.

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Police amassing numbers in preparation for PAD rally at Preah Vihear

SI SA KET, 16 September 2009 (NNT) - The Provincial Police Region 3 Commander has dispatched riot police and crowd control officers to deter members of the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) from rallying in the controversial overlapping area on the Thai-Cambodia border.

Police Region 3 Commander Police Lieutenant General Krisada Punkongchuen has gathered over 200 police officers from Si Sa Ket and adjoining provinces to meet with members of the PAD who have made plans to travel to protest in the 4.6-kilometer stretch of the Thai-Cambodian border near the Preah Vihear temple. Police have made known to the public that the area is off limits and has been deemed dangerous to the general public.

The PAD have planned a mass rally to move onto the site for tomorrow, prompting police to have to beef up their numbers as the area is currently being overseen only by Suranaree forces. Police Lieutenant General Krisada said that he did not expect any violence during authorities' interception of the group but had asked nearby police offices to get ready for assistance.

-- NNT 2009/09/16

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RALLY AT PREAH VIHEAR TEMPLE

Police to be mobilised near the temple

By The Nation

Hundreds of police will be mobilised near Preah Vihear Temple to prepare for the yellow shirted protesters who are scheduled to rally there on Saturday.

Pol Lt Gen Krissada Pankongchuen, provincial police commissioner said that the 200 police officers are from anti-riot and mob control units.

The police who are mobilised from Si Sa Ket and other nearby provinces will join army troops in the area near the temple.

The yellow shirts, of People's Alliance for Democracy, declared recently to gather on September 19 in Si Sa Ket to demand the Khmers to move out of the disputed area around the Hindu shrine.

Krissada said that the joint forces will prevent the protesters to enter the disputed area.

He said it is believed that there would be a large number of the protesters. "I already instruct police not to carry weapons and must not use violence on people," he said.

However he said he believed there would be no violence on that day.

-- The Nation 2009/09/16

[Chunkton]

Come on you pussies, get down there in your prized yellow shirt and help out. As you have already passed on a license for individual thought insulting the rest of us with your mindless diatribe for years on end, follow the sheep and demand satisfaction from those godless Cambodians stealing Thai soil. Come on put up or finally shut up. Don't forget your clappers now.

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Troll

[Orac]

Certainly going to make Saturday an interesting day - red shirts trying to take over Thailand, yellow shirts invading Cambodia. I wonder what the blue shirts have planned else they will feel left out!

[Farma]

<snip> stepping through the mud on tip toe in white trainers<snip>

555 I can just see Tiny Tim with his ukulele leading as the pack follows singing Tiptoe Through The Minefields.

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PAD rally to demand govt rid disputed territory at temple site of Cambodians

By The Nation

Published on September 18, 2009

Nationalist affiliates of the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) began to mobilise protesters yesterday for a demonstration at the historic and controversial Preah Vihear on Saturday.

They are demanding the government remove Cambodian villagers from the disputed area of 4.6 square kilometres, and replace them with Thais.

Some 100 protesters began their journey from northeastern Nakhon Ratchasima province to the Hindu temple yesterday, said Prapas Ngoksongnern, chairman of Four Regions Peoples Council.

They will invite people along the way from Buri Ram, Surin and Si Sa Ket to join the protest at the site in Si Sa Ket's Kantalalak district, he said.

The group distributed leaflets inviting Thai people who have no land for farming or residences to take over the area from the Cambodian community.

People along the border areas with Cambodia, from Ubon Ratchathani to Trat should reserve their right to sieze the territory, the leaflets said - 50 rai each at the border area to create a buffer zone with Cambodia.

People should wait until Sunday for an official reaction. "Unless the government [prevents them], the people would live in the area permanently," the leaflet said.

In Ubon Ratchathani, next to Preah Vihear, some 100 people gathered yesterday and called on the government to take action and claim the disputed area from Cambodia.

Some 300-500 protesters from Ubon Ratchathani would join the demonstration at the Preah Vihear on Saturday, said Thaveesak Wangpaisarn, coordinator of the Thai Ubon Patriots.

Thai military on the ground near the area adjacent to the Preah Vihaer were seen yesterday laying out barbed wire to block the protesters. The Second Army Region Commander Wiboonsak Neeparn, said the military would limit the area for protesters and prevent them from clashing with local residents who disagreed with the protest.

Meanwhile, people in Kathalalak district where the disputed area is located, hung out posters saying they did not want the protest to disturb their lives as they had no problem with Cambodia.

Local people in the district clashed with PAD's protesters last year when the nationalist group staged a rally there.

-- The Nation 2009/09/18

[ukrules]

I think there will be trouble here.

[britmaveric]

PAD muppets causing trouble again!

[jamesjdaly]

I used to have respect for the PAD. Now, they're just a bunch of power-hungry clowns making fools of themselves.

[tominbkk]

I used to have respect for the PAD. Now, they're just a bunch of power-hungry clowns making fools of themselves.

Any yellows or reds that want to duke it out, let them rent a stadium, bring in whatever weapons they want, and let them all dual to the death. The last remaining living person can then write a book about it. Otherwise, I have no pateince for any of them.

[Scott]

They were given tacit approval to take over gov't house and the airport. No reason for them to believe that can't take over another country as well.

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There's still an issue of Cambodian settlers on the disputed land, and of Cambodian troops shooting any Thai that steps in there.

If Cambodia recognizes "disputed" status they should move their civilians out of there themselves, without provoking Thai nationalist feelings.

[britmaveric]

Only disputed in Thailand's mind - rest of the world knows who it belongs to...

[geriatrickid]

I used to have respect for the PAD. Now, they're just a bunch of power-hungry clowns making fools of themselves.

Any yellows or reds that want to duke it out, let them rent a stadium, bring in whatever weapons they want, and let them all dual to the death. The last remaining living person can then write a book about it. Otherwise, I have no pateince for any of them.

I do not think the local residents that want PAD to stay away are "reds" per se, although this may force them to affiliate with the reds if the government doesn't intervene to stop the madness. If the local population is coping and able to live peacefully as this matter gets resolved, then really PAD should take the hint and not try and start a war.

Some idiot is going to step on a landmine. And some idiot is going to take a shot at a Cambodian soldier who will most likely toss a grenade back. Just plain stupidity here.

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Only disputed in Thailand's mind - rest of the world knows who it belongs to...

Are you talking about the land surrounding the temple or the temple itself? There's a difference, you know.

Only Cambodians treat it as if it's theirs. Even most nationalistic Thais recognize that the border issue hasn't been resolved.

There are no Thais squatting there.

[hammered]

It is going to attract a rake of reporters and column inches away from the red thing. Or at least it will unless the reds go mental but then again so may the yellows. There is a very interesting PR game being played here by all sides, and the army will have its trusted trained crowd control units split.

Edited to add: of ocurse both yellow and red have the right to rally peacefully

Edited September 18, 2009 by hammered

[jasreeve17]

An awful attempt at garnering up nationalism - always an easy ticket here.

This move has zero benefit for Thais or Thailand, but could have a very major negative impact (increased border tension, death, war...). It's an insane idea; let's hope it doesn't build momentum.

[Plus]

Hopefully it would provoke public interest and discussion on the border dispute, and hopefully some one would come up with a better idea than PAD.

[Thailand]

No longer sure which colour of shirt promotes the dafter responses.

Neither red nor yellow do themselves any favours but TIT and we are here as guests to watch the insanity progress- used to be amusing now just pathetic!

[Thai at Heart]

Just heard from my missus that on the TV they were reporting that police from Buriram on their way to Bangkok for the reds rally had an accident.

Wouldn't it be better to send them to Phrae Vihaer? Of course we know who runs Buriram.