britmaveric Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 German man discovered dead inside his Soi Beokeow Apartment. Police Sub-Lieutenant Santipon from Pattaya Police Station was called to Marine Tree Place in Soi Beokoew after staff reported a foul odor coming from one of the rooms. Inside room number 304 the badly decomposed body of Mr. Marcus Wagner aged 37 from Germany was found. Initial inspections of the body and the room suggested the man may have not been alone when he died. Around the room were many packets of condoms and lubricating jelly and also he was on medication prescribed by the Pattaya International Hospital for Insomnia. An initial theory from Police states that the man may have taken a woman from a bar and either during or after sexual intercourse he suffered a heart attack. Police are now awaiting the results of a post mortem examination and are appealing for any Thai woman who may recognize this man to come forward and assist Police with their enquiries. Representatives from the German Embassy in Bangkok are also assisting Police with this case. -Pattaya City News Tuesday 30th August 2005
rocky Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else
davethailand Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Paradise and heaven for the few and fortunate Jomtien comes under Pattaya also you know
rocky Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Paradise and heaven for the few and fortunate Jomtien comes under Pattaya also you know <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 100% Dave, You can also add an amount of Bangkok to my statement.... In fact anywhere in Thailand where farangs stay
Pattaya_Fox Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Sounds as though he probably died `on the job` so to speak, now if he was smoking a good cigar and drinking a fine champagne some would say that was a heavenly way to go to paradise.
rocky Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Sounds as though he probably died `on the job` so to speak, now if he was smoking a good cigar and drinking a fine champagne some would say that was a heavenly way to go to paradise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A foolish way to go to h e l l
Pattaya_Fox Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Sounds as though he probably died `on the job` so to speak, now if he was smoking a good cigar and drinking a fine champagne some would say that was a heavenly way to go to paradise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A foolish way to go to h e l l <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How do you know he went to h*ell....he may well be smiling down on you Or do you mean that you are celibate a non smoker and a teetotal.?
Thaipwriter Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 German man discovered dead inside his Soi Beokeow Apartment. Police Sub-Lieutenant Santipon from Pattaya Police Station was called to Marine Tree Place in Soi Beokoew after staff reported a foul odor coming from one of the rooms. Inside room number 304 the badly decomposed body of Mr. Marcus Wagner aged 37 from Germany was found. a foul odor coming from German sex tourists room??? nothing unusual with that! How on earth did they know he was dead?
mrbojangles Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else Paradise and heaven for the few and fortunate Jomtien comes under Pattaya also you know Dave, Rocky can't even spell Jomtien
syd barrett Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Perhaps a ladyman drugged his drink and he died and he/she robbed his place. 37 is too young to die, with condoms and lubricants at the ready. I think the lubricant might be the clue here. The pills prescribed for insomnia will probably be benzodiazipines which when mixed with alcohol amplify GABA inhibitors; death from asphixiation of inhaled vomit is a possibility; I doubt the MI hypothosis.
Khun Larry Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 As usual in Pattaya, something is very fishy about this young mans death. Pattaya is a dangerous place.
davethailand Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 As usual in Pattaya, something is very fishy about this young mans death.Pattaya is a dangerous place. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No more than BKK. Phuket etc etc.
wrestler7902002 Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Many times, when a farang is found dead in Pattaya, it is usually flying from a condo building. RIP
pedro01 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Paradise and heaven for the few and fortunate Jomtien comes under Pattaya also you know <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 100% Dave, You can also add an amount of Bangkok to my statement.... In fact anywhere in Thailand where farangs stay <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So Rocky - are you a farang or not ?
rocky Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Paradise and heaven for the few and fortunate Jomtien comes under Pattaya also you know <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 100% Dave, You can also add an amount of Bangkok to my statement.... In fact anywhere in Thailand where farangs stay <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So Rocky - are you a farang or not ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Farang,
pedro01 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Paradise and heaven for the few and fortunate Jomtien comes under Pattaya also you know <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 100% Dave, You can also add an amount of Bangkok to my statement.... In fact anywhere in Thailand where farangs stay <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So Rocky - are you a farang or not ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Farang, <{POST_SNAPBACK}> let me get this right - you are a farang, living in Thailand & you think that any place in Thailand where farangs stay is a shithole ?
chico Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 a foul odor coming from German sex tourists room??? nothing unusual with that! How on earth did they know he was dead? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it seems you've got a lot of experience with german sex tourists?!!
chico Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 let me get this right - you are a farang, living in Thailand & you think that any place in Thailand where farangs stay is a shithole ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> maye he just means the places where he stays after he's been there?!
rocky Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 To answer your question I am a farang I spend a lot of time in Thailand and enjoy it very much. I dont believe anywhere farangs go is a shit hole. Infact I believe the opposite I believe the farang places are very nice indeed. What I do believe is that most of the long term guys in Thailand are bored broke and lonely, based on people I have met there and spoke to over the last 6 years. Thailand is Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else Next time you are in a gogo bar look at the men sitting there, most look bored and lonely, only a few look like they are having a good time
chico Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 To answer your questionI am a farang I spend a lot of time in Thailand and enjoy it very much. I dont believe anywhere farangs go is a shit hole. Infact I believe the opposite I believe the farang places are very nice indeed. What I do believe is that most of the long term guys in Thailand are bored broke and lonely, based on people I have met there and spoke to over the last 6 years. Thailand is Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else Next time you are in a gogo bar look at the men sitting there, most look bored and lonely, only a few look like they are having a good time <{POST_SNAPBACK}> to you ever read what you write and think about it? talking about long term guys and comparing them with gogo visitors just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about, and probably never ever met a long term guy you don't find them in "your shithole places", they are only for you and your buddies! long term guys either work (mostly around Bkk) or live somewher countryside, they have wifes or longterm relationships! they are not the "bartypes" like you and your buddies!
rocky Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 German man discovered dead inside his Soi Beokeow Apartment I dont think this man found himself in paradise I am not sudgesting that any Farang is living in a shit hole, I am sugdesting that people may not be in the paradise they where looking for. Suicide death murder, going broke, lonely, being fleeced of every last penny, I also say heaven for the few, no doubt you are one of the few. Relax man,
Humphrey Bear Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 talking about long term guys and comparing them with gogo visitors just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about, and probably never ever met a long term guy you don't find them in "your shithole places", they are only for you and your buddies! long term guys either work (mostly around Bkk) or live somewher countryside, they have wifes or longterm relationships! they are not the "bartypes" like you and your buddies! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Around Soi Buakaow there are many 'long-term' men who are found every night in the bars and go-gos. They may not be permanent residents, but here for six months or more at a stretch. Some doing their redundancy money, some work on the rigs or other oil-related jobs. If the latter, they are used to someone cleaning up after them, so may live in a pigsty over here. Not everyone wants the same life style. Live and let live.
Thaipwriter Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 a foul odor coming from German sex tourists room???nothing unusual with that! How on earth did they know he was dead? it seems you've got a lot of experience with german sex tourists?!! err, umm, what me?? !! no Chico...it was only a cheap gag done in poor taste and I apologise for that...couldn't help myself at the time though
pedro01 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 To answer your questionI am a farang I spend a lot of time in Thailand and enjoy it very much. I dont believe anywhere farangs go is a shit hole. Infact I believe the opposite I believe the farang places are very nice indeed. What I do believe is that most of the long term guys in Thailand are bored broke and lonely, based on people I have met there and spoke to over the last 6 years. Thailand is Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else Next time you are in a gogo bar look at the men sitting there, most look bored and lonely, only a few look like they are having a good time <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Go-go bars ? I rarely frequent them & then only when a mate comes over from the UK. I certainly don't bother introducing myself to strangers in them. I am enjoying life here - great wife & kid, a few houses, nice car & I manage to save 80% of my salary. Early retirement is guaranteed if nothing changes... The majority of my friends here are professional expats on good packages or running their own businesses. These are the types of people I meet at places where I regularly hang out. As I'm in Bangkok & in my mid-30's I meet people mostly in the English/Irish pubs, hotel bars, occasional concerts, social events, house parties, the gym etc. The kind of places where regular people would go back home. I think the people you are referring to also keep to their own territory of gogo bars, whorehouses etc. I have heard many stories of people coming out here & spending the proceeds of house, redundancy etc. Mostly on women. Can't say I have much sympathy. If you are meeting people in whorehouses, you shouldn't expect too many high-flyers.... Where I go, it's regular guys & girls enjoying life that are in the majority. So - I can't agree with the "few and fortunate" part...
Khun Larry Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 To answer your questionI am a farang I spend a lot of time in Thailand and enjoy it very much. I dont believe anywhere farangs go is a shit hole. Infact I believe the opposite I believe the farang places are very nice indeed. What I do believe is that most of the long term guys in Thailand are bored broke and lonely, based on people I have met there and spoke to over the last 6 years. Thailand is Paradise for the fool, Heaven for the few and fortunate and a shithole for everyone else Next time you are in a gogo bar look at the men sitting there, most look bored and lonely, only a few look like they are having a good time <{POST_SNAPBACK}> to you ever read what you write and think about it? talking about long term guys and comparing them with gogo visitors just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about, and probably never ever met a long term guy you don't find them in "your shithole places", they are only for you and your buddies! long term guys either work (mostly around Bkk) or live somewher countryside, they have wifes or longterm relationships! they are not the "bartypes" like you and your buddies! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think Rocky has the "high moral ground" here. if that is possible, or at least I have to agree with him. Although there are some "normal Joe" types with real jobs in BKK most are eccentric expats on the fringe or sexpats scraping by. I much enjoy this expat comradery. Pattaya is as Rocky describes, long timers are primarily low life. To be fair, from a cleanliness perspective, the whole Country is a filthy mess, aka shithole, as that is how Thais choose to live. I notice it is the Thais throwing their shit on the ground not the Farangs. Depending on your vantage point you may or may not be aware of any of these obvious points.
poppa Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 how can anyone live long term in soi buakhao ? now that is a shit hole i think its as bad as the soi country club estates if not worse .
Pattaya_Fox Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 how can anyone live long term in soi buakhao ? now that is a shit hole i think its as bad as the soi country club estates if not worse . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What you consider to be a s*hit hole may well be considerd by people who live there to be fine and provide everything that they need.
poppa Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 how can anyone live long term in soi buakhao ? now that is a shit hole i think its as bad as the soi country club estates if not worse . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What you consider to be a s*hit hole may well be considerd by people who live there to be fine and provide everything that they need. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so i take it thats where you live ??????????????????????????????
britmaveric Posted September 9, 2005 Author Posted September 9, 2005 German dies after a sexual liaison Unknown lady involved steals all his valuables – has the nipple gang returned? A German tourist who died during a sexual liaison lay undiscovered in his hotel room for at least two days before a hotel employee complained to police of a bad smell emanating from the room. Responding to a call on August 30 from Miss Mai Pohthaisong, a receptionist at a hotel on Soi Buakao, police entered the 4th floor room where they found the dead body of Ulf Markus Wagner, a 37-year-old German national, laying on his back and in a state of putrefaction. They estimated that he had been dead for at least two days. There was no trace of any injuries, but there was blood on his mouth and nose and his tongue was blocking his air passage. His penis was swollen and covered in semen. Police sent the corpse to medical authorities for an autopsy. Checking the room, the officers found a woman’s slip beside the bed, two KY tubes, one of which had been used, and a lot of condoms on the table beside the bed and on the dressing table. One foreign witness made a statement to the police that before his death, Wagner was often seen in the company of different Thai ladies and was visited in his room every night, when he made a lot of noise. The witness had complained about it often. He said that three days ago at about 2 a.m. he saw a lady came out of the dead man’s room and hurry away. Mai, the receptionist, said that Wagner had checked in on August 3 and deposited his properties in a safety deposit box. She didn’t have the key and the police could not find it in the room. However, the box was found to be unlocked and empty. Police surmise that the cause of death was choking following a sexual liaison and that the female involved had panicked, taking his property with her before locking the door and going away. -Pattaya Mail Boonlua Chatree 9 Sept 2005
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