yellow1red1 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 now looking forward to when Duty Free shops contract is open for new bids ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
personchester Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Absolutely incredible story, how ever can it be allowed Allowed ? - of course not, the police a negotiating in order to prevent potential shooting / killing which can easily take place, what will happen to them after the have surrendered is a different matter, and impossible to predict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereIAm Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I'd wait and see what really happened before assuming that what happened is what was reported. Best post so far ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkworker Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 It is my understanding that they were military brought by a military officer but, that has not be substantiated as far as I know. With that said, I have to wonder why we need to guess about the facts, why there are no facts, why there is no coverage. In the west, if this happened, yes there would be bloodshed because you don't do that. If you do, then it's a serious matter. There are laws in place exactly for this. Laws need to be enforced or rescinded. Here laws are in place for looks, a facade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastitche Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Without knowing the full facts its difficult to argue the rights and wrongs of this incident. If the former owners of the Contract are refusing to give up their concession? then its yet more bad news for the Thai Tourist Industry. On the other hand if the new owners of the Contract,are making sure that they are taking over the Contract(with the legalities in place) and no if or buts,then that puts a different light on the matter. The news that the disputed Car Park is now open again,would possibly indicate the latter,albeit with the 40 armed men in Black, still present. Either way,its a strange intensive way to do business. This is the first sensible post that I have seen. There seems to be a selective amnesia amongst members that where we came from "security firms" operate in much the same way because they are run by mafia/gangsters and these enterprises are necessary to launder money from illegal sources. I doubt that this apparently unconfirmed report of "armed men" means firearms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokay Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I can't find any other news about this. It seems it would be a big deal if armed men were at the airport, even if it was only in a parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereIAm Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 What was the Godfather trilogy all about ? How a lot of American business is run behind the scenes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastitche Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 It seems to me that there is a tendency on this website to assail Thailand for its inability to do what you think is appropriate no matter what the subject is and to castigate the police for inaction. What would you have them do in a situation where there is a dispute between a losing and a winning concessionary? There is no confirmation that these "men in black" (a phrase which appears to be a red rag to a bull to some people) are in fact armed and the response that they should be "taken out" is juvenile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetaroi Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 (edited) What's pathetic about this is not that it happened, but that so many posters say something along the lines of "This is Thailand." More and more -- particularly since recent political events -- I've come to the conclusion that when you come right down to it, Thailand is a relatively lawless country. Shoot-outs on the expressway, seizures of the airport, thirty-some-odd buildings torched in a political dispute, hand grenades used on a fairly regular basis, and continual bloodshed (including beheadings) in the deep south...this is the third world nearly at its worst. Edited October 1, 2010 by phetaroi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 More and more it seems like the differences between Thailand and Somalia are merely where they happened to be located on a map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Breaking News from the Nation The Airports of Thailand (AOT) will take stringent measures to avoid incidents such as protests or conflicts at the airport so the operations are smooth and passengers easily facilitated. Passengers were inconvenienced early yesterday morning because they were unable to access the carpark in towers II and III. The carparks were taken over by 100 men in black, who stopped staff from doling out tickets and prohibited them from letting any cars out. By 7am, both carparks resumed operations after the Suvarnabhumi Airport administration and the parking management settled the problem. AOT has filed a police complaint to ensure security of the airport, though the country's image has already been damaged in the eyes of the visitors. Flying Officer Narong Thanutchangseang, deputy director for operation of the Suvarnbhumi Airport, said the company had called a meeting with the carpark operator on October 11. At the meeting, AOT will discuss whether it should extend the contract with the parking firm and whether it should demand that the services be improved. <b>By Watcharapong Thongrung<br style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: none; text-decoration: none; ">The Nation<br style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; list-style-type: none; text-decoration: none; ">Published on October 2, 2010</b> Now its 100 men in black and no mention of arms being carried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 It seems to me that there is a tendency on this website to assail Thailand for its inability to do what you think is appropriate no matter what the subject is and to castigate the police for inaction. What would you have them do in a situation where there is a dispute between a losing and a winning concessionary? There is no confirmation that these "men in black" (a phrase which appears to be a red rag to a bull to some people) are in fact armed and the response that they should be "taken out" is juvenile Post #25 of "Thailand today" was Zone 2 Parking Lot at Airport Closed off by Armed Men Admittedly, fire-arms are not mentioned. But given a SoE is in place, it is a ridiculous thing to do in response to a trivial legal dispute. IMHO all involved should have been arrested and penalised heavily, including the person who hired them. Of course if arrest is resisted, an escalation could occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max4243 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Is it not illegal to carry firearms in Thailand? Not if you have the proper connections All MP here are allowed to carry guns and the Government even gave them a discount if they purchased from the Government armoury. For others, true, if you have the proper connection, getting a license to carry one is as easy as ABC. Then there are those that don't even need a license at all. In other countries, the SWAT team would be called in, but here, the police talk peace with these 40 armed men. I thought SOE rule is in force in Bangkok? The CRES should call in the army and their snipers instead of the police. Armed men in BLACK (sound very familiar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBSBoy Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 BANG! 39, BANG 38, BANG, BANG, BANG 35, ETC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkworker Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 It is not what was done, but what was not done. The impact of what was not done indicates that you can do what ever you wish with relative impunity. The word 'Thailand' means land of the free. It appears that this is being taken literally from an individual stance. I can do whatever I wish even if if is against what you wish, even if what you wish is legal. Being legal is an entirely new can of worms though. Legal tends to mean I paid more tea money than you have. With that said I am not implying that this is the case here as I do not know what the case is here. It is important that Thailand creates laws that reflect it's culture, not mine, so I do not have to understand why a law is made. My problem is in understanding a law and the accountability attached to it. I sometimes feel that there is different levels of accountability here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMSOBAD Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 LOS Laws On Sabbatical seems Thais can do anything illegal and get away with it. Farang blinks and its 400 baht/jail/deported. This is 100 percent the Land of Just-us... Not Justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I'd wait and see what really happened before assuming that what happened is what was reported. Sensible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 (edited) drastic action for sure, but id the courts were any use people respected the law, then the people having just lost the concession would have vacated as per their contract, it is a sad state of affairs when someone has to behave this way in order to be allowed to fulfil a contract comment/question withdrawn as further posts gave me answers. Thank you Edited October 1, 2010 by rametindallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 It will all boil down to the root of all evil. Money! There is nothing evil about money. How would we manage our lives without it? How would you pay for you food, clothes, etc? To say "Money is the root of all evil" is very different from saying "Money is evil". The first expression is saying that if you examine evil you will find money at its root. It doesn't mean that all money and its uses are evil, but simply that evil is fuelled by money. If you say for example that "matches are at the root of most forest fires" it doesn't negate the value of matches. 1 Timothy 6:10 New International Version (©1984) For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. New Living Translation (©2007) For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows. English Standard Version (©2001) For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. New American Standard Bible (©1995) For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. http://bible.cc/1_timothy/6-10.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 (edited) Edit: found it http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/10/02/national/Men-in-black-block-carparks-in-Suvarnabhumi-30139178.html Looks like TAN got it completely wrong! Edited October 1, 2010 by monkfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Another nail in Thai tourism, how many times have we heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 And the airport security, armed with bananas attempted to quell the situation. What a bunch of primates. It does prove a point that Suvarnabhumi is just an extension of Safari World. It's a zoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceano Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Is not a real news, come on, no sign on BP or other media, and ok is Thailand but how can 40 armed man stay in the airport , also in the parking, and nobody know about or do somthing? There are also soldier armed in the BTS how cannot be in the airport? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asianrider Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Hey New Army General 40 armed men is an army. BiB are useless. Attack now General and show these thugs who is boss. Send the Manila police in - they are a bit more gun-ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougar52 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 BP is now reporting 200 armed men in Black, and the boss has until Oct 11th to sort this out. ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted October 1, 2010 Author Share Posted October 1, 2010 Men in black block carparks in Suvarnabhumi By Watcharapong Thongrung The Nation The Airports of Thailand (AOT) will take stringent measures to avoid incidents such as protests or conflicts at the airport so the operations are smooth and passengers easily facilitated. Passengers were inconvenienced early yesterday morning because they were unable to access the carpark in towers II and III. The carparks were taken over by 100 men in black, who stopped staff from doling out tickets and prohibited them from letting any cars out. By 7am, both carparks resumed operations after the Suvarnabhumi Airport administration and the parking management settled the problem. AOT has filed a police complaint to ensure security of the airport, though the country's image has already been damaged in the eyes of the visitors. Flying Officer Narong Thanutchangseang, deputy director for operation of the Suvarnbhumi Airport, said the company had called a meeting with the carpark operator on October 11. At the meeting, AOT will discuss whether it should extend the contract with the parking firm and whether it should demand that the services be improved. -- The Nation 2010-10-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulmercke Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Channel 3 has reported that nearly 200 men were involved - some carrying weapons. Saw some video of a machete that was seized from one of them. Also - it was reported that the media were discouraged by the police from taking video of those detained and others involved in this incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Edit: found it http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/10/02/national/Men-in-black-block-carparks-in-Suvarnabhumi-30139178.html Looks like TAN got it completely wrong! How do we know the Nation isn't "completely wrong?!?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 (edited) Is not a real news, come on, no sign on BP or other media, Did you miss the other media news that was posted hours before you made your post? Edited October 2, 2010 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Crazy. Heads should roll for this and somebody should be in jail...makes Thailand really look like a banana republic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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