Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn To Reveal 'Solid Evidence' Of Abhisit's UK Citizenship

[webfact]

Red shirts to reveal 'solid evidence' of Abhisit's UK citizenship

By THE NATION

Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan said the highlight of today's demonstration would be a revelation about Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva's alleged British nationality.

Jatuporn said this would set the stage for the upcoming censure debate in Parliament.

Police meanwhile will deploy more than 1,000 officers in three locations to be visited by red shirts, including Ratchaprasong intersection and Democracy Monument.

The red shirts will first converge at Ratchaprasong at 1pm before marching to Democracy Monument via Phetchaburi Road in the Pratunam area. They will also pay a visit to the old Supreme Court building, where police will also be deployed.

Jatuporn claims he has solid evidence that Abhisit, who was born in Newcastle, England, holds British citizenship because he has not renounced it.

Thus Abhisit would be subject to being tried by the International Criminal Court for alleged crimes against humanity as a result of the deadly red-shirt crackdown in April and May last year. Thailand has not ratified membership of the ICC, while the United Kingdom has.

Police have urged red-shirt leaders to ensure there will be no anti-monarchy messages or graffiti painted at the protest sites.

Police also called on the leaders to keep their eyes open for possible provocateurs.

Jatuporn said the red shirts would not gather at Ratchaprasong for much more than an hour before moving to the Supreme Court to read a letter of consolation to their jailed leaders. They will then end the protest shortly after midnight at Democracy Monument.

On Monday, the Criminal Court will consider the bail applications by seven red-shirt leaders.

According to Jatuporn, some sources say only two detained leaders may be granted bail, as they are considered more moderate than the others. If that is the case, said Jatuporn, he will volunteer to be put in jail too, as denial of bail would not be fair.

If there is no progress on the matter, red shirts will demonstrate in front of the court again on March 12.

In a related development, police denied that they were prepared to use Chinese-made tear gas to disperse the yellow-shirt People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD), which has been warned to end its occupation of streets around Government House.

The Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) said anti-riot police would be equipped only with US-made tear gas and the canisters, if used at all, would be thrown manually at yellow-shirt protesters and not fired.

The PAD regards Chinese-made tear gas as a potentially deadly weapon.

-- The Nation 2011-02-19

[Buchholz]

Jatuporn, he will volunteer to be put in jail too

:clap2:

[barka]

Get ready...the election is looming..the pencils are sharpened PM ABISIHIT ..Beware...its time for the Dirty Dancing,,,Good Luck..you wil need it...the reds and yellows are getting there guns loaded..ready for the action..just like the old cowboy movies.

[jonclark]

Hang on a minute, if Abbhisit still holds UK Citizenship (or duel citizenship). Does that mean there's a Brit in charge of running Thailand?? Surely that can't be correct. Foreigners (which Brits are, like all the white skinned devils here) can't own land, but can run the country?? I thought you had to be a full on 100% Thai national with a degree just to be able to get registered as a politician in a political party to run in local elections.

[timekeeper]

Jatuporn, he will volunteer to be put in jail too

:clap2:

the sooner the better..........

[hardy1943]

Hang on a minute, if Abbhisit still holds UK Citizenship (or duel citizenship). Does that mean there's a Brit in charge of running Thailand?? Surely that can't be correct. Foreigners (which Brits are, like all the white skinned devils here) can't own land, but can run the country?? I thought you had to be a full on 100% Thai national with a degree just to be able to get registered as a politician in a political party to run in local elections.

[/quote

Nothing really new, he is not Thai anyway but Chinese and just of the few elite Chinese that been running Thailand and hold most of the wealth and have a trickle down effect to the native Thais.

[jackr]

According to Jatuporn, some sources say only two detained leaders may be granted bail, as they are considered more moderate than the others. If that is the case, said Jatuporn, he will volunteer to be put in jail too, as denial of bail would not be fair.

Throw the perp in with general pop.

[Thailand]

Nothing really new, he is not Thai anyway but Chinese and just of the few elite Chinese that been running Thailand and hold most of the wealth and have a trickle down effect to the native Thais.

Don't you mean he is a Thai of Chinese ancestry as most of the Hi So's, businessmen, politicians etc here are?

[Phuket Stan]

Where did the native Thai people come from in the first instance

[stevehaigh]

'crimes against humanity'!

the man did everything possible to stop the loss of life and keep everything peaceful. its the red shirt leaders that are responsible for the blood.

[Robby nz]

Jatuporn, he will volunteer to be put in jail too

:clap2:

He has had the opportunity many times before but has gone cap in hand to demand ask for bail.

Another "I'll believe it when I see it"

Wouldnt think they would really want to get to the ICC for then all the evidence against them, faithfully recorded on video, would come out for the whole world to see.

Wonder what the ICC would make of a young child being put on top of a barracade as a target for the army with his (presumably) father with his head well down grinning and thinking what a bloody hero he was.

[backfromouterspace]

Bangkok Pundit did a piece on this a week ago. As Abhisit was born in the UK and his parents werent diplomats then he is a British citizen, whether he likes it or not. No proof anywhere that he has ever revoked his citizenship. He has never denied it, except to say he paid overseas student fees when he studied at Oxford Uni. ( But this doesnt mean he isnt UK citizen, just that he didnt live permanently in the UK.)

No Thai journalists are going to start bringing up the subject of where their leaders were born and whether they are still citizens of the UK or USA.

[bubba]

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Nothing really new, he is not Thai anyway but Chinese and just of the few elite Chinese that been running Thailand and hold most of the wealth and have a trickle down effect to the native Thais.

So if you want to use race and ethnic origin as a prejudicial argument against Abhisit, do you also recognise Thaksin's Chinese ethnicity and wealthy, elite family upbringing?

Just curious: you're not a card-holding BNP member are you?

[jonclark]

Nothing really new, he is not Thai anyway but Chinese and just of the few elite Chinese that been running Thailand and hold most of the wealth and have a trickle down effect to the native Thais.

Don't you mean he is a Thai of Chinese ancestry as most of the Hi So's, businessmen, politicians etc here are?

According to the article Jatuporn claims he's possibly British!! or Thai-sino-British!! Arrrgh it all gets so confusing!!

[Buchholz]

Nothing really new, he is not Thai anyway but Chinese and just of the few elite Chinese that been running Thailand and hold most of the wealth and have a trickle down effect to the native Thais.

So, he's part of the original Thais:

The People of Thailand

The origin of the Thai people is rather vague, but scholars believe migrations occurred from the Chinese province of Szechwan around the 1st century AD.

[Buchholz]

Where did the native Thai people come from in the first instance

China

[taff33]

'crimes against humanity'!

the man did everything possible to stop the loss of life and keep everything peaceful. its the red shirt leaders that are responsible for the blood.

Yeah right, they shot they're self just to get thier 15 minutes of fame. :cheesy: :jerk:

[jonclark]

Bangkok Pundit did a piece on this a week ago. As Abhisit was born in the UK and his parents werent diplomats then he is a British citizen, whether he likes it or not. No proof anywhere that he has ever revoked his citizenship. He has never denied it, except to say he paid overseas student fees when he studied at Oxford Uni. ( But this doesnt mean he isnt UK citizen, just that he didnt live permanently in the UK.)

No Thai journalists are going to start bringing up the subject of where their leaders were born and whether they are still citizens of the UK or USA.

So a British citizen can become a politician in Thailand -Where do i sign up!!!

[alant]

Bangkok Pundit did a piece on this a week ago. As Abhisit was born in the UK and his parents werent diplomats then he is a British citizen, whether he likes it or not. No proof anywhere that he has ever revoked his citizenship. He has never denied it, except to say he paid overseas student fees when he studied at Oxford Uni. ( But this doesnt mean he isnt UK citizen, just that he didnt live permanently in the UK.)

No Thai journalists are going to start bringing up the subject of where their leaders were born and whether they are still citizens of the UK or USA.

and he didn't have a Thai education, shocked.

ps is my comment all right or does it fall foul of TV rules, can we talk about Thai leaders?

[Buchholz]

Bangkok Pundit did a piece on this a week ago. As Abhisit was born in the UK and his parents werent diplomats then he is a British citizen, whether he likes it or not. No proof anywhere that he has ever revoked his citizenship. He has never denied it

Does Bangkok Pundit have access to Google?

Abhisit denied this later, saying he was not a UK citizen.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Lawyer-files-case-with-ICC-over-red-shirts-30147636.html

If Abhisit is British, a claim he denies, attorneys hired by his wealthiest political opponent claim he can be tried for “crimes against humanity” in International Criminal Courts.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/thailand/110211/prime-minister-abhisit-vejjajiva-british-citizenship

Edited February 19, 2011 by Buchholz

[brahmburgers]

Does that mean he's also 10 points down on the maturity development index?

I transferred from US school system to the British school system when I was mid-teens. Sorry to say, it felt like I was stuck with a group of 10 year olds.

[rwhoov]

My God! The birthers have moved to Thailand!! Hasn't worked on Obama; doubt if it will work here.

[geovalin]

Nothing really new, he is not Thai anyway but Chinese and just of the few elite Chinese that been running Thailand and hold most of the wealth and have a trickle down effect to the native Thais.

A Chinese British or a British Chinese? Kinda Hong Kong.

Not really Isan...

[Capealava]

Jatuporn, he will volunteer to be put in jail too

:clap2:

:sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: :boring:

[Thailand]

Does that mean he's also 10 points down on the maturity development index?

I transferred from US school system to the British school system when I was mid-teens. Sorry to say, it felt like I was stuck with a group of 10 year olds.

Mid teens I had left school in the UK and joined the Fleet Air Arm, perhaps you were with 10 year olds and nobody told you?

[Buchholz]

[/quote

Nothing really new, he is not Thai anyway but Chinese and just of the few elite Chinese that been running Thailand and hold most of the wealth and have a trickle down effect to the native Thais.

So if you want to use race and ethnic origin as a prejudicial argument against Abhisit, do you also recognise Thaksin's Chinese ethnicity and wealthy, elite family upbringing?

I thought he was a mix of Central American

and Eastern European

[neilf]

Hang on a minute, if Abbhisit still holds UK Citizenship (or duel citizenship). Does that mean there's a Brit in charge of running Thailand?? Surely that can't be correct. Foreigners (which Brits are, like all the white skinned devils here) can't own land, but can run the country?? I thought you had to be a full on 100% Thai national with a degree just to be able to get registered as a politician in a political party to run in local elections.

Hang on does that mean the pm needs a work permit

[Macmundi]

Tell Jatuporno to shut that hole in his face and go back and sit in the slammer where he belongs.

[TheyCallmeScooter]

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Hang on a minute, if Abbhisit still holds UK Citizenship (or duel citizenship). Does that mean there's a Brit in charge of running Thailand?? Surely that can't be correct. Foreigners (which Brits are, like all the white skinned devils here) can't own land, but can run the country?? I thought you had to be a full on 100% Thai national with a degree just to be able to get registered as a politician in a political party to run in local elections.

Thais cannot have two citizenships. If they accept the passport from another country, they must forfeit their Thai citizenship. But Abhisit is clearly not British. He has a reputation for probity, for Heaven's sake. He'd be torn apart by the wild animals on High Street.

Thaksin, on the other hand, is very much a Cambodian Montenegrin Nicaraguan. Certainly not Thai.

But then again, Thailand is very rarely Thai.

Does that mean he's also 10 points down on the maturity development index?

I transferred from US school system to the British school system when I was mid-teens. Sorry to say, it felt like I was stuck with a group of 10 year olds.

Sorry to say, but it feels to me that I'm stuck with a high school teenager. Why else would you still be comparing your bullies to 10 year olds decades later, if you were not still languishing in the past?

Let it go my friend. Let it go.

[CaliforniaJohn]

We have the same problem in the USA. Can't find out where our president is from. I guess the big differences is that we were able to vote for him (or not). As for Chinese ancestry, just look at a map, and look at the people. It's not hard to see where that China and India come into the picture. We need to have an election. .