ttechguy Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Heard new Prius 2012 wil be debuted in Motor show starting from March 28. Technically, if we order on March 28, it should arrive before April 30, but I have heard that production is delayed? is that true? or the sales guy just trying to sell me fast?- he said I should order now inorder to get by April 30th, and he is saying that he can guarantee that car can't be deviled by April 30th if ordered in motor show and this guy is offering no free insurance for first year also and no discount also...suspicious, any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttechguy Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamLing Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 any ideas? Yes..... only one. After the Ssangyong Staviic MPV 4x2, and its other ugly siblings in the Ssangyong range, the current Toyota Prius must be the second ugliest car in Thailand. I don't know what Toyota has in store for the 2012 model but I'm sure the changes will be cosmetic only. Buy a different car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangBuddha Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 He's trying to save the earth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamLing Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 As well as being an ugly car, the Prius, and all the other hybrids around, is just an unnecessary scam. Sure, people buy with good intent but with little or no knowledge of energy usage. Using batteries as the power source sounds fine....... less fossil fuel being burned and less polution to the atmosphere!!!!! Not so!!! Where is the energy sourced to produce the electricity to charge the batteries? Fossil fuel, of course. It's a great marketting ploy......... reduce the carbon footprint and "save the Earth". Nonsense!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaussie Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 New model looks quiet nice. But I just don't get it. Why should the consumer be expected to pay such a premium for pretty basic technology. Hybrids are a wank and the motor industries way of pretending to care...a token gesture and marketing gimmick. I'm curious where do you plug the Prius in when on a trip. Not sure I'd have the patience to wait for a few hours to recharge. 5 minutes at the bouser seems much more efficient. All the industry needs to do is focus on making normally aspirated cars more efficient. They're doing that now and I'm sure this will continue to advance. Until battery technology improves and they become smaller and lighter, electric cars are also a bit of a fad. But I suppose they need to start somewhere. I'm not anti. I just don't like the way the auto industry expects people to pay a premium for something which shouldn't cost $1 more. Especially considering the huge grants and rebates they get for "green" technology advances.......time to hug a tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 In all fairness, I think it has more to do with tax incentives, government mandates and marketing than any evil conspiracy on the part of auto makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have a Prius, less than a year old, 32,000 km on the clock, average consumption 4.5 l / 100 km. My CLK with a similar mileage, 11.6 l / 100 km. That's why I'm happy with both cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have a Prius, less than a year old, 32,000 km on the clock, average consumption 4.5 l / 100 km. My CLK with a similar mileage, 11.6 l / 100 km. That's why I'm happy with both cars. Exactly the pint that was screaming to be made. Though I don't own a Prius I was about to say that my prime motive in considering one would be the long-term economy. It's the reason one sees them everywhere in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have a Prius, less than a year old, 32,000 km on the clock, average consumption 4.5 l / 100 km. My CLK with a similar mileage, 11.6 l / 100 km. That's why I'm happy with both cars. Exactly the pint that was screaming to be made. Though I don't own a Prius I was about to say that my prime motive in considering one would be the long-term economy. It's the reason one sees them everywhere in London. If you're thinking of getting one, do so - you won't regret it, especially if you're a relatively high miler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 any ideas? Yes..... only one. After the Ssangyong Staviic MPV 4x2, and its other ugly siblings in the Ssangyong range, the current Toyota Prius must be the second ugliest car in Thailand. I don't know what Toyota has in store for the 2012 model but I'm sure the changes will be cosmetic only. Buy a different car. Just out of curiosity, what car do you drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have a Prius, less than a year old, 32,000 km on the clock, average consumption 4.5 l / 100 km. My CLK with a similar mileage, 11.6 l / 100 km. That's why I'm happy with both cars. Exactly the pint that was screaming to be made. Though I don't own a Prius I was about to say that my prime motive in considering one would be the long-term economy. It's the reason one sees them everywhere in London. The reason i think you see them everywhere in London are they are exempt from the congestion charge? plus you are restricted to a speed by big brother that makes the technoligy feasable, it's not Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 In California you get to drive solo in the HOV lanes, and I think you can get a tax credit from the Fed as well. What does a battery pack cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Antone have any numbers for the "new" 1.8l vs the older 1.6l. Seems counter intuitive to have a vehicle that saves the planet and then make the fossil fuel engine bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 In California you get to drive solo in the HOV lanes, and I think you can get a tax credit from the Fed as well. What does a battery pack cost? The batteries apparently will have a lifetime in excess of 10 years. It seems so far that no Prius owner has ever had to purchase a battery, Toyota has replaced some faulty ones that have given up a ghost after a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Antone have any numbers for the "new" 1.8l vs the older 1.6l. Seems counter intuitive to have a vehicle that saves the planet and then make the fossil fuel engine bigger. I don't know about the older 1.6l. I bought mine last year and it's a 1.8l. I don't think there is actually a 1.6l model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Antone have any numbers for the "new" 1.8l vs the older 1.6l. Seems counter intuitive to have a vehicle that saves the planet and then make the fossil fuel engine bigger. I don't know about the older 1.6l. I bought mine last year and it's a 1.8l. I don't think there is actually a 1.6l model. I gets worse it used to be 1.5l and i found some numbers: The 1.8-liter gasoline engine (previously 1.5 liters) generates 98 hp, and with the added power of the electric motor generates a total of 134 hp (previously 110 hp) So Prius buyers want to be environmentally kinder but the vehicle engine is getting bigger. I still haven't found any real fuel usage numbers for old vs new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Antone have any numbers for the "new" 1.8l vs the older 1.6l. Seems counter intuitive to have a vehicle that saves the planet and then make the fossil fuel engine bigger. I don't know about the older 1.6l. I bought mine last year and it's a 1.8l. I don't think there is actually a 1.6l model. I gets worse it used to be 1.5l and i found some numbers: The 1.8-liter gasoline engine (previously 1.5 liters) generates 98 hp, and with the added power of the electric motor generates a total of 134 hp (previously 110 hp) So Prius buyers want to be environmentally kinder but the vehicle engine is getting bigger. I still haven't found any real fuel usage numbers for old vs new. Good question to pose to environmentalists. As for me, I bought it primarily for the fuel efficiency and the fact that as a five door, I have much bigger luggage space than say a Camry. The Camry hybrid has even less luggage space as they put the battery in the boot unlike the Prius, which was designed from the ground up as a hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I have a Prius, less than a year old, 32,000 km on the clock, average consumption 4.5 l / 100 km. My CLK with a similar mileage, 11.6 l / 100 km. That's why I'm happy with both cars. Exactly the pint that was screaming to be made. Though I don't own a Prius I was about to say that my prime motive in considering one would be the long-term economy. It's the reason one sees them everywhere in London. The reason i think you see them everywhere in London are they are exempt from the congestion charge? plus you are restricted to a speed by big brother that makes the technoligy feasable, it's not Thailand Do you know that to be true or are you making a wild guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttechguy Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) I'm curious where do you plug the Prius in when on a trip. Not sure I'd have the patience to wait for a few hours to recharge. 5 minutes at the bouser seems much more efficient. Sorry, I am sure you might not have seen the Prius and hybrid technology. Prius is not electric car where you can plugin... the battery charges automatically when you are running on Gas... Mechanical energy to Electrical energy... which was basic physics that I was stuck in my mind long back... like the trains use this system when diesel and coal engines are used. I am an IT guy, I always feel automobiles are dead industry... every things run on Gas since the invention of it... unlike IT which we have more efficient way with reducing costs.. Yes... Toyota is marketing genius to attract with hydrid technology.... but atleast, its new upgrade I think of... may be in future a battery with generator system will be developed.. But I am sure not in next 50 years Edited March 24, 2012 by MySiam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonobo Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 As well as being an ugly car, the Prius, and all the other hybrids around, is just an unnecessary scam. Sure, people buy with good intent but with little or no knowledge of energy usage. Using batteries as the power source sounds fine....... less fossil fuel being burned and less polution to the atmosphere!!!!! Not so!!! Where is the energy sourced to produce the electricity to charge the batteries? Fossil fuel, of course. It's a great marketting ploy......... reduce the carbon footprint and "save the Earth". Nonsense!! Not quite accurate. The Prius turns off when stopped at stoplights and such. This saves fuel. It converts kinetic energy from braking into electricity which is normally dissipated as heat in other cars. And the car stores energy in the battery to use to assist in acceleration (a major input to fuel consumption), allowing a smaller engine to be used for a given performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamLing Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Just out of curiosity, what car do you drive? Sorry for the late reply to your question. Let me give you a clue....................... It's definitely not a Ssangyong Staviic and it's not Prius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamLing Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Not quite accurate. The Prius turns off when stopped at stoplights and such. This saves fuel. It converts kinetic energy from braking into electricity which is normally dissipated as heat in other cars. And the car stores energy in the battery to use to assist in acceleration (a major input to fuel consumption), allowing a smaller engine to be used for a given performance. Based on Formula 1 KERS? (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaussie Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Impressive, I wasn't aware it's alternate power was derived from KIRS. So why bother with Volt, Leaf or even Fisker? Sounds like plug in is outdated. Living in Thailand do you think cars in the Prius category, Civic etc justify the 50% premium in purchase price with fuel priced as it is. I'm sure it does in Europe but not so much in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I am an IT guy, I always feel automobiles are dead industry... every things run on Gas since the invention of it... unlike IT which we have more efficient way with reducing costs.. I had to laugh at this. It seems like every new version of Windows requires more computing power not less. MS engineers should be made to work on10 year old PC's when developing new versions. And when was the last time anyone got laid in the back seat of a PC? Proirties, priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttechguy Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 I am an IT guy, I always feel automobiles are dead industry... every things run on Gas since the invention of it... unlike IT which we have more efficient way with reducing costs.. I had to laugh at this. It seems like every new version of Windows requires more computing power not less. MS engineers should be made to work on10 year old PC's when developing new versions. And when was the last time anyone got laid in the back seat of a PC? Proirties, priorities. Like your humor computing power is not directly related to Energy scarcity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Burn oil to generate rotational force to generate electricity to charge a battery to drive an electric motor to generate rotational force turn to the wheels to propel the vehicle. Burn oil to generate rotational force to turn to the wheels and propel the vehicle. ‘nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamLing Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Burn oil to generate rotational force to generate electricity to charge a battery to drive an electric motor to generate rotational force turn to the wheels to propel the vehicle. Burn oil to generate rotational force to turn to the wheels and propel the vehicle. ‘nuff said. Well said. I hope that you wannabe engineers take note. It's about the Conservation of Energy. Energy can't be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form into another and it can flow from one place to another. The total energy of an isolated system remains the same. The only thing that doesn't remain the same is the price!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttechguy Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 Well, I finally saw the Prius 2012. Some call its as ugly design, not really enegry efficient as they say... but... Its worth Car The top option will also get "Solar" panel on top of car to charge battery for AirCon (no, not whole car) so you can turn on the air before starting Car(there are also different conditions of batter level to turn on Air). The concept is good... but expensive also.. whatever.. just want to eco friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Impressive, I wasn't aware it's alternate power was derived from KIRS. So why bother with Volt, Leaf or even Fisker? Sounds like plug in is outdated. Living in Thailand do you think cars in the Prius category, Civic etc justify the 50% premium in purchase price with fuel priced as it is. I'm sure it does in Europe but not so much in Thailand. So what is the approximate cost of a Prius in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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