Yellow Shirt Leader Karun's Long Haul In Bid To Dodge Arrest

[retarius]

This should result in denial of bail since he is clearly a flight risk...betcha he gets bail.

[Thai at Heart]

This should result in denial of bail since he is clearly a flight risk...betcha he gets bail.

he can't even drive himself to Bangkok, although, he does seem to have a passion for airports, but only for viewing purposes.

[gand]

A political prisoner?

[Buchholz]

I hope he's under arrest for the airports case and not for a revenge of the red actual government against the yellow shirts people. A good reason to fight the opponents in gov opposition ! Why does it took so long time to prosecute the PAD responsible of the airports closure at end 2008 ? Is it a for a real lawsuit or just a vengeance ?

Why does it take so long to prosecute PAD for 2008 is a valid concern, but one might say, with even more concern, the same with regards to the delay in prosecuting the Red Shirts for their riot that happened a year and a half before that.

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Edited May 14, 2012 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

This should result in denial of bail since he is clearly a flight risk...betcha he gets bail.

It would show consistency with the Red Shirts, Potjaman, Komnan Po, etc.

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[hellodolly]

^ mca ^ ... I was thinking along the same lines as you.

Actually, for some reason ... I smiling that this news item.

Defiance on both parts ... and a resolve to not deal with the situation at hand ... so very Thai.

I hope they allowed him toilet breaks!

I hope they didn't.

[phiphidon]

He should have put on a 'Red Shirt', then they would not have been able to arrest him.

"Put on a red shirt and you will not be arrested" . To the contrary, it appears that donning a yellow shirt will enable you to time shift - just pop in to the local police station when it's suitable to you and despite facing a charge of terrorism you will get automatic bail. Even if you are sentenced you will not see the inside of a cell. Double standards nnnnnoooooooooooo.

I read arrested in, and with, his car. Where exactly did pop in to the police station, terrorism, or bail appear in the reports? and the pick-up is a Tiger, not a Tardis.

Re double standards, you wouldn't to be accused of casually dropping in lies, would you?

Casually dropping in lies is not my MO,I'll leave that to others. I was merely referring to the 114 PAD members being ordered to report to police back in May 2011 for these offenses and the tardy way a fair few of them decided to do so. It appears that this guy is one of the latecomers. Needless to say he'll probably be granted bail straight away as happened with the rest of his colleagues. According to the law the occupation of the airport was terrorism. As opposed to the treatment of the red shirts who were jailed straight away, it being at least 9 months before any of them being able to apply for bail. So yes I think double standards are afoot here, don't you?

Of the 114 named, 80 have already reported to acknowledge the charges.

Public prosecutors have set June 9 to decide whether to indict all, some or none of the suspects, but considering the lengthy police report and the suspects' petition rebutting the police findings, the deadline might be extended up to 60 days.

http://www.thaivisa....__pad sentenced

http://www.nationmul...--30136669.html

Charges exaggerated http://www.tannetwor...?DataID=1033868

more latecomers http://www.tannetwor...?DataID=1039794

[pauljones]

This is not right.

Yellow shirts get a free pass.

[h90]

They should have welded the moron in.

Easier would be to build a wall around his car.

So he isn't arrested only his car....

[Buchholz]

As opposed to the treatment of the red shirts who were jailed straight away, it being at least 9 months before any of them being able to apply for bail. So yes I think double standards are afoot here, don't you?

Many of the Red Shirt Leaders were fugitives for months and months and received bail in short order.

Three months...

Pheu Thai MP surrenders on terrorism charges

Pheu Thai MP Vichian Khaokham on Thursday surrendered himself to acknowledge his charges related to terrorism triggered by the red-shirt rally from April to May.

After reporting to the Department of Special Investigation, Vichian claimed parliamentary immunity to secure his temporary release.

He cited his hernia surgery as reason to postpone his surrender for more than three months.

-- The Nation 2010-11-18

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Pheu Thai Party MP and Red Shirt Leader Vichian Khaokham (left) being interviewed last March.

Ten months...

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I'm surprised that the notorious Chiang Mai Red Shirt Leader and Chairman of the infamous Love Chiang Mai 51 Group Petcharawat Wattanapongsirikul wasn't automatically proffered as the Pheu Thai Party candidate in the Chiang Mai by-election.

After all, he was previously placed on the Pheu Thai Party-list roster last year, but unfortunately for him, he wasn't placed quite high enough to be rewarded with a party-list MP seat in Parliament.

As an added plus, he still faces multiple criminal charges and would be very comfortable with his Red Shirt cohorts already in Parliament, AND he was a fugitive from the law for 10 months.

Sounds like perfect match.

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Court Approves Arrest Warrant for Chiang Mai Red Shirt Leader

UPDATE : 23 November 2009

Chiang Mai courts have approved an arrest warrant for Petcharawat Wattanapongsirikul, a red shirt leader who threatened the Prime Minister's life on community radio.

http://www.thailando...?DataID=1021437

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hammered said:

LCM51 seem to be the only group doing much now in the northern redoubt of Chaing Mai and LCM51 are on the more troglodyte violent wing of reds with a bit of attacking corn farmers, moderate red groups, an HIV awareness parade and reportedly murder under their belt already.

http://www.thaivisa....25#entry2714306

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A fugitive leader of a red shirt-affiliated group in Chiang Mai has surrendered to police after fleeing the arrest warrant for terrorism and other charges related to the violent protests last year.

Petchawat Wattanapongsirikul, a leader of a red shirt-affiliated group in Chiang Mai province called Love Chiang Mai 51 Group, has turned himself in to investigators at Mae Ping police station.

http://www.thailando...?DataID=1042002

Twenty months...

http://www.thaivisa....50#entry4897707

Fugitive Red Shirt Leader Surrenders

BANGKOK—A fugitive leader of Thailand's so-called Red Shirts protesters surrendered to police in Bangkok on Wednesday after 20 months on the run.

Former pop singer Arisman Pongruangrong escaped a police raid by rappelling down a hotel façade during a government crackdown on a Red Shirt encampment in the capital in last year, capping several months of increasingly violent street protests.

``I only called for democracy, not the destruction of anyone or anything, but now there is no more necessity to stage a rally because we have a government that comes from the people's voice,'' he said.

Edited May 14, 2012 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

This is not right.

Yellow shirts get a free pass.

A free pass preceded by a free pass to the Red Shirts.

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[webfact]

Police release detained Yellow Shirt activist Karun after he rejects all accusations over 2008 airport blockade /MCOT

[Bagwan]

100 yellow shirt supporters in Prakhon Chai? I am surprised. Is Newin losing his grip?

[metisdead]

Some nonsense baiting posts have been removed.

[phiphidon]

As opposed to the treatment of the red shirts who were jailed straight away, it being at least 9 months before any of them being able to apply for bail. So yes I think double standards are afoot here, don't you?

Many of the Red Shirt Leaders were fugitives for months and months and received bail in short order.

snip examples of red shirt leaders

No actually you're right buchholz the red shirts have been treated exactly the same as the yellow shirts , don't know what come over me. The instant the were sentenced they were all granted bail...............Oh

By the way did you see where I mentioned specifically red shirt leaders, oh that s right I didn't - can you guess why I didn't mention them with regard to be being sent to jail for up to 9 months before getting bail - it's because I wasn't talking about red shirt leaders in my post.

[phl]

The court rejected a police request to force open the pickup and bring him out, citing that police have the authority to remove him from the car to proceed with the arrest.

putting aside the funny side of the story, it is rather worrying to know that police do not know their authority even when it comes to matters like this

without any knowledge of the law or anything related, common sense would suggest that if police posses a warrant for arrest, it is irrelevant where the person locks himself, he can be forcibly removed to be placed under arrest

[phl]

Police release detained Yellow Shirt activist Karun after he rejects all accusations over 2008 airport blockade /MCOT

HUH? so they went through all that trouble ONLY to release him because he rejected the accusations?

i am confused, really!!! so does that mean if i ever get arrested and reject all the accusations, i will be set free?

just does not make much sense

[phiphidon]

The court rejected a police request to force open the pickup and bring him out, citing that police have the authority to remove him from the car to proceed with the arrest.

putting aside the funny side of the story, it is rather worrying to know that police do not know their authority even when it comes to matters like this

without any knowledge of the law or anything related, common sense would suggest that if police posses a warrant for arrest, it is irrelevant where the person locks himself, he can be forcibly removed to be placed under arrest

The colour yellow can on occasion cause irrational decisions to be made - it's an unwritten law.

[rubl]

As opposed to the treatment of the red shirts who were jailed straight away, it being at least 9 months before any of them being able to apply for bail. So yes I think double standards are afoot here, don't you?

Many of the Red Shirt Leaders were fugitives for months and months and received bail in short order.

snip examples of red shirt leaders

No actually you're right buchholz the red shirts have been treated exactly the same as the yellow shirts , don't know what come over me. The instant the were sentenced they were all granted bail...............Oh

By the way did you see where I mentioned specifically red shirt leaders, oh that s right I didn't - can you guess why I didn't mention them with regard to be being sent to jail for up to 9 months before getting bail - it's because I wasn't talking about red shirt leaders in my post.

Correct PPD, you weren't talking about red-shirt leaders, just about the normal red-shirts (in a topic on a yellow-shirt leader). Mind you, lots although not all of those red-shirts were jailed after some minor offences like burning down townhalls and the like. In such cases the approach of "let me write down your particulars and we'll mail you the fine or date for the court session" would seem somewhat hilarious. Even in Europe that doesn't always work

Edited May 14, 2012 by rubl

[Buchholz]

As opposed to the treatment of the red shirts who were jailed straight away, it being at least 9 months before any of them being able to apply for bail. So yes I think double standards are afoot here, don't you?

Many of the Red Shirt Leaders were fugitives for months and months and received bail in short order.

snip examples of red shirt leaders

No actually you're right buchholz the red shirts have been treated exactly the same as the yellow shirts , don't know what come over me. The instant the were sentenced they were all granted bail...............Oh

By the way did you see where I mentioned specifically red shirt leaders, oh that s right I didn't - can you guess why I didn't mention them with regard to be being sent to jail for up to 9 months before getting bail - it's because I wasn't talking about red shirt leaders in my post.

Sorry, this being a thread about a PAD Leader, I thought you were comparing like with like.

Instead, you were just veering off-topic then.

Got it.

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[rubl]

The court rejected a police request to force open the pickup and bring him out, citing that police have the authority to remove him from the car to proceed with the arrest.

putting aside the funny side of the story, it is rather worrying to know that police do not know their authority even when it comes to matters like this

without any knowledge of the law or anything related, common sense would suggest that if police posses a warrant for arrest, it is irrelevant where the person locks himself, he can be forcibly removed to be placed under arrest

The colour yellow can on occasion cause irrational decisions to be made - it's an unwritten law.

In the case of Thailand colour blindness can be assumed. Just "do you know who I am" would be sufficient to cause doubt in even the bravest of police officers. TiT, IMHO

Edited May 14, 2012 by rubl

[FOODLOVER]

Some nonsense baiting posts have been removed.

Quack , I was right! They threw grenades! Edited May 14, 2012 by FOODLOVER

[Buchholz]

Police release detained Yellow Shirt activist Karun after he rejects all accusations over 2008 airport blockade /MCOT

HUH? so they went through all that trouble ONLY to release him because he rejected the accusations?

i am confused, really!!! so does that mean if i ever get arrested and reject all the accusations, i will be set free?

just does not make much sense

The other paper explains it better in that he was released at the prosecutor's behest, as he was only required to acknowledge the charges placed against him...the same procedure encountered in other criminal cases.

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[phiphidon]

As opposed to the treatment of the red shirts who were jailed straight away, it being at least 9 months before any of them being able to apply for bail. So yes I think double standards are afoot here, don't you?

Many of the Red Shirt Leaders were fugitives for months and months and received bail in short order.

snip examples of red shirt leaders

No actually you're right buchholz the red shirts have been treated exactly the same as the yellow shirts , don't know what come over me. The instant the were sentenced they were all granted bail...............Oh

By the way did you see where I mentioned specifically red shirt leaders, oh that s right I didn't - can you guess why I didn't mention them with regard to be being sent to jail for up to 9 months before getting bail - it's because I wasn't talking about red shirt leaders in my post.

Correct PPD, you weren't talking about red-shirt leaders, just about the normal red-shirts (in a topic on a yellow-shirt leader). Mind you, lots although not all of those red-shirts were jailed after some minor offences like burning down townhalls and the like. In such cases the approach of "let me write down your particulars and we'll mail you the fine or date for the court session" would seem somewhat hilarious. Even in Europe that doesn't always work

And a lot more were people who just happened to get rounded up and jailed for being in breach of the emergency decree, an heinous offence. Don't you find asking the leaders of the PAD occupation of the airports ( a terrorism offense) to turn up at the police station to be charged a dam_n sight more hilarious, even more so when you are sentenced after court appearances to a couple of years prison and then immediately bailed whilst you sort out an appeal?

[phiphidon]

Police release detained Yellow Shirt activist Karun after he rejects all accusations over 2008 airport blockade /MCOT

I rest my case....................

[FOODLOVER]

Repo

[phiphidon]

As opposed to the treatment of the red shirts who were jailed straight away, it being at least 9 months before any of them being able to apply for bail. So yes I think double standards are afoot here, don't you?

Many of the Red Shirt Leaders were fugitives for months and months and received bail in short order.

snip examples of red shirt leaders

No actually you're right buchholz the red shirts have been treated exactly the same as the yellow shirts , don't know what come over me. The instant the were sentenced they were all granted bail...............Oh

By the way did you see where I mentioned specifically red shirt leaders, oh that s right I didn't - can you guess why I didn't mention them with regard to be being sent to jail for up to 9 months before getting bail - it's because I wasn't talking about red shirt leaders in my post.

Sorry, this being a thread about a PAD Leader, I thought you were comparing like with like.

Instead, you were just veering off-topic then.

Got it.

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Off topic is not going to do it this time buchholz and you know it. This is a clear case of double standards.

[phiphidon]

Police release detained Yellow Shirt activist Karun after he rejects all accusations over 2008 airport blockade /MCOT

HUH? so they went through all that trouble ONLY to release him because he rejected the accusations?

i am confused, really!!! so does that mean if i ever get arrested and reject all the accusations, i will be set free?

just does not make much sense

The other paper explains it better in that he was released at the prosecutor's behest, as he was only required to acknowledge the charges placed against him...the same procedure encountered in other criminal cases.

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Except those encountered in the red shirt cases...............

[phiphidon]

Police release detained Yellow Shirt activist Karun after he rejects all accusations over 2008 airport blockade /MCOT

HUH? so they went through all that trouble ONLY to release him because he rejected the accusations?

i am confused, really!!! so does that mean if i ever get arrested and reject all the accusations, i will be set free?

just does not make much sense

The other paper explains it better in that he was released at the prosecutor's behest, as he was only required to acknowledge the charges placed against him...the same procedure encountered in other criminal cases.

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Except those encountered in the red shirt cases...............

So he acknowledged the charges, rejected them and then is set free - any bail mentioned? Yes, the same procedure as used in other criminal cases, my A!

[rubl]

No actually you're right buchholz the red shirts have been treated exactly the same as the yellow shirts , don't know what come over me. The instant the were sentenced they were all granted bail...............Oh

By the way did you see where I mentioned specifically red shirt leaders, oh that s right I didn't - can you guess why I didn't mention them with regard to be being sent to jail for up to 9 months before getting bail - it's because I wasn't talking about red shirt leaders in my post.

Correct PPD, you weren't talking about red-shirt leaders, just about the normal red-shirts (in a topic on a yellow-shirt leader). Mind you, lots although not all of those red-shirts were jailed after some minor offences like burning down townhalls and the like. In such cases the approach of "let me write down your particulars and we'll mail you the fine or date for the court session" would seem somewhat hilarious. Even in Europe that doesn't always work

And a lot more were people who just happened to get rounded up and jailed for being in breach of the emergency decree, an heinous offence. Don't you find asking the leaders of the PAD occupation of the airports ( a terrorism offense) to turn up at the police station to be charged a dam_n sight more hilarious, even more so when you are sentenced after court appearances to a couple of years prison and then immediately bailed whilst you sort out an appeal?

My dear phiphidon, you complained about a reply because you weren't talking about red-shirt leaders. I replied on red-shirts. To now ask me how I find yellow-shirt leader handling compared to red-shirts, is not really consistent.

To be sure if you'd ask me what I think of the way both yellow and red shirt leaders are handled with common shirts in jail and with all upset and trying to get leaders bailed, or released or even voted in as MP, my answer would be clear: disgusted!