I have taken the law into my own hands, and succesfully at times, other times my acitons has sent me into exile... That`s okay though. People are people after lal.

Shortly after the recent hurricane hit, the villagers here set up their own vigilante patrols, and thevillage was safer than ever as a result.

I believe in common decency, and if I can aid it to exist, I will, at times, and selectively .

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So as long as being a vigilante is for the common good and not say for personnal venagence than it's okay? Would you agree with that?

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Yeah.. I suppose... If saidf "vigilante" is out for personal gain, forget about it. If said "vigilante" is yeah, Common Decency, then yeah it´s okay. bottom line is don`t involve/affect outsiders of the story, and well, I personally believe in the old adage of what goes around... There have been many more instances when somebody elses disrespect towards me I have left in peace, just never to bother wasting my time on htat person... He/she will get their just reward in time, from somewhere... Good begets good, bad begets bad, and all that..

I have taken the law into my own hands, and succesfully at times, other times my acitons has sent me into exile... That`s okay though. People are people after lal.

Shortly after the recent hurricane hit, the villagers here set up their own vigilante patrols, and thevillage was safer than ever as a result.

I believe in common decency, and if I can aid it to exist, I will, at times, and selectively .

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So as long as being a vigilante is for the common good and not say for personnal venagence than it's okay? Would you agree with that?

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Yeah.. I suppose... If saidf "vigilante" is out for personal gain, forget about it. If said "vigilante" is yeah, Common Decency, then yeah it´s okay. bottom line is don`t involve/affect outsiders of the story, and well, I personally believe in the old adage of what goes around... There have been many more instances when somebody elses disrespect towards me I have left in peace, just never to bother wasting my time on htat person... He/she will get their just reward in time, from somewhere... Good begets good, bad begets bad, and all that..

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Same page my friend.

I´m surprised ther have not been more replies to this topic, hence my bringing it back to the new posts.

I´d be interested to hear more real life stories-

I have not specifically mentioned details due to privacy issues I have, which would fairly obviously prevent many others for similar reasons, but if anybody has some interesting stories to share, it´d be ncie to read them.

I don´t have a tv, or action movies.

I´m surprised ther have not been more replies to this topic, hence my bringing it back to the new posts.

Only just seen this thread.

Anyhow, here is my story.

About 10 years ago i was coming out of a shop (in the UK) and this guy ran right past me, looking panicky. I looked around and saw an older man attempting to chase this guy. The older guy shouted "stop him, he has stolen the wages". As you know, in those days, many small businesses still paid in cash.

Anyways, i leapt into action and chased the younger guy. To cut a long story short, i caught the guy, he then attempted to stab me with a screwdriver and so i kicked the &lt;deleted&gt; out of him, (I used to Box for the Royal Navy and was also doing Shotokan). The older guy was chuffed that he had got his wages back and we called the Police.

The thing is, i got a real rush out of this and i can honestly say, i thoroughly enjoyed "giving justice" to this thief. I got burgled a few years later and would have loved to have caught the guy, he would have got much the same.

Does this make me a Vigilante, or was i just being a good citizen, or was i being a stupid citizen?

And is it natural, (even though the adrenalin was flowing like mad) to feel the way i did about kicking the living day lights out of this guy?

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And is it natural, (even though the adrenalin was flowing like mad) to feel the way i did about kicking the living day lights out of this guy?

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I know your question, perhaps doesn't need an answer.

But just ask yourself, if you had, on an occasion, been "a bit of a lad" (and being ex-RN you must have had many chance at this) how would you feel if the copper, or the MP, who caught you, beat the shit out of you?

And is it natural, (even though the adrenalin was flowing like mad) to feel the way i did about kicking the living day lights out of this guy?

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I know your question, perhaps doesn't need an answer.

But just ask yourself, if you had, on an occasion, been "a bit of a lad" (and being ex-RN you must have had many chance at this) how would you feel if the copper, or the MP, who caught you, beat the shit out of you?

Being in the Navy, everyone has a turn at being an MP, whilst in foreign shores. I never did this to anyone on my duty and have never had it done to me. However, i have never tried to stab someone with a screwdriver.

Any talkings to, that i have had in the past, have been exactly what you say, a "bit of a lad" jovial after a few beers. Not as a thief, trying to rob someone's hard earned salary with a lethal weapon

And is it natural, (even though the adrenalin was flowing like mad) to feel the way i did about kicking the living day lights out of this guy?

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I know your question, perhaps doesn't need an answer.

But just ask yourself, if you had, on an occasion, been "a bit of a lad" (and being ex-RN you must have had many chance at this) how would you feel if the copper, or the MP, who caught you, beat the shit out of you?

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Being in the Navy, everyone has a turn at being an MP, whilst in foreign shores. I never did this to anyone on my duty and have never had it done to me. However, i have never tried to stab someone with a screwdriver.

Any talkings to, that i have had in the past, have been exactly what you say, a "bit of a lad" jovial after a few beers. Not as a thief, trying to rob someone's hard earned salary with a lethal weapon

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What were the standing orders for an MP if someone pull a knife on you?

I'm not trying to belittle you, but hoping to point out, that even the violent offender has a right to a "reasonable" arrest.

However justified you may think giving this lad a good hiding may seem, his lawyers could - and a court would - want you punished for assault.

Don't get me wrong, I probably would - in my younger days - have done the same as you, but in the UK at least, this sort of "over-enthusiasm" is often prosecuted and punished.

And is it natural, (even though the adrenalin was flowing like mad) to feel the way i did about kicking the living day lights out of this guy?

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I know your question, perhaps doesn't need an answer.

But just ask yourself, if you had, on an occasion, been "a bit of a lad" (and being ex-RN you must have had many chance at this) how would you feel if the copper, or the MP, who caught you, beat the shit out of you?

Being in the Navy, everyone has a turn at being an MP, whilst in foreign shores. I never did this to anyone on my duty and have never had it done to me. However, i have never tried to stab someone with a screwdriver.

Any talkings to, that i have had in the past, have been exactly what you say, a "bit of a lad" jovial after a few beers. Not as a thief, trying to rob someone's hard earned salary with a lethal weapon

What were the standing orders for an MP if someone pull a knife on you?

I'm not trying to belittle you, but hoping to point out, that even the violent offender has a right to a "reasonable" arrest.

However justified you may think giving this lad a good hiding may seem, his lawyers could - and a court would - want you punished for assault.

Don't get me wrong, I probably would - in my younger days - have done the same as you, but in the UK at least, this sort of "over-enthusiasm" is often prosecuted and punished.

OK Thomas, this could go on all night as you attempt to defend thieves and robbers, arguing that they have rights etc. I didn't give him a kicking until he tried to stab me but this thread isn't about what is "Reasonable Force" that is probably for an thread of it's own.

Back on topic, the issue that i was mainly asking, was, so "Does this make me a Vigilante, or was i just being a good citizen, or was i being a stupid citizen (putting myself at risk for something that didn't really concern me)?

And don't worry Thomas, i won't ever feel belittled by you

And is it natural, (even though the adrenalin was flowing like mad) to feel the way i did about kicking the living day lights out of this guy?

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I know your question, perhaps doesn't need an answer.

But just ask yourself, if you had, on an occasion, been "a bit of a lad" (and being ex-RN you must have had many chance at this) how would you feel if the copper, or the MP, who caught you, beat the shit out of you?

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Being in the Navy, everyone has a turn at being an MP, whilst in foreign shores. I never did this to anyone on my duty and have never had it done to me. However, i have never tried to stab someone with a screwdriver.

Any talkings to, that i have had in the past, have been exactly what you say, a "bit of a lad" jovial after a few beers. Not as a thief, trying to rob someone's hard earned salary with a lethal weapon

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What were the standing orders for an MP if someone pull a knife on you?

I'm not trying to belittle you, but hoping to point out, that even the violent offender has a right to a "reasonable" arrest.

However justified you may think giving this lad a good hiding may seem, his lawyers could - and a court would - want you punished for assault.

Don't get me wrong, I probably would - in my younger days - have done the same as you, but in the UK at least, this sort of "over-enthusiasm" is often prosecuted and punished.

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OK Thomas, this could go on all night as you attempt to defend thieves and robbers, arguing that they have rights etc. I didn't give him a kicking until he tried to stab me but this thread isn't about what is "Reasonable Force" that is probably for an thread of it's own.

Back on topic, the issue that i was mainly asking, was, so "Does this make me a Vigilante, or was i just being a good citizen, or was i being a stupid citizen (putting myself at risk for something that didn't really concern me)?

This was the point of the thread for me anyway. I wanted to know what made people label others as vigilante. I am not concerned with reasonable force. I believe one should control themselves in such situations so that the only harm that is done is what is necessary, however, in your examaple that person should have expected violence if what they put out was violence. Those who live by the sword die by it. Or in this case screwdriver.

A young man where I live tried to stop a purse thief and as result was killed by the criminal. The whole community mourned him and said he was a good guy. Another person here tried to stop a thief and both ended up fighting eachother, the man was arrested along with the thief. I guess he interfered with police work.

Were these men vigilantes?

And don't worry Thomas, i won't ever feel belittled by you

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Not exactly "vigilantism", but close. Either way, a round of applause for the Dutch guy:

Dutchman rams gunmen into power pole

PHUKET (Gazette, Kom Chad Luek):

A Dutchman turned the tables on two men who allegedly fired a gun at him as he drove his pickup along Chao Fa West Rd yesterday morning, chasing them down and ramming their motorbike into a power pole.

One of the two men was killed, the other seriously injured.

Pol Lt Col Jessada Sangsuree of the Chalong Police Station said that he initially received a report of an accident involving a green Isuzu D-Max pickup and a motorbike on Soi Thanuthep, off Chao Fa West Rd, in Chalong Village 8.

Arriving at the scene with rescue workers from the Kusoldharm Foundation, police found a power pole snapped in half by the truck’s impact. One of the two alleged attackers was still at the scene, moaning for help, with his arm jammed under a broken section of the pole.

Police identified him as Nakhon Sri Thammarat native Sooksamart Dampheng, 21, the driver of the motorbike. He was sen t to Wachira Phuket Hospital, where he is still being treated.

The alleged gunmen, 32-year-old Supoj Jaihao, also of Nakhon Sri Thammarat, was rushed to Wachira Phuket Hospital by local residents before police arrived. He later died in the hospital’s emergency ward from internal injuries, his lung having been punctured by a broken bone.

Police noted as evidence in the case one hole in the driver’s side door of the pickup, along with the homemade shotgun allegedly fired by the two assailants.

The driver of the pickup, 47-year-old Dutchman Jen Jensen, identified himself to police as the owner of the Easy Internet shop on Soi Pramote, Chao Fa West Rd.

He said he was driving with his Thai girlfriend about 300 meters from the accident scene when he noticed two men trailing him on a motorbike. They pulled up alongside his vehicle and Suphot drew his weapon and fired, missing his intended victim and hitting the driver’s side door.

The gunmen then attempted to flee but Mr Jensen gave chase. When they slowed to negotiate a corner Jen decided to ram them into the utility pole, he said.

Police are working on the assumption that the attack was the result of a business conflict that arose last August and has resulted in mutual death threats.

Col Jessada said Sooksamart would be charged with attempted murder.

Police are still considering charges against Jensen. These might including negligent driving resulting in another person’s death and committing bodily harm, he added.

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The Phuket Gazette

18:23 local time (GMT +7)

Mess with the bull get the horns!

a lot of Dutch men getting hit these days, huh?

Good on him I say. Pity if he gets taken down by the law.

edit> I mean, somebody is shooting at me... Not like I have time to find a phone and call the cops is it?