I'm told that five days ago on Soi 8 a number of bars were raided and at least one venue fined. That bar's owner Thai wife was taken to the police station and set free only after paying 25,000 Baht.

The offense? Playing Thai language music cds.

I'm told that five days ago on Soi 8 a number of bars were raided and at least one venue fined.  That bar's owner Thai wife was taken to the police station and set free only after paying 25,000 Baht. 

The offense?  Playing Thai language music cds.

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Playing music after 1am, that is the offence.

Good! At least the police are hitting everywhere now.

I'm told that five days ago on Soi 8 a number of bars were raided and at least one venue fined.  That bar's owner Thai wife was taken to the police station and set free only after paying 25,000 Baht. 

The offense?  Playing Thai language music cds.

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Playing music after 1am, that is the offence.

Good! At least the police are hitting everywhere now.

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A few days ago I posted on another board about a rep from GMM-Grammy visiting a friend's bar in regard to the payment of royalties for the playing of CDs in the bar? And as someone else said that company only handles Thai music.

-redwood

A few days ago I posted on another board about a rep from GMM-Grammy visiting a friend's bar in regard to the payment of royalties for the playing of CDs in the bar?  And as someone else said that company only handles Thai music.

-redwood

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Sounds like a scam to me. If that was true, bars all over the world (and radio stations) would all be paying huge amounts of royalties. And what about all the little bar bands around the world, barely making enough to eat. If they all had to start coughing up royalties, most of them would disappear.

I hired a band one time (Doug and the Slugs) for a private (military) gig. The band had a couple of records, and a couple of hits, in the early 70's I think.

3 weeks after the show, some ###### in the boondocks calls me up and tells me I have to pay him close to $200 in royalties, even though the band was singing their own, copyrighted songs !

The pisser is, most of the royalties paid don't go to the artist/group, they go to the recording companies and distributors.

I told him to get stuffed. There was nothing in the performance contract saying anything about royalties. He never called back.

Sounds like the way to go, turn off the racket so people can have a chat and a few beers, and also not keeping local residents awake all night.

Sounds like the way to go, turn off the racket so people can have a chat and a few beers, and also not keeping local residents awake all night.

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I'm with you all the way on that one.

A few days ago I posted on another board about a rep from GMM-Grammy visiting a friend's bar in regard to the payment of royalties for the playing of CDs in the bar? And as someone else said that company only handles Thai music. 

Its true i'm afraid.

I'm told that five days ago on Soi 8 a number of bars were raided and at least one venue fined.  That bar's owner Thai wife was taken to the police station and set free only after paying 25,000 Baht. 

The offense?  Playing Thai language music cds.

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Playing music after 1am, that is the offence.

Good! At least the police are hitting everywhere now.

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A few days ago I posted on another board about a rep from GMM-Grammy visiting a friend's bar in regard to the payment of royalties for the playing of CDs in the bar? And as someone else said that company only handles Thai music.

-redwood

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I don't know about ALL over the world, but I can tell you from my personal experience that at least in Europe (more or less) all bars pay royalities for publicly played music. The amount to be paid depends on a lot of factors, like size, opening times, Background Music only or DJ .....

About your experience: correct, as a promoter you are supposed to register the gig and pay Royalities. The amount might have been much higher in your case as you failed to notify the Royality company in advance ....

It does not matter if the band played their own stuff or covers, as long as their music is copyrighted. You pay the band a fee for performing, not for their composing activities .....

I used to work as a Concert promoter and Music bar manager back in Europe, the tariff we paid for DJ and Live music (some with entry fee, some free entry) was in the area of 150$ a month. For Single concerts the tariff in Austria is theoretically 10% of the gross takings, but this can be reduced to less than 2% once you learn to know how .....

Sunny

A few days ago I posted on another board about a rep from GMM-Grammy visiting a friend's bar in regard to the payment of royalties for the playing of CDs in the bar?  And as someone else said that company only handles Thai music.

-redwood

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Sounds like a scam to me. If that was true, bars all over the world (and radio stations) would all be paying huge amounts of royalties. And what about all the little bar bands around the world, barely making enough to eat. If they all had to start coughing up royalties, most of them would disappear.

I hired a band one time (Doug and the Slugs) for a private (military) gig. The band had a couple of records, and a couple of hits, in the early 70's I think.

3 weeks after the show, some ###### in the boondocks calls me up and tells me I have to pay him close to $200 in royalties, even though the band was singing their own, copyrighted songs !

The pisser is, most of the royalties paid don't go to the artist/group, they go to the recording companies and distributors.

I told him to get stuffed. There was nothing in the performance contract saying anything about royalties. He never called back.

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Thats bulls***t, KerryD!

The record company gets nothing at all! It ALL goes to the copyright owners,(writers and publishers.) Its called copyright law and many people depend on it for a living. You broke it for $200!

Thailand is in the process of trying to establish this and Grammy are the leaders here. Its called PRS ...........and its absolutely fair!!!!!!

Pattaya musiclover

Just heard that the bust was at 9 p.m., that seven other places were visited/raided (don't know the outcomes) and that if the bar had earlier paid 3,000 Baht for a license there wouldn't have been a problem.

>>>Sounds like the way to go, turn off the racket so people can have a chat and a few beers

Ya but the girls stop dancing

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