Thai DSI Confirms Red Shirt Arms Training In Cambodia

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DSI confirms Red Shirt arms training in Cambodia

BANGKOK, Oct 11 - Thailand's Department of Special Investigation (DSI) on Monday said investigation found that 39 Thai men have been trained for arms use in Cambodia for a mission to assassinate this country's key public figures including Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

Pol-Lt Col Payao Thongsen, chief of DSI investigators probing the terrorism charge-related activities, held a news conference on the 11 men detained in the northern province of Chiang Mai.

Local police last week arrested 11 men suspected of involvement in a movement to destabilise national security and plan to kill the country's very important persons as well as overthrow the monarchy in a resort in Mae On district.

Police said they are well-trained in using firearms. They are now under witness protection scheme in exchange for useful information which could lead to an arrest of other accomplices.

Col Payao affirmed Monday the suspects confessed to being members of the anti-government movement, the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), and that they were 11 among the 39 men who were recruited and taken by Red Shirt leaders to Cambodia for arms training.

Some said they saw people using war weapons against troops in confrontation between both sides during April-May chaos, said the DSI chief investigator.

Red Shirt leaders in northern region, mainly Red Shirt disc jockeys at community radio stations, organised the meeting in three routes: the first group convened in Bangkok, leaving Thailand by way of the Chong Jom border crossing in Surin province, the second group gathered at Nakhon Ratchasima and left Thailand via Chong Jom, and the last group met at Sa Kaeo and crossed to Cambodia, according to Col Payao, adding all of them entered Cambodian territory without passing legal immigration processes.

Gen Payao elaborated that the eleven said their three-week training was held in a Cambodian army camp and they were trained by Cambodian soldiers.

The first week focused on political education but inciting anger and hatred on the monarchy while the second week was how to use military weapons and the third week was field operations training, said the DSI investigator.

The investigation also found that a map of routes leading to home of former deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban who oversees national security had been used for the training of how to carry out the assassination plot and how to deal with his security guards, said Col Payao.

The investigators chief added the 11 disclosed 35 men returned to Thailand after the training was complete, while another four were chosen by Red Shirt leader Arisman Pongruangrong to be his bodyguards while he remains in Cambodia with outstanding arrest warrants for terrorism.

Among the four men remaining in the neighbouring kingdom, one was identified as Mongkol Sarapan, with arrest warrant on terrorism charge.

Col Payao described the 35 armed men arrived Thailand August 16 and then went separate ways before reuniting again in Phufa Resort in Chiang Mai in September to be standby for the operation as asked by UDD leaders in the northern region.

For the operation plan, Col Payao said, the targets of assassination include the prime minister, deputy premier Suthep, de facto leader of coalition Bhumjaithai party Newin Chidchob and acting Police Inspector-General Pol Lt-Gen Somkid Boonthanom.

Col Payao said the arrest of the 11 men occurred as one of them, Kittichai Chansawas, escaped from the group as he was unwilling to continue in the operation anymore. Mr Kittichai sought help from local residents and then reported the matter to police.

The 11 however denied their involvement in the April-May chaos when an armed black-clad group fired at security forces during the Red Shirt protests, according to the investigator.

For the remaining armed men, Col Payao said, DSI will work with security agencies to tracking them and will seek coordination from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to contact Cambodian authorities on the case.

When asked whether Samai Wongsuwan, suspected bomb-maker who was killed last week in an explosion at Bang Bua Thong apartment, is linked with the detained armed group, Col Payao said initial investigation did not find any connection, but the 11 men conceded there was a first arms training in Cambodia before they joined the second one.

In addition to the confessions of the 11 detainees, Col Payao said, police also have other solid evidence such as phone call details between these people and Red Shirt DJs group in Cambodia and that plastic chips similar to telephone SIM cards were given to persons who passed the training. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2010-10-11

[pedro01]

This is going to be very interesting indeed...

[mightyharriss]

This is going to be very interesting indeed...

why?

[pedro01]

This is going to be very interesting indeed...

why?

errr.. because if it is true, it is an act of war

[Cuchulainn]

Vermin and scum, pure and simple. All for the sake of bringing a convicted, corrupt, power-hungry piece of sh1t back so it can line its own pockets.

[Siripon]

This is going to be very interesting indeed...

why?

Because it's going to be fun seeing how Hun Sen and Jatupon attempt to explain this one.

[pedro01]

Well - I think it's fairly obvious how Jutaporn will react to it....

"it's a set up by the government"

"it has nothing to do with us"

etc

[MaiChai]

"training in Cambodian army camp". This is going to get very interesting. Its clear to all now what the red shirts are about and Taksins relationship with the Cambodians and Hun Sen. Writing is on the wall; plain and clear for all to read.

Almost all Thai people are peace loving people. I can't think why anyone would have such hatred of the government unless they were incited to it. In my opinion the government has done the right thing all along, although they could have been much more assertive against terrorist acts. Politics is politics however there is a point where people step over the line and make it personal by trying to assassinate their opponents. Where does democracy come into it; hypocrisy by the reds?

[asiawatcher]

Some said they saw people using war weapons against troops in confrontation between both sides during April-May chaos, said the DSI chief investigator.

As Gomer Pile would say - "Surprise, surprise!!!"

And then ... Red Shirt leader Arisman Pongruangrong to be his bodyguards while he remains in Cambodia with outstanding arrest warrants for terrorism.

Whilst Hun Sen smiles in Washington/NY, shakes Abhisits hand and is plotting after seemingly agreeing to Thaksins resignation as Finance Advisor to Kampuchea. And the plot thickens....

Edited October 11, 2010 by asiawatcher

[Insight]

The rumours about receiving Khmer help were off the charts during the red shirt occupation, but ex-pats attributed it to Thais typically blaming the neighbours.

Looks like there may of been much more to it all along...

[sirchai]

Vermin and scum, pure and simple. All for the sake of bringing a convicted, corrupt, power-hungry piece of sh1t back so it can line its own pockets.

Police said they are well-trained in using firearms. They are now under witness protection scheme in exchange for useful information which could lead to an arrest of other accomplices.

There's nothing happening in Cambodia without the knowledge of Vietnam.

These guys under "witness protection" are just insane....:jap:

[YuriGuest2010]

Now the red leaders can't denied anymore since they are all related to them. All of them admitted that they are being trained to assasinate important peoples in thailand. Maybe the Party MP might denied again saying they are not reds and belong to the government peoples again. DSI must get to the root of all these evil peoples and arrested them all and put them in Jail or convicted should be sentenced to death role. Now the red party are doomed nobody will trust them anymore..

[sirchai]

This is going to be very interesting indeed...

why?

Because of the color of their shirts they'll wear..... :jap:

[tomyummer]

"The investigation also found that a map of routes leading to home of former deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban who oversees national security had been used for the training of how to carry out the assassination plot and how to deal with his security guards, said Col Payao."

Hmmmm.....we need proof. Let them go ahead and carry out the plan with Suthep first and catch them in the act.

[chantorn]

Thai Seal should fly in and shut the Cambodian school down. Just like the Rambo movies.

[britmaveric]

Sounds like more thai BS as usual.

@chantorn - As for thai seal fly in like Rambo movie? - end up not flying out Khmers would give them a right bollocking.

[hammered]

Money trail from the Nonthaburi bombing is now reprtedly going back to the PTP. Lots of explaining to be done by the opposition

[craigt3365]

I thought I read many years ago Cambodian "terrorists" trained here in Thailand and were protected by the Thai government.

Quotes:

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In 1980, under US pressure, the World Food Program handed over food worth $12 million to the Thai army to pass on to the Khmer Rouge. According to former Assistant Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke "20,000 to 40 000 Pol Pot guerrillas benefited." This aid helped restore the Khmer Rouge to a fighting force, based in Thailand, from which it de stabilized Cambodia for more than a decade.

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In the meantime, the Khmer Rouge was establishing itself as the richest terrorist group in history by selling off tracts of Cambodia's forests, as well as its precious stones, to the Thai, whose government was a signatory to the "peace accords." No one stopped them. They established four large new bases inside Thailand, complete with a field hospital. Thai soldiers guarded the road that led to them.

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I guess I can understand where they are coming from....

[valerian]

Money trail from the Nonthaburi bombing is now reprtedly going back to the PTP. Lots of explaining to be done by the opposition

Is there more information available on this money trail anywhere?

[Cnxforever]

So the DSI has no evidence at all for this fairytale?

Just what the 11 men - who nobody knows if they even exist told them?

For all we know they could all be government agents placed there and conveniently disappear in a witness protection scheme after they are "arrested".

Nobody has ever seen them - for now they remain as elusive as the 50.000 pro government protesters a few weeks ago in Udon.

The 11 men are not known to anybody and are under a witness protection scheme which officially does not exist in Thailand?

How convenient is that! How stupid does this government think people are? As long as they remain unknown without legal counsel and an independent body who confirms what they say - the government can tell us whatever they want.

If you accuse an independent country of training assassins to be used against your government you better have some hard independently verified evidence!

The police colonel in charge of the raid at the "resort" had officially confirmed after the raid that nothing illegal had been found - and those are the facts - everything else is nothing but hearsay and government fairy-tails.

Edited October 11, 2010 by Cnxforever

[pedro01]

So the DSI has no evidence at all for this fairytale?

Just what the 11 men - who nobody knows if they even exist told them?

For all we know they could all be government agents placed there and conveniently disappear in a witness protection scheme after they are "arrested".

Nobody has ever seen them - for now they remain as elusive as the 50.000 pro government protesters a few weeks ago in Udon.

The 11 men are not known to anybody and are under a witness protection scheme which officially does not exist in Thailand?

How convenient is that! How stupid does this government think people are? As long as they remain unknown without legal counsel and an independent body who confirms what they say - the government can tell us whatever they want.

If you accuse an independent country of training assassins to be used against your government you better have some hard independently verified evidence!

The police colonel in charge of the raid at the "resort" had officially confirmed after the raid that nothing illegal had been found - and those are the facts - everything else is nothing but hearsay and government fairy-tails.

What are you suggesting here ?

That the police in a more developed nation would parade the suspects and evidence to the media in order that they be believed ?

Why don't you pop down to DSI yourself and ask for a look in their files because you don't believe them. I am sure they'd be most accomodating, as would Scotland Yard, FBI, etc....

[OzMick]

So the DSI has no evidence at all for this fairytale?

Just what the 11 men - who nobody knows if they even exist told them?

For all we know they could all be government agents placed there and conveniently disappear in a witness protection scheme after they are "arrested".

Nobody has ever seen them - for now they remain as elusive as the 50.000 pro government protesters a few weeks ago in Udon.

The 11 men are not known to anybody and are under a witness protection scheme which officially does not exist in Thailand?

How convenient is that! How stupid does this government think people are? As long as they remain unknown without legal counsel and an independent body who confirms what they say - the government can tell us whatever they want.

If you accuse an independent country of training assassins to be used against your government you better have some hard independently verified evidence!

The police colonel in charge of the raid at the "resort" had officially confirmed after the raid that nothing illegal had been found - and those are the facts - everything else is nothing but hearsay and government fairy-tails.

Is that you, Jatuporn? Keep it simple "They are not Redshirts, they are not Redshirts.................................ad infinitum"

[SergeiY]

Well - I think it's fairly obvious how Jutaporn will react to it....

"it's a set up by the government"

"it has nothing to do with us"

etc

Of course, an easy guess.

I don't expect him to say 'Yes, we did it. That is all what we are up to'.

[IAMSOBAD]

Bomb Blasts Every Week

Red Shirts Invade BKK every chance to honor dead terrorists

Thaksins wife gets hundreds of millions of baht for criminal activities

Seals are invading

People are going to be assassinated

LOS smelllllllls like the Land Of Shitt

Make arrests and enforce the SOE Now!

[rubl]

The rumours about receiving Khmer help were off the charts during the red shirt occupation, but ex-pats attributed it to Thais typically blaming the neighbours.

Looks like there may of been much more to it all along...

The only rumour I remember was about Cambodian sharpshooters having been hired by the government and offered a handsome bonus for every confirmed kill (of a red shirt). There may have been other rumours, who can keep track in this country

[basjke]

So the DSI has no evidence at all for this fairytale?

Just what the 11 men - who nobody knows if they even exist told them?

For all we know they could all be government agents placed there and conveniently disappear in a witness protection scheme after they are "arrested".

Nobody has ever seen them - for now they remain as elusive as the 50.000 pro government protesters a few weeks ago in Udon.

The 11 men are not known to anybody and are under a witness protection scheme which officially does not exist in Thailand?

How convenient is that! How stupid does this government think people are? As long as they remain unknown without legal counsel and an independent body who confirms what they say - the government can tell us whatever they want.

If you accuse an independent country of training assassins to be used against your government you better have some hard independently verified evidence!

The police colonel in charge of the raid at the "resort" had officially confirmed after the raid that nothing illegal had been found - and those are the facts - everything else is nothing but hearsay and government fairy-tails.

What are you suggesting here ?

That the police in a more developed nation would parade the suspects and evidence to the media in order that they be believed ?

Why don't you pop down to DSI yourself and ask for a look in their files because you don't believe them. I am sure they'd be most accomodating, as would Scotland Yard, FBI, etc....

My idea is that in more developed country's they would either keep the arrests a secret and don't blare about in the media or if they did they would show evidence that they were talking the truth..

[Thai at Heart]

I do think that publicising this type of news is definitely more in the government's interest than the public's.

Unless stories like these can be scrutinised in a public way, they are always open to manipulation, unless coming from such a moral high point of honesty and integrity that they are beyond challenge.

I don't blame anyone for taking this type of story with a pinch of salt. Even more worrying is that it didn't come from Suthep's big mouth, and of course, no one is yet suggesting that it should be investigated with some kind of official governmental request to Cambodia.

Acts of war going unchallenged, and we are all supposed to swallow this type of info hook line and sinker?

[RKASA]

Valkyrie?

[chantorn]

Bomb Blasts Every Week

Red Shirts Invade BKK every chance to honor dead terrorists

Thaksins wife gets hundreds of millions of baht for criminal activities

Seals are invading

People are going to be assassinated

LOS smelllllllls like the Land Of Shitt

Make arrests and enforce the SOE Now!

Perhaps suicide bombing is spreading in Bangkok?

[basjke]

^ don't worry cowards don't do that.