Action Sought On Shinawatra Family Case

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Action sought on Shinawatra case

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- The opposition Democrat Party yesterday petitioned relevant state agencies asking them to expedite a criminal case relating to the securities law against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her relatives, involving alleged false certification of documents.

Democrat MPs Korn Chatika-vanij and Wirut Kalayasiri called on the Election Commission, Revenue Department and Finance Ministry to take action before the case lapses under the statute of limitations at the end of this month, according to posts on social media accounts with ties to the Opposition party.

The Democrats said Yingluck; Panthongtae and Pinthongta Shinawatra, children of the PM's brother Thaksin; and Bannapot Damapong, Thaksin's former brother-in-law, falsely certified documents used in the trial in which ex-PM Thaksin was accused of concealing his wealth by transferring shares to other people.

In February 2010, the Supreme Court ordered the seizure of Bt46 billion of Thaksin's assets earned unlawfully while serving as prime minister. The court found that he had concealed his holding of shares in the family business, Shin Corp, while in office and that he pretended to have sold them to his children and relatives, though no actual payment was made.

The Democrats yesterday also called on the relevant authorities to ensure that the Bt12 billion in unpaid tax on the share sale should be collected from Thaksin, according to messages on Team-Korn Chatika-vanij Page on Facebook and the @TeamKorn_DP on Twitter.

The Revenue Department decided not to pursue a case against Panthongtae and Pinthongta, citing the court verdict that the shares actually belonged to Thaksin.

"The tax should be collected from the real owner," said a message in the @TeamKorn_DP account.

"A tax of Bt12 billion was incurred from the transaction. If no tax is collected from his children due to the court ruling that the shares belong to the father, the tax should be collected from the father in full," a message on the Team-Korn Chatikavanij Page read.

Thawatchai Pittayasophon, director for corporate affairs at the Securities and Exchange Commis-sion, said yesterday that the office received a letter from a representative of the Democrat Party requesting the office speed up the investigation of the assets-concealment case involving Thaksin Shinawatra.

However, he said, the office would have to consider whether any additional information had come to light. He declined to unveil details of the letter.

-- The Nation 2012-03-10

[maeab]

This is very good news please follow thru.........

[Macmundi]

Wasting time. They want to take action on Thaksin but they don't want to open up any channel to let him in the country. This news is getting too old and is never resolved. If Thaksin comes back, the law will definitely fail to punish him, but the assassins will not.

[daninthai]

The Shins are just waiting for the end of the month. Nothing will happen.

[takatukaland]

Wasting time. They want to take action on Thaksin but they don't want to open up any channel to let him in the country. This news is getting too old and is never resolved. If Thaksin comes back, the law will definitely fail to punish him, but the assassins will not.

Why they so afraid Thaksin comes back?Wonder what they afraid of

[Skywalker69]

This is very good news please follow thru.........

100% agreed.

[animatic]

The action is already filed.

Only in Thailand would the statue of limitations expire on an case that is already started,

but not finished going through the courts. Normally the statue of limitations cancels a case

if the authorities don't FILE the case to court in time. That is not the case here.

[renaissanc]

We all know what is going to happen? ... Nothing. Will Thaksin's opponents forget? ... No. Will there be massive demonstrations when he returns a free and innocent man with no criminal cases against him? ... Yes. Will the Red Shirts get violent against the opponents and make the situation get out of control? ... Yes. All this is in store for Thailand this year.

[tragickingdom]

Maybe the democrats should paying taxes. So far nobody says anything about the richest family in Thailanc Charoen Pokhand or mister Suthep and his criminal gains. If the DP was serious they would have petitioned a few months earlier. Even if agencies want, they cannot get it done before the end of the month.

Everything the DO does is dishonest. There was a red notice on Thaksin (so they said), Interpol denied. They wanted Thaksin back, at least that is what the public had to believe, they never took any action.

The DP is a party of inaction a party that knows that they cannot win elections and a party that wants to preserve the sat us quo.

[MAJIC]

Wasting time. They want to take action on Thaksin but they don't want to open up any channel to let him in the country. This news is getting too old and is never resolved. If Thaksin comes back, the law will definitely fail to punish him, but the assassins will not.

Why they so afraid Thaksin comes back?Wonder what they afraid of

If you need to ask the question,I doubt you would understand the answer.

[yoshiwara]

Maybe the democrats should paying taxes. So far nobody says anything about the richest family in Thailanc Charoen Pokhand or mister Suthep and his criminal gains. If the DP was serious they would have petitioned a few months earlier. Even if agencies want, they cannot get it done before the end of the month.

Everything the DO does is dishonest. There was a red notice on Thaksin (so they said), Interpol denied. They wanted Thaksin back, at least that is what the public had to believe, they never took any action.

The DP is a party of inaction a party that knows that they cannot win elections and a party that wants to preserve the sat us quo.

The Thaksin apologists fall into two camps which are rather difficult to reconcile. Never mind, neither camp is wedded to the truth or otherwise of what they are saying. Anything that supports their man iis OK with them. Position number one is that the charges were trumped up and therefore he is innocent. Position number two says that he is not innocent but the political opposition do the same. Our old friend the double standards defence. Neither camp cares whether he is innocent or guilty. For them the golden rule is that he who owns the gold makes the rules and therefore the law is purely a political instrument. Their main objective now is that the law should bend immediately to the government's (ie Thaksin's) will. The irony of this should not be lost.

[ozzieman05]

statue of limitations Is the period of time that must pass before the crime can be forgotten

Once some one has been charged with the crime, the statue of limitations is no longer exists

Oops sorry this is Thailand where the goal post's are changed during the game

[473geo]

Maybe the democrats should paying taxes. So far nobody says anything about the richest family in Thailanc Charoen Pokhand or mister Suthep and his criminal gains. If the DP was serious they would have petitioned a few months earlier. Even if agencies want, they cannot get it done before the end of the month.

Everything the DO does is dishonest. There was a red notice on Thaksin (so they said), Interpol denied. They wanted Thaksin back, at least that is what the public had to believe, they never took any action.

The DP is a party of inaction a party that knows that they cannot win elections and a party that wants to preserve the sat us quo.

The Thaksin apologists fall into two camps which are rather difficult to reconcile. Never mind, neither camp is wedded to the truth or otherwise of what they are saying. Anything that supports their man iis OK with them. Position number one is that the charges were trumped up and therefore he is innocent. Position number two says that he is not innocent but the political opposition do the same. Our old friend the double standards defence. Neither camp cares whether he is innocent or guilty. For them the golden rule is that he who owns the gold makes the rules and therefore the law is purely a political instrument. Their main objective now is that the law should bend immediately to the government's (ie Thaksin's) will. The irony of this should not be lost.

Actually it would appear the law is about to eradicate the charges when the statute of limitations runs out......when was the offence.....circa 2006......and the democrats could make no progress in their 2 years in the driving seat.......and now attempt to excuse their inaction by passing the buck....wow I'm impressed by their new found enthusiasm........

[catmac]

Actually it would appear the law is about to eradicate the charges when the statute of limitations runs out......when was the offence.....circa 2006......and the democrats could make no progress in their 2 years in the driving seat.......and now attempt to excuse their inaction by passing the buck....wow I'm impressed by their new found enthusiasm........

Got it in one, 473. Just about sums up the utter incompetence of the puppet's government. Never was so much hot air, vitriol and sheer hatred uttered against one man, and yet not a single thing was achieved.

[scorecard]

Wasting time. They want to take action on Thaksin but they don't want to open up any channel to let him in the country. This news is getting too old and is never resolved. If Thaksin comes back, the law will definitely fail to punish him, but the assassins will not.

Why they so afraid Thaksin comes back?Wonder what they afraid of

Ever heard of revenge, serious revenge?

Senior public servants are terrified of his return.

[scorecard]

Actually it would appear the law is about to eradicate the charges when the statute of limitations runs out......when was the offence.....circa 2006......and the democrats could make no progress in their 2 years in the driving seat.......and now attempt to excuse their inaction by passing the buck....wow I'm impressed by their new found enthusiasm........

Got it in one, 473. Just about sums up the utter incompetence of the puppet's government. Never was so much hot air, vitriol and sheer hatred uttered against one man, and yet not a single thing was achieved.

Well not quite that simple.

There's been plenty of discussion around:

- Evidence disappearing and therefore case not ready and maybe case will now never be ready because no / not enough supporting documents etc.

- Failure of specific government officials to report for questioning / refusing to answer pertinent questions, etc.

[lannarebirth]

Maybe the democrats should paying taxes. So far nobody says anything about the richest family in Thailanc Charoen Pokhand or mister Suthep and his criminal gains. If the DP was serious they would have petitioned a few months earlier. Even if agencies want, they cannot get it done before the end of the month.

Everything the DO does is dishonest. There was a red notice on Thaksin (so they said), Interpol denied. They wanted Thaksin back, at least that is what the public had to believe, they never took any action.

The DP is a party of inaction a party that knows that they cannot win elections and a party that wants to preserve the sat us quo.

What's your point? Everything in Thailand is dishonest. Have the majority been helped by this new government? Doesn't REAL change come generationally?

[lannarebirth]

Wasting time. They want to take action on Thaksin but they don't want to open up any channel to let him in the country. This news is getting too old and is never resolved. If Thaksin comes back, the law will definitely fail to punish him, but the assassins will not.

Why they so afraid Thaksin comes back?Wonder what they afraid of

Ever heard of revenge, serious revenge?

Senior public servants are terrified of his return.

The Land Department for one has been almost frozen since he left. They're terrified to do this and terrified to do that. Mostly because so many of his family and cronies stole public lands and are trying to "clean" it now.

[473geo]

Actually it would appear the law is about to eradicate the charges when the statute of limitations runs out......when was the offence.....circa 2006......and the democrats could make no progress in their 2 years in the driving seat.......and now attempt to excuse their inaction by passing the buck....wow I'm impressed by their new found enthusiasm........

Got it in one, 473. Just about sums up the utter incompetence of the puppet's government. Never was so much hot air, vitriol and sheer hatred uttered against one man, and yet not a single thing was achieved.

Well not quite that simple.

There's been plenty of discussion around:

- Evidence disappearing and therefore case not ready and maybe case will now never be ready because no / not enough supporting documents etc.

- Failure of specific government officials to report for questioning / refusing to answer pertinent questions, etc.

Oh right so it is as simple as it will reach the statute of limitations because there does not appear to be "enough supporting documents"

[scorecard]

Maybe the democrats should paying taxes. So far nobody says anything about the richest family in Thailanc Charoen Pokhand or mister Suthep and his criminal gains. If the DP was serious they would have petitioned a few months earlier. Even if agencies want, they cannot get it done before the end of the month.

Everything the DO does is dishonest. There was a red notice on Thaksin (so they said), Interpol denied. They wanted Thaksin back, at least that is what the public had to believe, they never took any action.

The DP is a party of inaction a party that knows that they cannot win elections and a party that wants to preserve the sat us quo.

The Thaksin apologists fall into two camps which are rather difficult to reconcile. Never mind, neither camp is wedded to the truth or otherwise of what they are saying. Anything that supports their man iis OK with them. Position number one is that the charges were trumped up and therefore he is innocent. Position number two says that he is not innocent but the political opposition do the same. Our old friend the double standards defence. Neither camp cares whether he is innocent or guilty. For them the golden rule is that he who owns the gold makes the rules and therefore the law is purely a political instrument. Their main objective now is that the law should bend immediately to the government's (ie Thaksin's) will. The irony of this should not be lost.

Well said.

Or put it another way; the paymaster and his reds / udd / pt gangs all claim now to be the champions of democracy and justice, but want a different picture for their paymaster, the absolute mother of all double standards.

And the joke / the twist goes further, they also demand that there be no double standards.

Clowns, dangerous clowns

Edited March 11, 2012 by scorecard

[scorecard]

Maybe the democrats should paying taxes. So far nobody says anything about the richest family in Thailanc Charoen Pokhand or mister Suthep and his criminal gains. If the DP was serious they would have petitioned a few months earlier. Even if agencies want, they cannot get it done before the end of the month.

Everything the DO does is dishonest. There was a red notice on Thaksin (so they said), Interpol denied. They wanted Thaksin back, at least that is what the public had to believe, they never took any action.

The DP is a party of inaction a party that knows that they cannot win elections and a party that wants to preserve the sat us quo.

What's your point? Everything in Thailand is dishonest. Have the majority been helped by this new government? Doesn't REAL change come generationally?

So where's the pt policies which will start real change?

[473geo]

Maybe the democrats should paying taxes. So far nobody says anything about the richest family in Thailanc Charoen Pokhand or mister Suthep and his criminal gains. If the DP was serious they would have petitioned a few months earlier. Even if agencies want, they cannot get it done before the end of the month.

Everything the DO does is dishonest. There was a red notice on Thaksin (so they said), Interpol denied. They wanted Thaksin back, at least that is what the public had to believe, they never took any action.

The DP is a party of inaction a party that knows that they cannot win elections and a party that wants to preserve the sat us quo.

The Thaksin apologists fall into two camps which are rather difficult to reconcile. Never mind, neither camp is wedded to the truth or otherwise of what they are saying. Anything that supports their man iis OK with them. Position number one is that the charges were trumped up and therefore he is innocent. Position number two says that he is not innocent but the political opposition do the same. Our old friend the double standards defence. Neither camp cares whether he is innocent or guilty. For them the golden rule is that he who owns the gold makes the rules and therefore the law is purely a political instrument. Their main objective now is that the law should bend immediately to the government's (ie Thaksin's) will. The irony of this should not be lost.

Well said.

Or put it another way; the paymaster and his reds / udd / pt gangs all claim now to be the champions of democracy and justice, but want a different picture for their paymaster, the absolute mother of all double standards.

And the joke / the twist goes further, they also demand that there be no double standards.

Clowns, dangerous clowns

Wrong again, if Thaksin owes the tax then I'm sure many would agree he should pay, perhaps they would welcome a boost to goverment funds for more populist policies, which would consign the Democrats to even more years in the opposition wilderness

[hellodolly]

Maybe the democrats should paying taxes. So far nobody says anything about the richest family in Thailanc Charoen Pokhand or mister Suthep and his criminal gains. If the DP was serious they would have petitioned a few months earlier. Even if agencies want, they cannot get it done before the end of the month.

Everything the DO does is dishonest. There was a red notice on Thaksin (so they said), Interpol denied. They wanted Thaksin back, at least that is what the public had to believe, they never took any action.

The DP is a party of inaction a party that knows that they cannot win elections and a party that wants to preserve the sat us quo.

The Thaksin apologists fall into two camps which are rather difficult to reconcile. Never mind, neither camp is wedded to the truth or otherwise of what they are saying. Anything that supports their man iis OK with them. Position number one is that the charges were trumped up and therefore he is innocent. Position number two says that he is not innocent but the political opposition do the same. Our old friend the double standards defence. Neither camp cares whether he is innocent or guilty. For them the golden rule is that he who owns the gold makes the rules and therefore the law is purely a political instrument. Their main objective now is that the law should bend immediately to the government's (ie Thaksin's) will. The irony of this should not be lost.

You are correct there are two different factions siding Thaksin.

What I can't understand is how any one with a thread of honesty can follow this man. Th number of times he has contradicted himself is unbelievable. To be point blank the number of lies he has told.

I understand that there is a large payroll for his supporters but they are in the minority. What are the rest of them thinking of?

[Heimdallr]

You are correct there are two different factions siding Thaksin.

What I can't understand is how any one with a thread of honesty can follow this man. Th number of times he has contradicted himself is unbelievable. To be point blank the number of lies he has told.

I understand that there is a large payroll for his supporters but they are in the minority. What are the rest of them thinking of?

The term you're looking for is "cognitive dissonance".

[gemini81]

Wasting time. They want to take action on Thaksin but they don't want to open up any channel to let him in the country. This news is getting too old and is never resolved. If Thaksin comes back, the law will definitely fail to punish him, but the assassins will not.

Why they so afraid Thaksin comes back?Wonder what they afraid of

Trying to keep it simple for you: the government officials are were worried at the time (and those still in office are worried) about him reshuffling the cards. In addition, that they lives could be in great danger ruling against the corrupt family and the consequences. As far as government workers, phuea thai can move them around every 6 months following their KPI evaluations. Like the latest finance minister moved about since he disagreed with some of the silly pheua thai policies.

[animatic]

You are correct there are two different factions siding Thaksin.

What I can't understand is how any one with a thread of honesty can follow this man. Th number of times he has contradicted himself is unbelievable. To be point blank the number of lies he has told.

I understand that there is a large payroll for his supporters but they are in the minority. What are the rest of them thinking of?

The term you're looking for is "cognitive dissonance".

Or blinders.

[sparebox2]

Action sought on Shinawatra case? Don't.

The sooner Thaksin case re-start, the sooner Thai govt will refund Thaksin 76 Billion Baht in wrongly confiscated personal wealth.

[Thaddeus]

The action is already filed.

Only in Thailand would the statue of limitations expire on an case that is already started,

but not finished going through the courts. Normally the statue of limitations cancels a case

if the authorities don't FILE the case to court in time. That is not the case here.

Is it ever..... I have an issue with the whole statute of limitations anyway, years of stalling and the ner ner ner ner ner.... I did it but it's too late now.

Sorry, but criminal charges should not expire ever as far as I am concerned.

Ooh yeh, I instigated the unwarranted deaths of several thousand people ......... but that was years ago.

[OzMick]

Wrong again, if Thaksin owes the tax then I'm sure many would agree he should pay, perhaps they would welcome a boost to goverment funds for more populist policies, which would consign the Democrats to even more years in the opposition wilderness

While many may agree that he should pay, do you expect that the government run by him with his sister as proxy, who also perjured herself in this asset case, will push to enforce collection, or instruct their minions to delay until SOL takes effect?

Meanwhile, Yingluk's clear cut act of perjury is "being investigated" by the DSI. Exactly how long does it take to read a court transcript?

[Buchholz]

Wrong again, if Thaksin owes the tax then I'm sure many would agree he should pay, perhaps they would welcome a boost to goverment funds for more populist policies, which would consign the Democrats to even more years in the opposition wilderness

While many may agree that he should pay, do you expect that the government run by him with his sister as proxy, who also perjured herself in this asset case, will push to enforce collection, or instruct their minions to delay until SOL takes effect?

Meanwhile, Yingluk's clear cut act of perjury is "being investigated" by the DSI. Exactly how long does it take to read a court transcript?

In the case of the Red Shirts terrorizing the public in July 2007, it will soon be taking five years before prosecution moves forward.

.