Trump, a case of Malignant Normalcy (besides the "normal" Malignant Narcissim)

[ChiangMaiFun]

I wake up with chronic aching and suspect I may have it - anyone else? any specialists in the area?

[noahvail]

Ok, stupid question, but I've never heard of Formalgia. Fibromyalgia, yes....

[Sheryl]

I think you mean fibromyalgia???

[ChiangMaiFun]

I think you mean fibromyalgia???

oh how stupid of me... see it effects the brain as well!!! doh...

[Sheryl]

The poster has clarified to me that he means fibromyalgia and is seeking treatment in Chiang Mai

OP,

Best bet is Sripat (Suan Doc), that's where the best specialists are tho I'd be surprised if there was anybody specifically specializing in fibromylagia. Try a neurologist and see where that takes you.

[Rooo]

OP requested this be moved back to CM forum, as he is looking for care there.

[Soulwy]

I think you mean fibromyalgia???

oh how stupid of me... see it effects the brain as well!!! doh...

At least it didn't effect your sense of humour...

So you have chronic aching...why do you think it is Fibro? Have you visited a regular doctor for a general diagnosis/check up? Fibro is tricky, as it is not easy to diagnose.

[justmaybe]

With all respect to

Sheryl's reply, look for a rheumatologist, and a sympathetic one at that. FMS is real enough, but a lot of physicians don't buy it. There are a lot of underlying causes that can have the same symptoms. Don't know any names to offer in Chiang Mai, but I also suspect you'll end up in Bangkok.

[zippydedodah]

i was officially diagnosed with fibromyalgia in USA around 4 yrs ago....along with spinal arthritis and arthritis in my feet. US docs (saw several) put me thru chiropractic, acupuncture and in the end, a lot of pain meds (vicodin, primarily) and sleeping pills. Well, a couple of years of that nonsense wore me right down and i found a practitioner of thai massage and martial arts instructor/healer, trained here, had several "degrees" in hand and an excellent reputation in San Fran for treating sports injuries and accident victims.

TO make a long story short, after one year of treatments (beginning with once a week (one hour sessions), and at the end, tapered to once a month), i am pain free and medication free. I would go every other month or so for a "tune-up session)

Since retiring to thailand last August, i have experienced the beginnings of mild spinal and musculature discomfort - so i sought out a good "nerve" masseuse who serves me well - and i have only gone twice since august (see thread on remedial massage in TV).

As always, mileage may vary, but a really good nerve massage has helped several people i know with these types of issues.

Really a lot better than just taking pills all the time.....

[justmaybe]

There's such a wide spectrum of symptoms and manifestations that self-diagnosis isn't going to be of much help. I have it to a lesser degree in conjunction with a cogenital muscle problem. I did the round of US doctors, as well; the rheumatologist was the only one who spotted and worked with it effetively. Initially, sleeping pills are supposed to help get the body to a level of restorative sleep. Never got any heavier into pain meds than nabumetone (aka Relafen) and then only sporadically. Sometimes a low-level antidepressant is thrown in to help with peripheral nerve pain if it's present. I was living in a colder climate then and the move here alone seems to have taken care of much of it and it's been quite some time since I've felt the need for any specific treatment.

I completely agree with the above poster that a good nerve-touch massage is well worth looking into. In her heyday, Lek Chaiya (opposite Montri Hotel on the side street) repaired many an ache for me that general practitioners just wanted to shrug or pill away. I don't know if she's still active, but that's the style I'd check into and she must have many graduates of her classes working in Chiang Mai.

[Soulwy]

What helped me most with all kinds of achings is analyzing myself and situations.

When does is it hurt, where, what did I do, what did I eat etc. And then what do I need and trying to adjust my habits. Even though I am recently diagnosed with X and Y, I don't like to label the symptoms because it is limiting me.

What helped me most with these achings is complementary healing practices: acupuncture, Ayurvedic massages, pressing massages, breathing and relaxation methods and the only meds I took was orthomolecular ones.

Yeah, and the climate helps me a lot. I am way too young to retire but since I have been in a warm country, I am able to live again.

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Since retiring to thailand last August, i have experienced the beginnings of mild spinal and musculature discomfort - so i sought out a good "nerve" masseuse who serves me well - and i have only gone twice since august (see thread on remedial massage in TV).

As always, mileage may vary, but a really good nerve massage has helped several people i know with these types of issues.

Really a lot better than just taking pills all the time.....

No pills, when the pain was unbearable this non-smoker preferred Mary Huana ;-)

Nerve massage...good to know zippydedodah...

TS, good luck and take it easy. Hope you find a good one.

Wishing you Health and Happiness,

S*

[ChiangMaiFun]

I think you mean fibromyalgia???

oh how stupid of me... see it effects the brain as well!!! doh...

At least it didn't effect your sense of humour...

So you have chronic aching...why do you think it is Fibro? Have you visited a regular doctor for a general diagnosis/check up? Fibro is tricky, as it is not easy to diagnose.

Hi sorry for late reply - I just kinda self-diagnosed as it fits the symptoms - I wake up aching and can hardly wake - the only thing that helps is a hot bath and a Tramadol.

Sometimes that aching can be in the calf muscles and even the arm muscles (along the arm).

It is quite debilitating – and I have no idea why it has suddenly ‘started’ – however, having said that I have sort of suffered for a decade with sciatica (I have a pro-lapsed disc in neck and degenerative lower back discs) but why the chronic aching? Especially in the hips?

Thai massage makes it much, much worse – so much so I can hardly get up off the floor – I came across fibro and all the symptoms looked similar – but, of course, I can be very wrong.

Stretching helps too – but I need to go through a ‘process’ to indentify exactly what the problem is.

[zippydedodah]

I think you mean fibromyalgia???

oh how stupid of me... see it effects the brain as well!!! doh...

At least it didn't effect your sense of humour...

So you have chronic aching...why do you think it is Fibro? Have you visited a regular doctor for a general diagnosis/check up? Fibro is tricky, as it is not easy to diagnose.

Hi sorry for late reply - I just kinda self-diagnosed as it fits the symptoms - I wake up aching and can hardly wake - the only thing that helps is a hot bath and a Tramadol.

Sometimes that aching can be in the calf muscles and even the arm muscles (along the arm).

It is quite debilitating – and I have no idea why it has suddenly ‘started’ – however, having said that I have sort of suffered for a decade with sciatica (I have a pro-lapsed disc in neck and degenerative lower back discs) but why the chronic aching? Especially in the hips?

Thai massage makes it much, much worse – so much so I can hardly get up off the floor – I came across fibro and all the symptoms looked similar – but, of course, I can be very wrong.

Stretching helps too – but I need to go through a ‘process’ to indentify exactly what the problem is.

WOw....that is a tough one.... if you want an american doctor who works in a thai hospital, Sriphat has Dr. Greg Greer is highly recommended and he might make you feel comfortable if you are looking for a western approach to diagnosis and treatment. Check their website for his hours to make sure he will be there if you decide to go.

Otherwise, keep searching for alternative medicines and treatment...there are plenty of resources here in CM.... wish you all the best... i can remember what that felt like and i hope you find a speedy and final solution to the problem.

[ChiangMaiFun]

At least it didn't effect your sense of humour...

So you have chronic aching...why do you think it is Fibro? Have you visited a regular doctor for a general diagnosis/check up? Fibro is tricky, as it is not easy to diagnose.

Hi sorry for late reply - I just kinda self-diagnosed as it fits the symptoms - I wake up aching and can hardly wake - the only thing that helps is a hot bath and a Tramadol.

Sometimes that aching can be in the calf muscles and even the arm muscles (along the arm).

It is quite debilitating – and I have no idea why it has suddenly 'started' – however, having said that I have sort of suffered for a decade with sciatica (I have a pro-lapsed disc in neck and degenerative lower back discs) but why the chronic aching? Especially in the hips?

Thai massage makes it much, much worse – so much so I can hardly get up off the floor – I came across fibro and all the symptoms looked similar – but, of course, I can be very wrong.

Stretching helps too – but I need to go through a 'process' to indentify exactly what the problem is.

WOw....that is a tough one.... if you want an american doctor who works in a thai hospital, Sriphat has Dr. Greg Greer is highly recommended and he might make you feel comfortable if you are looking for a western approach to diagnosis and treatment. Check their website for his hours to make sure he will be there if you decide to go.

Otherwise, keep searching for alternative medicines and treatment...there are plenty of resources here in CM.... wish you all the best... i can remember what that felt like and i hope you find a speedy and final solution to the problem.

Thanks very much

[Soulwy]

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