Red Shirt Village Inaugurated In Udon Thani

[Lite Beer]

Red Shirt Village inaugurated in Udon Thani

UDON THANI, 4 September 2011 (NNT)- Hundreds of Red Shirt members witnessed the opening ceremony of Red Shirt Village for Democracy in Udon Thani.

The inauguration was presided over by former Minister of Labor and Social Welfare Prasong Boonpong. Around 800 Red Shirt members, some of whom are Pheu Thai MP’s, were present at the event.

The head of red shirt group in Udon Thani said his southern fellows would apply the model of red shirt village in Udon Thani to their home provinces.

In Udon Thani alone, as many as 375 villages have declared themselves Red Shirt villages. In Roi Et, 101 villages have also planned to follow suit.

-- NNT 2011-09-04

[jackdawson]

note to self ; continue to NOT be in udon or really anywhere northeast of pathum thani

[jonclark]

This hardly seems to be a model for reconciliation??

reconciliation - (as defined in the online Cambridge dictionary) " the process of making two opposite beliefs, ideas or situations agree."

Just a couple of points

1) When will PTP start issuing little red books to the rest of the population

2) Would the government be of supportive of 'yellow villages??

3) Is Thailand going to turn into one giant rainbow patchwork quilt?

4) When are PTP going to acknowledge that their end game is to turn Thailand into a communist state with papa Taksin at the top

[hammered]

This hardly seems to be a model for reconciliation??

reconciliation - (as defined in the online Cambridge dictionary) " the process of making two opposite beliefs, ideas or situations agree."

Just a couple of points

1) When will PTP start issuing little red books to the rest of the population

2) Would the government be of supportive of 'yellow villages??

3) Is Thailand going to turn into one giant rainbow patchwork quilt?

4) When are PTP going to acknowledge that their end game is to turn Thailand into a communist state with papa Taksin at the top

It is about the red shirts showing that in any reconciliation they are not going to be put back in the box by anyone. The number of these villages is staggering and during the tenure of the last government they were hardly mentioned until a reuters report on one. At that point there were already hundreds at least but nobody was telling about it. It certainly gives pause for thought over the direction the country is going but it is for a large minority if not even a majority in a very "red" way. Whoever wants to bring reconciliation has to accomodate this now very powerful mass group that carries immense electoral clout

[lovetotravel]

This hardly seems to be a model for reconciliation??

reconciliation - (as defined in the online Cambridge dictionary) " the process of making two opposite beliefs, ideas or situations agree."

Just a couple of points

1) When will PTP start issuing little red books to the rest of the population

2) Would the government be of supportive of 'yellow villages??

3) Is Thailand going to turn into one giant rainbow patchwork quilt?

4) When are PTP going to acknowledge that their end game is to turn Thailand into a communist state with papa Taksin at the top

It is about the red shirts showing that in any reconciliation they are not going to be put back in the box by anyone. The number of these villages is staggering and during the tenure of the last government they were hardly mentioned until a reuters report on one. At that point there were already hundreds at least but nobody was telling about it. It certainly gives pause for thought over the direction the country is going but it is for a large minority if not even a majority in a very "red" way. Whoever wants to bring reconciliation has to accomodate this now very powerful mass group that carries immense electoral clout

Scary for sure. Intimidation is part of their tactics in these villages. Though many really do believe in what the red shirts are doing, many are doing this for money. Especially the village headmen.

[ginjag]

note to self ; continue to NOT be in udon or really anywhere northeast of pathum thani

Any minorities in these villages have to abide and go with the flow, or they will be banished. Village mob rule.

On entering an area, you feel intimidated your freedom of speech is lost.

The elected government officials will certainly give perks to the ones who conform fully. No one would ever report on irregularities in the area.

You can imagine people who do not carry the red banner in the area will be shunned by the rest.

If the local area favours the government fine, BUT NOT put up signs on entering the zone.

[rreddin]

This hardly seems to be a model for reconciliation??

reconciliation - (as defined in the online Cambridge dictionary) " the process of making two opposite beliefs, ideas or situations agree."

Just a couple of points

1) When will PTP start issuing little red books to the rest of the population

2) Would the government be of supportive of 'yellow villages??

3) Is Thailand going to turn into one giant rainbow patchwork quilt?

4) When are PTP going to acknowledge that their end game is to turn Thailand into a communist state with papa Taksin at the top

It is about the red shirts showing that in any reconciliation they are not going to be put back in the box by anyone. The number of these villages is staggering and during the tenure of the last government they were hardly mentioned until a reuters report on one. At that point there were already hundreds at least but nobody was telling about it. It certainly gives pause for thought over the direction the country is going but it is for a large minority if not even a majority in a very "red" way. Whoever wants to bring reconciliation has to accomodate this now very powerful mass group that carries immense electoral clout

Scary for sure. Intimidation is part of their tactics in these villages. Though many really do believe in what the red shirts are doing, many are doing this for money. Especially the village headmen.

Defamatory statements are against the rules of the forum, so either produce your evidence to support your claims or retract them.

[animatic]

Thaksin backed the indoctrination of millions to win back his power.

The Sword of Damocles question is, can he or his network maintain control of this group of programed zealots into the future, or will he lose that control to less capitalist, or less rational, ideologues or demagogues bent on using the cult of personality for their own ends? It is a very, very scary scenario at play.

A cult can change it's focus, and be turned to completely different ends than the original intent, and since cults are made up of followers already skewed to shut out divergent messages, they can still be made to gradually tilt and tilt and tilt to the message is far from the original plan.

Mass indoctrination is a extremely dangerous tool to use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_control

Edited September 4, 2011 by animatic

[animatic]

This hardly seems to be a model for reconciliation??

reconciliation - (as defined in the online Cambridge dictionary) " the process of making two opposite beliefs, ideas or situations agree."

Just a couple of points

1) When will PTP start issuing little red books to the rest of the population

2) Would the government be of supportive of 'yellow villages??

3) Is Thailand going to turn into one giant rainbow patchwork quilt?

4) When are PTP going to acknowledge that their end game is to turn Thailand into a communist state with papa Taksin at the top

It is about the red shirts showing that in any reconciliation they are not going to be put back in the box by anyone. The number of these villages is staggering and during the tenure of the last government they were hardly mentioned until a reuters report on one. At that point there were already hundreds at least but nobody was telling about it. It certainly gives pause for thought over the direction the country is going but it is for a large minority if not even a majority in a very "red" way. Whoever wants to bring reconciliation has to accomodate this now very powerful mass group that carries immense electoral clout

Scary for sure. Intimidation is part of their tactics in these villages. Though many really do believe in what the red shirts are doing, many are doing this for money. Especially the village headmen.

Defamatory statements are against the rules of the forum, so either produce your evidence to support your claims or retract them.

Ah, there's some veiled intimidation right on cue.

[Roadman]

This hardly seems to be a model for reconciliation??

reconciliation - (as defined in the online Cambridge dictionary) " the process of making two opposite beliefs, ideas or situations agree."

Just a couple of points

1) When will PTP start issuing little red books to the rest of the population

2) Would the government be of supportive of 'yellow villages??

3) Is Thailand going to turn into one giant rainbow patchwork quilt?

4) When are PTP going to acknowledge that their end game is to turn Thailand into a communist state with papa Taksin at the top

It is about the red shirts showing that in any reconciliation they are not going to be put back in the box by anyone. The number of these villages is staggering and during the tenure of the last government they were hardly mentioned until a reuters report on one. At that point there were already hundreds at least but nobody was telling about it. It certainly gives pause for thought over the direction the country is going but it is for a large minority if not even a majority in a very "red" way. Whoever wants to bring reconciliation has to accomodate this now very powerful mass group that carries immense electoral clout

Scary for sure. Intimidation is part of their tactics in these villages. Though many really do believe in what the red shirts are doing, many are doing this for money. Especially the village headmen.

Defamatory statements are against the rules of the forum, so either produce your evidence to support your claims or retract them.

I can verify it via by my partner and her family who are / were all teachers or university staff in and around Udon Thani and villagers just south of. Their labelling of the Udon Thani Red Shirts leadership in their words are "a bunch of thugs and low as snakes". Mine is more direct as just straight scum.

[Pib]

And what does declaring a village a Red Shirt village get for the village other than the non-Red Shirt villagers feeling suppressed.

[lovetotravel]

And what does declaring a village a Red Shirt village get for the village other than the non-Red Shirt villagers feeling suppressed.

MONEY:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8570420.stm

Many of these people are getting paid to attend the protests. I have

employees from the North who asked me for time off work so that they can take

part in protests. They told me it was an opportunity to make extra money. I

didn't give them time off.

[backtonormal]

its only about, money, they intimidate, suppression, what nonsense. This is the only true opposition to the official PT party. Most of you would have never been in a Red village. Personally I go into one regular and the village has known dem supporters (albeit) not many and they are not suppressed or ostresized. Keep chanting your nonsense, theres a major wind of change blowing in

[Buchholz]

Thaksin backed the indoctrination of millions to win back his power.

The Sword of Damocles question is, can he or his network maintain control of this group of programed zealots into the future, or will he lose that control to less capitalist, or less rational, ideologues or demagogues bent on using the cult of personality for their own ends? It is a very, very scary scenario at play.

A cult can change it's focus, and be turned to completely different ends than the original intent, and since cults are made up of followers already skewed to shut out divergent messages, they can still be made to gradually tilt and tilt and tilt to the message is far from the original plan.

Mass indoctrination is a extremely dangerous tool to use.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Mind_control

Meanwhile rank and file red shirts struggle to resist the

Evil Lord Thaksins' plan

Real farang red shirts..

[lovetotravel]

its only about, money, they intimidate, suppression, what nonsense. This is the only true opposition to the official PT party. Most of you would have never been in a Red village. Personally I go into one regular and the village has known dem supporters (albeit) not many and they are not suppressed or ostresized. Keep chanting your nonsense, theres a major wind of change blowing in

When you vote, they know who you voted for. It's illegal, but it happens. So many people in my wife's village are afraid to vote if they don't support PTP. I would call that intimadation and supression of freedom of speech.

Would be interesting to see what would happen in your red village if 3 yellow shirts went in carrying posters supporting something or another. Doubt they would get out in one piece.

Wasn't that Tul guy chased out of Chaing Mai earlier this year???? Real democracy.

Hope that major wind is in favor of true democracy.

[DP25]

A "Village for Democracy", where the local vassal employs low level thugs in his fief to enforce political conformity among the serfs and distribute propaganda in service to their billionaire feudal lord. And for matters outside of the village each vassal ready to offer up his required fealty to his lord, truck loads of serfs ready to fight any court decision or brutally attack any political enemy. 21st century feudalism in action.

[englishinsiam]

My wife has just plainly said to me

What if there are non red shirt supporters how can they express their views? That is not democracy.

My wife is from a small village in Chachoengsao and is lucky enough to have a University education and see the big picture.

I have personally stated since he was in power last buying favouritism that he is a communist in a communists clothing. The set up of 'Communist' enclaves is not only immoral in Democracy it is downright dangerous for certain sections of the Population unfortunate to be born there if they don't follow the red sheep.

Whichever way you look at it across the world Red is the colour of socialism/Communism and there is no difference here.

[tlansford]

It is about the red shirts showing that in any reconciliation they are not going to be put back in the box by anyone. The number of these villages is staggering and during the tenure of the last government they were hardly mentioned until a reuters report on one. At that point there were already hundreds at least but nobody was telling about it. It certainly gives pause for thought over the direction the country is going but it is for a large minority if not even a majority in a very "red" way. Whoever wants to bring reconciliation has to accomodate this now very powerful mass group that carries immense electoral clout

Scary for sure. Intimidation is part of their tactics in these villages. Though many really do believe in what the red shirts are doing, many are doing this for money. Especially the village headmen.

Defamatory statements are against the rules of the forum, so either produce your evidence to support your claims or retract them.

Ah, there's some veiled intimidation right on cue.

funny, I just posted in a different thread how rare it is that people ask for confirmation of a negative statement regarding the red shirts/UDD/PTP, but it seems ("seems") to be the norm if a comment negative to the Dems is posted.

Now I know that it's just "intimidation"

[tlansford]

What seems to me to be missing in this article is that it was not "a" village as implied in the article, but - according to a different report - 64 new villages

Tom

[bkkjames]

Wonder how long before bangkok and points south are declared - un red enclaves.

[GentlemanJim]

So now begins the splitting of the country. North Thailand and South Thailand. Thaksin back to rule the Republic of North Thailand. There will be trouble ahead.

Edited September 4, 2011 by GentlemanJim

[tlansford]

I have never seen a description in English of what it means to be a "red shirt village".

So far, this is the best first-hand report I have found:

http://blogs.straitstimes.com/2011/06/16/among-red-shirt-villagers-in-thailand/

Does anyone here have other information ?

Thanks,

Tom

[rametindallas]

This hardly seems to be a model for reconciliation??

reconciliation - (as defined in the online Cambridge dictionary) " the process of making two opposite beliefs, ideas or situations agree."

Just a couple of points

1) When will PTP start issuing little red books to the rest of the population

2) Would the government be of supportive of 'yellow villages??

3) Is Thailand going to turn into one giant rainbow patchwork quilt?

4) When are PTP going to acknowledge that their end game is to turn Thailand into a communist state with papa Taksin at the top

It is about the red shirts showing that in any reconciliation they are not going to be put back in the box by anyone. The number of these villages is staggering and during the tenure of the last government they were hardly mentioned until a reuters report on one. At that point there were already hundreds at least but nobody was telling about it. It certainly gives pause for thought over the direction the country is going but it is for a large minority if not even a majority in a very "red" way. Whoever wants to bring reconciliation has to accomodate this now very powerful mass group that carries immense electoral clout

One can have reconciliation or accomodation; one cannot have both. During the last Thaksin government, Dr. Thaksin pointedly stated that those who were for him would get prefferred treatment and those who were not would get the leftovers. I would like to know your feelings on this subject and not just your observation, please.

[Ricardo]

So now begins the splitting of the country. North Thailand and South Thailand. Thaksin back to rule the Republic of North Thailand. There will be trouble ahead.

Quite.

The danger with declared 'Red-Villages', is that there may then be declared 'Red-Provinces' (with fire-proof provincial-buildings ?), followed eventually by a by a 'Red Country'.

This is hardly a move towards the reconciliation, which the new PM wants, perhaps she will speak-out against the trend, and explain why it's bad for Thailand ? Or perhaps she will delegate the task.

[ginjag]

So now begins the splitting of the country. North Thailand and South Thailand. Thaksin back to rule the Republic of North Thailand. There will be trouble ahead.

Quite.

The danger with declared 'Red-Villages', is that there may then be declared 'Red-Provinces' (with fire-proof provincial-buildings ?), followed eventually by a by a 'Red Country'.

This is hardly a move towards the reconciliation, which the new PM wants, perhaps she will speak-out against the trend, and explain why it's bad for Thailand ? Or perhaps she will delegate the task.

Odds on-delegate the task. More or less all tasks will be handed from him to her to them

[ginjag]

I have never seen a description in English of what it means to be a "red shirt village".

So far, this is the best first-hand report I have found:

http://blogs.straits...rs-in-thailand/

Does anyone here have other information ?

Thanks,

Tom

My English version would be...............Scarlet Fever

[animatic]

Interesting that some could be intimidated be others speaking the truth about the obvious.

Oh,m right. It doesn't fit the bosses game plan it must be bad,

god help anyone who thinks for themselves.

[siampolee]

I feel that we should ask where are the Ghetto's?

Are they the, "Red Villages or are they the Non Red villages ?"

Edited September 4, 2011 by siampolee

[scorecard]

So now begins the splitting of the country. North Thailand and South Thailand. Thaksin back to rule the Republic of North Thailand. There will be trouble ahead.

Quite.

The danger with declared 'Red-Villages', is that there may then be declared 'Red-Provinces' (with fire-proof provincial-buildings ?), followed eventually by a by a 'Red Country'.

This is hardly a move towards the reconciliation, which the new PM wants, perhaps she will speak-out against the trend, and explain why it's bad for Thailand ? Or perhaps she will delegate the task.

Odds on-delegate the task. More or less all tasks will be handed from him to her to them

Wonder how chalerm would explain it.

[corkman]

This offers us all a rear and unique glimse back in time to the period in time when Neanderthal man met modern homsapian man ........ except this is like one of those 'alternative reality' sci-fi movies (planet of the apes, maybe?) where the brutish basic nature of the Neanderthal keeps bubbling to the surface and becomes the dominant force.....

The longer I stay here, they less respect I have for these small 'red sheep' (I mean read shirts..... Freidian slip?).

Red Shirt Village for Democracy. Laymans definition: a pseudo-communist, socialist commune where any non-believer is free to volunteer for public ridicule, excommunication and isolation (including the boycotting of any business that non-believer may have, or bartering or trading or otherwise). Is there a Thai word for hypocrosy or irony?

I am neither Red shirt nor anti-red shirt; but this whole extremist politicisation of just about every-bloody-thing is dispicable and unbecoming of any so-called advanced society.