Thaksin 'fears Economic Recovery Will Shut Him Out'

[LomSak27]

The Nation Says that .... Government whips say ...

Ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra and his allies were making all-out efforts to topple the Abhisit government before February, government whips said yesterday.

That was because Thaksin and Pheu Thai believed it would be more difficult to do bring the government down once the economy picks up early next year, when they expect the government's huge stimulus package to take fruit.

And I'm supposed to take any of this with a grain of salt

I guess they need to print something that sounds optimistic and keeps people looking over their shoulder for the bogeyman.

[rixalex]

Awesome!

Any particular reason you seem compelled to repeat this word in every post you make?

If you are trying to be sarcastic, fine, but could you at least vary it up a bit.

[Rumfoord]

Awesome!

Any particular reason you seem compelled to repeat this word in every post you make?

If you are trying to be sarcastic, fine, but could you at least vary it up a bit.

ohh, i talked with an other member about the etymological origin of a certain britisch english word. he said it's norse, my position was it is more likley that the norse word in question is just a Cognate.

i wrote also a more abstrac entry and to demonstrate cultural difference in historiography and histories of histories i worte a little bit about the history of historical linguistics studies and the use of different term for the same thing. indo-european languages vs. indo-germanic languages and so on.

but than came the '76 peacecorps and declared everything for BS. after this i just let a tumbleweed roll through the intellectual defoliated steppe.

in an other case i stumbled across the following line: Thai culture and civilization are utterly incapable of producing ... an Obama. posted by a board member.

my reply using the word hubris got deleted. okay hubris is of greek origin an not british english. i ask members of the super team for an advice and what what would be the appropriate choice of words for a reply and their answer was somewhat Zen, oracularly and quickly.

i conclude i should rely more on the optimistic branch of Bokononism.

and i think awesome is a good choice. it has something rabelaisian in it, almost. it is a fell good message. it is awesome. it is also US-american. and the US-american viewpoint, attitude is never wrong at this webforum. the risk of a delete for whatever reason is less.it will be never off topic. if i write more than 3 lines the risk that it goes off-topic is much higher.

so what is your problem with that? other forum characters spend their whole time with posting repetitive and redundant comments since years. 4,5,6 sometimes words and a smiley. knee-jerk reactions. unamusing. the usual.

i still offer a mixture in the style of my comments. that Abhisit is awesome is the mainstream opinion here, so i cheer a lot of people up.

[Jingthing]

Short answer (if you don't want to decipher the totally awesome novella) he is trying to be sarcastic.

Edited October 28, 2009 by Jingthing

[rixalex]

Any particular reason you seem compelled to repeat this word in every post you make?

If you are trying to be sarcastic, fine, but could you at least vary it up a bit.

ohh, i talked with an other member about the etymological origin of a certain britisch english word. he said it's norse, my position was it is more likley that the norse word in question is just a Cognate.

i wrote also a more abstrac entry and to demonstrate cultural difference in historiography and histories of histories i worte a little bit about the history of historical linguistics studies and the use of different term for the same thing. indo-european languages vs. indo-germanic languages and so on.

but than came the '76 peacecorps and declared everything for BS. after this i just let a tumbleweed roll through the intellectual defoliated steppe.

in an other case i stumbled across the following line: Thai culture and civilization are utterly incapable of producing ... an Obama. posted by a board member.

my reply using the word hubris got deleted. okay hubris is of greek origin an not british english. i ask members of the super team for an advice and what what would be the appropriate choice of words for a reply and their answer was somewhat Zen, oracularly and quickly.

i conclude i should rely more on the optimistic branch of Bokononism.

and i think awesome is a good choice. it has something rabelaisian in it, almost. it is a fell good message. it is awesome. it is also US-american. and the US-american viewpoint, attitude is never wrong at this webforum. the risk of a delete for whatever reason is less.it will be never off topic. if i write more than 3 lines the risk that it goes off-topic is much higher.

so what is your problem with that? other forum characters spend their whole time with posting repetitive and redundant comments since years. 4,5,6 sometimes words and a smiley. knee-jerk reactions. unamusing. the usual.

i still offer a mixture in the style of my comments. that Abhisit is awesome is the mainstream opinion here, so i cheer a lot of people up.

I wish i never asked.

[Publicus]

[Rumfoord]

Short answer (if you don't want to decipher the totally awesome novella) he is trying to be sarcastic.

awesome is The Word, not totally. and it is not an attempt in sarcasm. that is something else.

awesome is an innocent, friendly word. can make people smile. it is less moronic than MUHAHAHAHAHA and not imbecile like any use of a smiley would be.

[cmsally]

Short answer (if you don't want to decipher the totally awesome novella) he is trying to be sarcastic.

awesome is The Word, not totally. and it is not an attempt in sarcasm. that is something else.

awesome is an innocent, friendly word. can make people smile. it is less moronic than MUHAHAHAHAHA and not imbecile like any use of a smiley would be.

In short it's like "have a nice day". You know you are meant to say it but haven't really summed up the actual situation.

Best of all though you don't have to use any brain cells in its production, much like "awesome".

If you have a large enough group of people not using their brain cells you can have a "totally awesome time" and a "really nice day".

No need to waste your time thinking about boring things like economy, recovery, political agenda etc.

[KHarrelson]

Awesome!

Any particular reason you seem compelled to repeat this word in every post you make?

If you are trying to be sarcastic, fine, but could you at least vary it up a bit.

ohh, i talked with an other member about the etymological origin of a certain britisch english word. he said it's norse, my position was it is more likley that the norse word in question is just a Cognate.

i wrote also a more abstrac entry and to demonstrate cultural difference in historiography and histories of histories i worte a little bit about the history of historical linguistics studies and the use of different term for the same thing. indo-european languages vs. indo-germanic languages and so on.

but than came the '76 peacecorps and declared everything for BS. after this i just let a tumbleweed roll through the intellectual defoliated steppe.

in an other case i stumbled across the following line: Thai culture and civilization are utterly incapable of producing ... an Obama. posted by a board member.

my reply using the word hubris got deleted. okay hubris is of greek origin an not british english. i ask members of the super team for an advice and what what would be the appropriate choice of words for a reply and their answer was somewhat Zen, oracularly and quickly.

i conclude i should rely more on the optimistic branch of Bokononism.

and i think awesome is a good choice. it has something rabelaisian in it, almost. it is a fell good message. it is awesome. it is also US-american. and the US-american viewpoint, attitude is never wrong at this webforum. the risk of a delete for whatever reason is less.it will be never off topic. if i write more than 3 lines the risk that it goes off-topic is much higher.

so what is your problem with that? other forum characters spend their whole time with posting repetitive and redundant comments since years. 4,5,6 sometimes words and a smiley. knee-jerk reactions. unamusing. the usual.

i still offer a mixture in the style of my comments. that Abhisit is awesome is the mainstream opinion here, so i cheer a lot of people up.

psilocybin mushrooms

[Publicus]

Short answer (if you don't want to decipher the totally awesome novella) he is trying to be sarcastic.

awesome is The Word, not totally. and it is not an attempt in sarcasm. that is something else.

awesome is an innocent, friendly word. can make people smile. it is less moronic than MUHAHAHAHAHA and not imbecile like any use of a smiley would be.

In short it's like "have a nice day". You know you are meant to say it but haven't really summed up the actual situation.

Best of all though you don't have to use any brain cells in its production, much like "awesome".

If you have a large enough group of people not using their brain cells you can have a "totally awesome time" and a "really nice day".

No need to waste your time thinking about boring things like economy, recovery, political agenda etc.

We know absolutely Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure was awesome because the word was used in the script dozens of times.

Thaksin's fears the Thai economy will experience an awesome recovery very soon, and that consequently He will be forgotten are awesomely real. Many Reds find Thaksin to be an awesome figure and an awesome leader.

Awesome!

Edited October 28, 2009 by Publicus

[Rumfoord]

In short it's like "have a nice day". You know you are meant to say it but haven't really summed up the actual situation.

Best of all though you don't have to use any brain cells in its production, much like "awesome".

If you have a large enough group of people not using their brain cells you can have a "totally awesome time" and a "really nice day".

No need to waste your time thinking about boring things like economy, recovery, political agenda etc.

Awesome Etonian is awesome!

more photos here at the government website: http://media.thaigov.go.th/pageconfig/albu...38&pageno=1

the photos were taken today, at the opening ceremony for an exhibition that celebrates the 50th year anniversary of the the National Research Council of Thailand . PM Abhisit spoke at that opening ceremony.

cmsally, can you still be concerned about the about boring things like economy, recovery, political agenda etc.? yes, i guess. so no damage done.

awesome isn't superficial or meaningless like "have a nice day". it is also not a lullaby song, opium or distraction from the 'real' problems.

is it felicitous to say (felicitous for that moment above) Abhisit is awesome? yes, i would say. and i couldn't think of any other word that describes it it better. (here in that context)

friends?

[Thai at Heart]

In short it's like "have a nice day". You know you are meant to say it but haven't really summed up the actual situation.

Best of all though you don't have to use any brain cells in its production, much like "awesome".

If you have a large enough group of people not using their brain cells you can have a "totally awesome time" and a "really nice day".

No need to waste your time thinking about boring things like economy, recovery, political agenda etc.

Awesome Etonian is awesome!

more photos here at the government website: http://media.thaigov.go.th/pageconfig/albu...38&pageno=1

the photos were taken today, at the opening ceremony for an exhibition that celebrates the 50th year anniversary of the the National Research Council of Thailand . PM Abhisit spoke at that opening ceremony.

cmsally, can you still be concerned about the about boring things like economy, recovery, political agenda etc.? yes, i guess. so no damage done.

awesome isn't superficial or meaningless like "have a nice day". it is also not a lullaby song, opium or distraction from the 'real' problems.

is it felicitous to say (felicitous for that moment above) Abhisit is awesome? yes, i would say. and i couldn't think of any other word that describes it it better. (here in that context)

friends?

The point being that no old Etonian or Oxford graduate would want to be "Awsome".

Abhisit is far to much, you know, Sort of "cute", or maybe "cool", "wicked". But definitely lacking the cut of David Brent and reflecting Michael Scott far too much. He needs to give up pen pushing.

But lest we forget Giles Ungkporn is also an Oxford Graduate from astonishingly the same college. How convenient the lese majeste laws are. He could have resurrected his old debating society probable foe and had a real discussion in Thailand.

How close the knife can cut!

[Publicus]

To state it directly, constant reiterations of any word such as we see in the use of the word 'awesome' constitute a usage that is inter alia glib, trite, mundane, cliched, meant to be intellectually insulting. The repeated pattern of its use offers nothing new or insightful, nothing specific, valuable or meaningful which might be predicated on knowledge or experience and certainly nothing original to the immediate particulars.

As sarcasim it is useful, however, as with any other overuse of a word it diminishes in its utility. Worse, it begins to draw attention to itself and to its practitioner. In this particular instance, it is a crutch that permits the user to avoid any material or intellectually serious response and to dodge any substantive offering which may make a respectable contribution to the discourse, whether the contribution be long faced serious or a bright and witty one.

Of course humor, wit and relief from the heavy weight of sober discussion is desirable, necessary and welcome. Accordingly, I therefore present my own individual contribution as follows

Edited October 28, 2009 by Publicus

[Rumfoord]

The point being that no old Etonian or Oxford graduate would want to be "Awsome".

Abhisit is far to much, you know, Sort of "cute", or maybe "cool", "wicked". But definitely lacking the cut of David Brent and reflecting Michael Scott far too much. He needs to give up pen pushing.

But lest we forget Giles Ungkporn is also an Oxford Graduate from astonishingly the same college. How convenient the lese majeste laws are. He could have resurrected his old debating society probable foe and had a real discussion in Thailand.

How close the knife can cut!

Abhisit is undeniable unique.

In addition, he is far too much.

It is an unbelievable silly show. He does nothing else, in his daily schedule are 4-5 similar photo op's, propaganda tasks. At least twice a week it comes to a format like above. Pure awesomeness. Like consumption of one kilo of the psilo shrooms above.

Show elements and ideas every game show must be envy of. And like he said he is having fun running the country. he tries to create a big illusion. The only reason why he doesn’t fail is because nobody watches. Not on TV or otherwise in the news. He tries hard, the PR team tries hard, but nobody turns on the TV or follows his twitter channel. Viewing figures minimal. But hey, I tell everybody: he is awesome, you will not see something similar somewhere else.

He is also good for more serious stands like his appearance at the ASTV party, as best buddy of Sondhis son, who is now owner of an ASTV newspaper.

I am surprised that nobody said: WTbeep? Arai wah?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Pm-Abhisit-L...tv-t309765.html

That what some Politburo big-whip said becomes the news, Announcement from the Politburo are the only news. That is surrealistic, that can I take for real, but they just did it and people accept it and don't ask questions. For me as observer is that awesome, it is like some b-movie plot where continuity errors and hilarious illogicalness are the narrative aesthetic that makes it worth watching.

[Rumfoord]

To state it directly, constant reiterations of any word such as we see in the use of the word 'awesome' constitute a usage that is inter alia glib, trite, mundane, cliched, meant to be intellectually insulting. The repeated pattern of its use offers nothing new or insightful, nothing specific, valuable or meaningful which might be predicated on knowledge or experience and certainly nothing original to the immediate particulars.

As sarcasim it is useful, however, as with any other overuse of a word it diminishes in its utility. Worse, it begins to draw attention to itself and to its practitioner. In this particular instance, it is a crutch that permits the user to avoid any material or intellectually serious response and to dodge any substantive offering which may make a respectable contribution to the discourse, whether the contribution be long faced serious or a bright and witty one.

Of course humor, wit and relief from the heavy weight of sober discussion is desirable, necessary and welcome. Accordingly, I therefore present my own individual contribution as follows

The use of simleys is intellectual insulting.

With one point you are right, the awesome comment, doesn't leave much option for a response, but if you are that wise wit you should recognise that there is the possibility that you just comment at the same object.

Don’t declare yourself to the big contributor of eloquent debategasms if you are just rely on fictional biographic storytelling as argument, backseat modding and are trigger happy with the report button. discourse is something else.

In addition, what you want to discuss here in a sober manner? The usual antithaksin rants. I have heard them already. x-times. These über emotional outbursts are non entertaining, not intellectual stimulating and don't enhance knowledge.

Your entry above reveal for the first time that you are rudimental be capable to type something that isn't completely yawn but have some small silver lining. Work on that and maybe we can develop here some style of debate club manner that is not the usual bickering. Text wins, not noise or oneliner heckler. Stay objective and sober and do not fabricate your 'facts'. Essential is to skip the use of smileys.

Anyway, do not forget: Abhisit is AWESOME!

[rixalex]

Stay objective

Awesome!

[Publicus]

To state it directly, constant reiterations of any word such as we see in the use of the word 'awesome' constitute a usage that is inter alia glib, trite, mundane, cliched, meant to be intellectually insulting. The repeated pattern of its use offers nothing new or insightful, nothing specific, valuable or meaningful which might be predicated on knowledge or experience and certainly nothing original to the immediate particulars.

As sarcasim it is useful, however, as with any other overuse of a word it diminishes in its utility. Worse, it begins to draw attention to itself and to its practitioner. In this particular instance, it is a crutch that permits the user to avoid any material or intellectually serious response and to dodge any substantive offering which may make a respectable contribution to the discourse, whether the contribution be long faced serious or a bright and witty one.

Of course humor, wit and relief from the heavy weight of sober discussion is desirable, necessary and welcome. Accordingly, I therefore present my own individual contribution as follows

The use of simleys is intellectual insulting.

With one point you are right, the awesome comment, doesn't leave much option for a response, but if you are that wise wit you should recognise that there is the possibility that you just comment at the same object.

Don't declare yourself to the big contributor of eloquent debategasms if you are just rely on fictional biographic storytelling as argument, backseat modding and are trigger happy with the report button. discourse is something else.

In addition, what you want to discuss here in a sober manner? The usual antithaksin rants. I have heard them already. x-times. These über emotional outbursts are non entertaining, not intellectual stimulating and don't enhance knowledge.

Your entry above reveal for the first time that you are rudimental be capable to type something that isn't completely yawn but have some small silver lining. Work on that and maybe we can develop here some style of debate club manner that is not the usual bickering. Text wins, not noise or oneliner heckler. Stay objective and sober and do not fabricate your 'facts'. Essential is to skip the use of smileys.

Anyway, do not forget: Abhisit is AWESOME!

I've never used the report button but thanks for the reminder.

Friends?

[Publicus]

Oops, force of habit.

Actually I'm listening to you, so let's reset and start anew.

[walkup]

Awesome!

Any particular reason you seem compelled to repeat this word in every post you make?

If you are trying to be sarcastic, fine, but could you at least vary it up a bit.

ohh, i talked with an other member about the etymological origin of a certain britisch english word. he said it's norse, my position was it is more likley that the norse word in question is just a Cognate.

i wrote also a more abstrac entry and to demonstrate cultural difference in historiography and histories of histories i worte a little bit about the history of historical linguistics studies and the use of different term for the same thing. indo-european languages vs. indo-germanic languages and so on.

but than came the '76 peacecorps and declared everything for BS. after this i just let a tumbleweed roll through the intellectual defoliated steppe.

in an other case i stumbled across the following line: Thai culture and civilization are utterly incapable of producing ... an Obama. posted by a board member.

my reply using the word hubris got deleted. okay hubris is of greek origin an not british english. i ask members of the super team for an advice and what what would be the appropriate choice of words for a reply and their answer was somewhat Zen, oracularly and quickly.

i conclude i should rely more on the optimistic branch of Bokononism.

and i think awesome is a good choice. it has something rabelaisian in it, almost. it is a fell good message. it is awesome. it is also US-american. and the US-american viewpoint, attitude is never wrong at this webforum. the risk of a delete for whatever reason is less.it will be never off topic. if i write more than 3 lines the risk that it goes off-topic is much higher.

so what is your problem with that? other forum characters spend their whole time with posting repetitive and redundant comments since years. 4,5,6 sometimes words and a smiley. knee-jerk reactions. unamusing. the usual.

i still offer a mixture in the style of my comments. that Abhisit is awesome is the mainstream opinion here, so i cheer a lot of people up.

Reading the above, It is awesome what a second class education can produce.

It is somewhat amusing to see the state of some of Thaksin's falang supporters.

[tig28]

I wish i never asked.

In my long life I have seen some magnificent and stunning mistakes --- occasionally even I have made some myself --- but nothing - absolutely nothing even comes close to :

Any particular reason you seem compelled to repeat this word in every post you make?

If you are trying to be sarcastic, fine, but could you at least vary it up a bit.

Please, please in future consider the ramification of your words. Others are forced to endure the consequences of your cavalier actions!

I too wish you had never asked!

Smiles are awesome!

[hammered]

Well this thread seems to be filled with complete off topic nonsense of linguistics 101 and pseudo intellectual point making. I wonder if anyone actually wants to comment on how an economic recovery would affect the chance of Thaksin returning?

Or maybe it is more important to some people to stifle debate

[quiksilva]

To state it directly, constant reiterations of any word such as we see in the use of the word 'awesome' constitute a usage that is inter alia glib, trite, mundane, cliched, meant to be intellectually insulting. The repeated pattern of its use offers nothing new or insightful, nothing specific, valuable or meaningful which might be predicated on knowledge or experience and certainly nothing original to the immediate particulars.

As sarcasim it is useful, however, as with any other overuse of a word it diminishes in its utility. Worse, it begins to draw attention to itself and to its practitioner. In this particular instance, it is a crutch that permits the user to avoid any material or intellectually serious response and to dodge any substantive offering which may make a respectable contribution to the discourse, whether the contribution be long faced serious or a bright and witty one.

Of course humor, wit and relief from the heavy weight of sober discussion is desirable, necessary and welcome. Accordingly, I therefore present my own individual contribution as follows

Awesome post!

[tig28]

Absit's problem would then be with the military Seriously even if Abhisit wanted to do this it is likely there are many in the coalition who wouldnt. It would of course be nice to see, but unlikely imho.

Hi hammered

It was but my dream.

My belief is that Abhisit really suffers hugely from this right now. The military was the driving force behind the Democrats achieving power --- and the dems are not foolish enough to ever forget it!

After decades of both hard and soft coups an uncontrolled military shall never stand by and allow any government to act against their interests financial or otherwise. Very sad for the nation.

If my memory serves me correctly --- in the months prior to the coup Thaksin was delaying and manipulating the Army promotions list ...... now that was a really really bad idea.

He had already re stacked the police force (just as the dems have been doing) and it seemed he was seeking to do the same with the Army. There are some conflicts better avoided .... even when you think you are a master of the universe.

Today - a rooster --- tomorrow a feather duster.

But if a lot of things line up for Abhisit it is not impossible that he really is a potential leader of integrity and it is not impossible that a real Government could (slowly) unwind the power of he military.

There are so many current obstacles to Thailands progress that the on-going obsession of some with Thaksin tends to push them into the background. Right now --- today -- corruption , cronyism and all the self same evils of the Thaksin years flourish. They might even be worse!!

The brave warriors of PAD , their fellow travelers and the loud voices on TV have never wanted to fight corruption --- they only wanted to fight Thaksin corruption.

Grand hypocrisy ??

[webfact]

//General notice//

Off-topic replies are not tolerated anymore. This time I will not going to remove these posts. Another moderator may very well decide differently.

If you want your post to live stay on topic,

We will let it stay open for a while to see whether you get back on track and discuss the topic subject or continue with off-topic replies.

Then we will close this thread.

[Publicus]

It's unrealistic to expect any great difference in the Thai economy between now and February. Actually, if Thaksin and his Reds want to destroy the governemnt by February, we'd be looking at the economy over a two month period, November and December, and that would assume Thaksin & Co wouldn't make their move until mid or late January.

If some upward movement of the economy were to become detectable, then what would be Thaksin's line of argument to legitimize bringing down the government? That it's a coup installed government? It certainly is not.

So given there isn't any real reason to destroy the government now, Thaksin and the Reds would have to destroy it literally, either in the streets or by managing to buy off enuff MP's the latter being something I don't forsee. That would leave violence for the sake of violence and revolution for the sake of Thaksin and Thaksin alone.

Edited October 29, 2009 by Publicus

[hammered]

Absit's problem would then be with the military Seriously even if Abhisit wanted to do this it is likely there are many in the coalition who wouldnt. It would of course be nice to see, but unlikely imho.

Hi hammered

It was but my dream.

My belief is that Abhisit really suffers hugely from this right now. The military was the driving force behind the Democrats achieving power --- and the dems are not foolish enough to ever forget it!

After decades of both hard and soft coups an uncontrolled military shall never stand by and allow any government to act against their interests financial or otherwise. Very sad for the nation.

If my memory serves me correctly --- in the months prior to the coup Thaksin was delaying and manipulating the Army promotions list ...... now that was a really really bad idea.

He had already re stacked the police force (just as the dems have been doing) and it seemed he was seeking to do the same with the Army. There are some conflicts better avoided .... even when you think you are a master of the universe.

Today - a rooster --- tomorrow a feather duster.

But if a lot of things line up for Abhisit it is not impossible that he really is a potential leader of integrity and it is not impossible that a real Government could (slowly) unwind the power of he military.

There are so many current obstacles to Thailands progress that the on-going obsession of some with Thaksin tends to push them into the background. Right now --- today -- corruption , cronyism and all the self same evils of the Thaksin years flourish. They might even be worse!!

The brave warriors of PAD , their fellow travelers and the loud voices on TV have never wanted to fight corruption --- they only wanted to fight Thaksin corruption.

Grand hypocrisy ??

My feeling is any of the current players still have an opportunity to come out looking good or bad. It depends on how they act.

However while the economy may be one factor that affects things another is a big change at some point. Considering the unstable nature of Thai poltics it is unlikely that the military will allow much freedom or bow out until that is over and settled. That will limit and to some degree set the options of all the players. An improving economy may be seen as soemthing that could empower Abhisit potentailly and theoretically enable him to move away from the military. However, that can only be within the confines of the bigger "context" imho.

By the way, if the military went to Thaksin and did a deal to return him by coup he would no doubt take it. As there are theoretical and maybe possible ways for Abhisit to take the democratic high ground there are theroetical and possible scenarios for Thaksin to become coup supported.

Of course corruption, all of it, or at least as much as possible needs to be done away with whoever is involved. That imho will be aprt of the future: less corruption, more democracy, less or no coups, a slightly better distribution of wealth, greater opportunity for all to some degree and a larger middle class. That is the medium to long term future. The short term remains problematic though.

[Publicus]

So if one big event happens between now and February, the election would be called off.

Given the paucity of Thai talent in politics and government, I'd like to see Abhisit get the time he would need to show all of us that he is the leader we'd like to think he can be. If he can have a strengthened economy and stable sociopolitics, he could have the necessary conditions to show he can govern and lead in new ways. Abhisit's new ways wouldn't be as new or as broad as we may like, but a few significant changes such as less corruption as a starter would be highly beneficial to the country's well being and renewed development.

[Gary A]

It would be an AWESOME thing if the government would start tending to government business and actually address some of the country's problems. Instead they concentrate on Thaksin and do little if anything constructive. If they did their jobs rather than squabbling and keeping Thaksin in the news, people would eventually forget who Thaksin is.

Throwing a few crumbs to the poor upcountry farmers wouldn't hurt their cause either.

[Insight]

It would be an AWESOME thing if the government would start tending to government business and actually address some of the country's problems. Instead they concentrate on Thaksin and do little if anything constructive. If they did their jobs rather than squabbling and keeping Thaksin in the news, people would eventually forget who Thaksin is.

Throwing a few crumbs to the poor upcountry farmers wouldn't hurt their cause either.

The govt is (arguably doing a poor job of) fighting a PR war with Thaksin. If it went unmonitored Thaksin would have a much easier job in fulfilling his blatant ambition to completely destabilise the country.

I agree it's very depressing seeing the same back-and-forth going on repeatedly in the press, month after month, but ignoring it just isn't a possibility.

[hammered]

So if one big event happens between now and February, the election would be called off.

Given the paucity of Thai talent in politics and government, I'd like to see Abhisit get the time he would need to show all of us that he is the leader we'd like to think he can be. If he can have a strengthened economy and stable sociopolitics, he could have the necessary conditions to show he can govern and lead in new ways. Abhisit's new ways wouldn't be as new or as broad as we may like, but a few significant changes such as less corruption as a starter would be highly beneficial to the country's well being and renewed development.

Who knows what would happen in the case you mention. However, the prosepct does overshadow everything whether we like it or not.

Consdiering the nature of his cabinet I dont think Abhisit can control or limit corruption even if he wants to. I dont doubt Chaun Leekpai was the cleanest PM Thailand ever had (even most of his opponents concede this) but he couldnt limit corruption and it led to the downfall of his first government. Abhisit may well be in a similar position.