90 Day Reporting Reduced To 29 Days

[lungbing]

I did my 90 reporting at Khon Kaen this morning (very busy with dozens of Burmese filling in forms) and when the officer gave me back my passport after stapling in the new reporting form I checked it and he had put a reporting date of 26th October. I queried this as I was expecting a date somewhere near the end of December. He said 26th October was when my visa expired and he would not give me a reporting date past then.

I always thought the 90 day and the visa extension renewal were two separate items, not tied together. I once had a 90 day started again from the visa renewal date, to try and get them in line I suppose, but have never had one cut short.

Is this normal?

[dsfbrit]

No definitely not normal. In fact at Pattaya Immigration when I went to do my 90 day report the immigration officer pointed I must do my next report on the 14th September, 2 weeks after my annual visa extension based on marriage ran out on the 30th August. When I completed my visit to Immigration to do the annual extension the officer doing the extension paperwork reminded me again that I must report on the 14th September as well as return to pick up my visa extension on the 30th September.

[ignis]

Last year my 1yr extension ended end on Feb, my 90 days ended beginning of Feb, they gave me 90days take the reporting over 2 months past the permission to stay..

Not sure you say Visa ? most visa are for 90 days anyway so you would never need to do the 90 day report

[metisdead]

The immigration officer was correct.

[lopburi3]

No it is not normal or correct under regulations but seems to be an attempt to help us make fewer trips by getting one of the 90 day reports in sync with our annual extension of stay. As it only costs filling out a piece of paper expect it is worth it.

Unfortunately it seldom works well as a trip outside Thailand will change the dates again.

[lungbing]

True, Lop, but only if you renew on the 26th October, ie the last day of your extension. And who in their right mind would risk that. I intend to renew later this week. I couldn't do them both today as I couldn't get the bank letter in time.

It will be interesting to see if they will give me a full 90 days from this week when I renew my extension, or will I have to go back on 26th October. Thank heavens it's not the long haul up to Nong Khai anymore, the KK office is only 15 minutes from home.

[lopburi3]

You have a 7 day window so doing it 7 days early would work for most people. They do not do this in Bangkok as of my last extension in June.

Immigration has been split on the 90 day reporting from the time they removed it from mothballs about five years ago. My first extension officer on extension desk sent me up to 90 day reporting room here in Bangkok to try and report - that room refused to accept as it was a few weeks early. While I was gone she told wife they would probably say no but worth a try. Unfortunately I did not know that when asking and went through three levels before leaving without it (thinking I was going to be in trouble with extension desk).

[BWPattaya]

There have been many reports on Thaivisa of people who have renewed an extension then forgot to do their 90 day report on time because they thought that the 90 day period starts again from the date of the extension renewal. So, 90 day reports are often out of sync with visa/extension dates. So, in this case the immigration officer was wrong. However, when you pointed it out he would have lost face as you mentioned that he had made a mistake. Just go and do it on the date it says on the form and hope they do it right next time.

[Tywais]

I just went through this recently at Chiang Mai immigration. My extension expires on Sept. 30 and my 90 day on Sept 8. Went in to do the 90 day report a couple of weeks ago and it was stamped for Sept 30 and another stamp saying Visa Expires Sept 30.

Went in last Thursday to get my annual extension for work and the officer that handled my extension marked out the dates and put the new date of expiration of 90 days from when I reported a couple of weeks ago, in other words the appropriate 90 days in total. It was not necessary to fill in a new TM47 nor queue again for this.

So, sounds like a directive has came down to do it this way as it has happened in Khon Kaen also. Ended up not being of any inconvenience as it was handled directly with the extension.

[TerryLH]

"Is this normal?"

My recent experience is that this is now normal in KK.

[Lite Beer]

When applying for my 12 month Extension in March (Khon Kaen) the officer processed my 90 day report even though it was a month early.

Maybe trying to get it in sinc.

[Thules]

Why would you think an immigration officer would give you a reporting date beyond the expiry date of your current visa ? I'm missing the plot here, but doesn't it just make sense to synchronise the reporting date with a new (yearly) visa ? Otherwise, if you didn't get the same type of visa, you would never the less be having to make some sort of potentially inappropriate '90 day report' ?

Educate me please

[lopburi3]

The report is being in Thailand for 90 days and has nothing to do with any visa or extension of stay. You are required to report every 90 days if you do not leave Thailand.

[Thules]

Fair enough Lopburi3, I will bow to your far greater knowledge, but, why in your opinion was OP only given 29 'reporting' days to match the expiry date of his visa ?

[Pib]

Why would you think an immigration officer would give you a reporting date beyond the expiry date of your current visa ? I'm missing the plot here, but doesn't it just make sense to synchronise the reporting date with a new (yearly) visa ? Otherwise, if you didn't get the same type of visa, you would never the less be having to make some sort of potentially inappropriate '90 day report' ?

Educate me please

The expiration of a visa/extension of stay and the 90 day reporting are completely separate issues.

Using a yearly extension of stay example, it can be common that the 90 day address report you make around the 9 month point will end up giving you a next 90 day reporting date that is pass the expiration of your yearly extension of stay. If fact, that has happened to me since I sometimes report pass the exact 90 day point, but within the 7 days plus or minus window. I do my 90 day reporting in Bangkok. The Bangkok immigration office has never adjusted/changed my next 90 day reporting due date due to my yearly extension of stay. Can't say why Khon Kaen would do something different in the OP's case.

[metisdead]

Why would you think an immigration officer would give you a reporting date beyond the expiry date of your current visa ? I'm missing the plot here, but doesn't it just make sense to synchronise the reporting date with a new (yearly) visa ? Otherwise, if you didn't get the same type of visa, you would never the less be having to make some sort of potentially inappropriate '90 day report' ?

Educate me please

That's what I thought as well, to clarify my earlier post.

[Tropicalevo]

Amazing Thailand.

Here we have a dozen or so points of view - some contradictory.

However, the only person that you need to impress is the guy or girl that you meet on your next reporting day.

You can take the moral high ground and say that the person who filled in the date on the slip last time was wrong, but does that help your case?

I have found it easier to go when they tell me to, and then do the "Sorry - I was not sure which date because....... so I have come now so as not to make a mistake. Can you help me please?"

I find that the person that I talk to is usually quite helpful then.

[tijnebijn]

yes it seems normal now , they did it to me also , had 60 days or so waiting for my approval of extension , and they stamped the reporting on the date of me having to come back that day , I think its more confusing cause some might get a surprise when not checkingyour next reporting date , I hope one day they come a saint new poilice commander to get rid of this reporting once and for all .

Anyways when I did get my extension I saw they stamped my until ...date to renew my visa was about 20 days earlier then it should be , the officers at the desk got a bit annoyed of me but I friendly pointed out and showed them that my previous dates were 20 days later every year , they got confused , got the lady to me who handles extensions ans she saw immediately it was wrong . I saw my name with about 20 other names on a list given to them from Bangkok which was dated on the same day my new extension expiry date was given , which was more then 20 days earlier then it should be , the lady told me she will contact the headquarters , kept my passport for the day and come back later , she changed the date where it should be , not that it is a worrie so much , but 20 days is 20 days .

Anyways that list I got a look at was interesting , cause I had to wait 60 days instead of 30 days to wait for approval , which before was only for the first application , but I'm on my third , the date on the list was the exact date I went early of my last month of application on the 16th , so don't know they just made the mistake to get my name on that list or it should have been the 60 days after the date of appl or the date they gave the approval in headquarters , but it got wrong somewhere.

Happy i sorted it out , if I didn't I might got in trouble to season my money in time for the next extension ....

Just look very well at the dates , they seem to get it wrong more and more lately , all this was at Chiangmai imm .But they are people too , mistakes happen thats why you should check the dates accordingly before walking away .

[Tywais]

Just look very well at the dates , they seem to get it wrong more and more lately , all this was at Chiangmai imm .But they are people too , mistakes happen thats why you should check the dates accordingly before walking away .

After I posted my experience above I ran my report dates through a day calculator and it comes out to 72 days and not 90, so 18 days short of what it should be. Not sure its worth the hassle though of going back and trying to have it corrected. Chiang Mai immigration also. In my case the 90 day report was initially stamped for 3 weeks, the date my extension expired.

One thing though is the last officer to stamp the extension very specifically pointed out the extension day and year to me so I couldn't miss checking the date was correct on it.

[phutoie2]

Why would you think an immigration officer would give you a reporting date beyond the expiry date of your current visa ? I'm missing the plot here, but doesn't it just make sense to synchronise the reporting date with a new (yearly) visa ? Otherwise, if you didn't get the same type of visa, you would never the less be having to make some sort of potentially inappropriate '90 day report' ?

Educate me please

That's what I thought as well, to clarify my earlier post.

What are you talking about??, a new yearly visa??. When your visa is about to expire you apply for an extension of temporary stay in the Kingdom!, my visa expired in 2006 and I have been on extensions ever since. Staying longer for 90 days reporting and extension dates are not connected.

[metisdead]

Why would you think an immigration officer would give you a reporting date beyond the expiry date of your current visa ? I'm missing the plot here, but doesn't it just make sense to synchronise the reporting date with a new (yearly) visa ? Otherwise, if you didn't get the same type of visa, you would never the less be having to make some sort of potentially inappropriate '90 day report' ?

Educate me please

That's what I thought as well, to clarify my earlier post.

What are you talking about??, a new yearly visa??. When your visa is about to expire you apply for an extension of temporary stay in the Kingdom!, my visa expired in 2006 and I have been on extensions ever since. Staying longer for 90 days reporting and extension dates are not connected.

As the OP stated:

He said 26th October was when my visa expired and he would not give me a reporting date past then.

Perhaps the OP has the terms extension of stay and visa mixed up.

[Bangkokhatter]

Amazing Thailand.

Here we have a dozen or so points of view - some contradictory.

However, the only person that you need to impress is the guy or girl that you meet on your next reporting day.

You can take the moral high ground and say that the person who filled in the date on the slip last time was wrong, but does that help your case?

I have found it easier to go when they tell me to, and then do the "Sorry - I was not sure which date because....... so I have come now so as not to make a mistake. Can you help me please?"

I find that the person that I talk to is usually quite helpful then.

[bino]

My extension of stay expired on 15 Sept, and my 90 day report was due on 14th. The 90 day report officers commented on the fact that my stay expired the next day. I told them that my next yearly extension was being processed- I'd just finished dealing with that before walking over to the other side of the Chaeng Wattana office to do the report.

My next report date is 14 December.

So unless something has changed in the last 2 weeks, Lopburi's always sage advice is spot-on.

[Bangkokhatter]

I have to use the immigration office in Samutprakarn and my HR lady at work thought it would be a good idea to synchronise the 90 day and visa renewal but it just does not work and seems to confuse both us and the people who work at immigration. I lost nearly 2 months on visa extension in her attempt and as i later went to Malaysia for some work it put everything out of synch anyway.

It's right that the 90 day and visa extension are not connected, but they should do something about people with work permits having to report every 90 days. Now i'm due to report mid November and renewal is late Dec and await the HR lady to connect the 2 again

[mca]

A couple of weeks ago in KK when I did my marriage extension the officer gave me an "under consideration" stamp until Nov 7th and simply crossed out the date on the 90 day reporting slip in my passport ( due Sept 28th ) and stamped that as Nov 7th as well.

[silverhawk_usa]

I can't see where there is any way in syncing the 90 day report with your visa extension unless you never travel outside Thailand. If you leave, the 90 day starts counting again upon your return so it is instantly out of "sync".

My last 90 report was due a few weeks prior to my visa extension expiration. I chose to renew the visa extension and the 90 day extension on the same day. No problem. In fact the person handling my visa extension (1 year) did it for me. I just had to get the new visa stamp in my passport first and then make a copy of the new stamp to submit with the 90 day report. (Chiang Mai),