Opposition Leader Adamant On Blocking Reconciliation Bills

[Lite Beer]

Opposition Leader Adamant on Blocking Reconciliation Bills

BANGKOK: -- The leader of the opposition Democrat Party has vowed that he will be willing to put his party's reputation at stake to protest against the reconciliation bills.

He also demands the prime minister show responsibility.

Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict.

He said that instead, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra should postpone deliberation on the bills and be held accountable.

Abhisit added that the bills are also related to state budgets and the issue is important.

The Opposition leader also blamed the lack of explanation from Matubhum Party MP General Sonthi Boonyaratglin, who submitted one of the bills but was absent from the House meeting, and the House speaker for the commotion in the House yesterday.

He believes that the Democrat Party may need to put its reputation at risk to protest against the bill, which if approved, could be more detrimental to the country as wrongdoers could be absolved of their crimes.

Abhisit also commented on the People's Alliance for Democracy's rally in front of the Parliament House, saying that the group is merely protesting against the bills, not attempting to topple the government.

He said as a result, the government is not in the position to demand anything from the protesters and it should show responsibility for what happened yesterday.

-- Tan Network 2012-05-31

[FOODLOVER]

I bet she thinks adamant is a british rock star. Ask her if she ever shows.

[LuckyLew]

"Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict"

Does he think she cares?

[Yunla]

"Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict"

Does he think she cares?

No, he knows what they are about, but he is using rigidly diplomatic language & playing the game along strict democratic principles in order to show her for what she is. She avoids all debates, before and after her election she avoids any serious questioning, and she is absent from almost all aspects of government. Abhisit is using the very tools & language of progressive democracy that she could use, to show the gaping void that exists in her government & her gap-year sabbatical style of leadership.

Ironically Abhisit's enemies on the forum always mocked him for studying in the UK, being too English, but infact I see this as his greatest strength in Thailand today, he learned empirically in England and understands how long it takes to form a stable democracy. For example before PTP came to power, Abhisit had set up several long-term slow-burning schemes to improve the lives of the rural poor in Thailand, not populist overnight fireworks displays but long-term practical solutions that take years to give results, this is the forward-planning he learned from the UKs mistakes and successes. He saw the democratic importance of diplomacy, law, procedure and protocol - without these things there would be no democracy in UK and can be no democracy in Thailand, and Abhisit knows it. Yingluck doesn't know it and her stance as silent amateur shows all the more clearly when Abhisit is criticising her.

Edited May 31, 2012 by Yunla

[Norcan]

Suggest people head over to Bloombergs website and have a squint at their piece on Yinglucks interview this afternoon.

Sent from my GT-I9100T using Thaivisa Connect App

[h90]

"Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict"

Does he think she cares?

No, he knows what they are about, but he is using rigidly diplomatic language & playing the game along strict democratic principles in order to show her for what she is. She avoids all debates, before and after her election she avoids any serious questioning, and she is absent from almost all aspects of government. Abhisit is using the very tools & language of progressive democracy that she could use, to show the gaping void that exists in her government & her gap-year sabbatical style of leadership.

Ironically Abhisit's enemies on the forum always mocked him for studying in the UK, being too English, but infact I see this as his greatest strength in Thailand today, he learned empirically in England and understands how long it takes to form a stable democracy. For example before PTP came to power, Abhisit had set up several long-term slow-burning schemes to improve the lives of the rurall poor in Thailand, not overnight fireworks shows but long-term practical solutions that take years to give results, this is the forward-planning he learned from the UKs mistakes and successes. He saw the democratic importance of diplomacy, law, procedure and protocol - without these things there would be no democracy in UK and can be no democracy in Thailand, and Abhisit knows it. Yingluck doesn't know it and her stance as silent amateur shows all the more clearly when Abhisit is criticising her.

that is enough to mocking him! He still did not understand how politics is made:

You pay for getting elected, you don't need to speak

You pay the MPs to vote for your amnesty or that the sky has to be red and the grass blue...no matter how silly you don't need to discuss it.

While in power you fill your pockets so you have the money for it.

Democratic principles, what is that for?

And improving the rural poors life is plain silly, they will cost more to buy at the next election. And if they start read the newspaper they will ask question.

[animatic]

"Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict"

Does he think she cares?

Doubtful.

But it needs to be said for the public to hear.

[OzMick]

So where's Sonthi - off to Dubai to pick up his cheque?

Or suffering an "ear infection" after selling his country down the drain?

[siampolee]

Indeed Yunia your comments are right on target We English started democracy in 1217 and we're still working on it.

Perhaps if the lady and her brother did some research as to why Magna Carta came into being, who shaped it and what powers it was designed to curb and what justice system sprang from it they might actually learn something.

However the blind faith brother no.1 has in himself is the faith that is trying to destroy the very social and economic structure of Thailand.

No-one is above the law and the use of a parliamentary process to jury rig the justice system of a country is indeed a reprehensible act used only by dictators who are opposed to freedom.

Edited May 31, 2012 by siampolee

[scorecard]

"Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict"

Does he think she cares?

No, he knows what they are about, but he is using rigidly diplomatic language & playing the game along strict democratic principles in order to show her for what she is. She avoids all debates, before and after her election she avoids any serious questioning, and she is absent from almost all aspects of government. Abhisit is using the very tools & language of progressive democracy that she could use, to show the gaping void that exists in her government & her gap-year sabbatical style of leadership.

Ironically Abhisit's enemies on the forum always mocked him for studying in the UK, being too English, but infact I see this as his greatest strength in Thailand today, he learned empirically in England and understands how long it takes to form a stable democracy. For example before PTP came to power, Abhisit had set up several long-term slow-burning schemes to improve the lives of the rurall poor in Thailand, not overnight fireworks shows but long-term practical solutions that take years to give results, this is the forward-planning he learned from the UKs mistakes and successes. He saw the democratic importance of diplomacy, law, procedure and protocol - without these things there would be no democracy in UK and can be no democracy in Thailand, and Abhisit knows it. Yingluck doesn't know it and her stance as silent amateur shows all the more clearly when Abhisit is criticising her.

that is enough to mocking him! He still did not understand how politics is made:

You pay for getting elected, you don't need to speak

You pay the MPs to vote for your amnesty or that the sky has to be red and the grass blue...no matter how silly you don't need to discuss it.

While in power you fill your pockets so you have the money for it.

Democratic principles, what is that for?

And improving the rural poors life is plain silly, they will cost more to buy at the next election. And if they start read the newspaper they will ask question.

Or put it another way, 'join my get rich quick club' and become wealthy very quickly.

Qualifications: immoral, no values, no respect for the polulace, no hesitation to put out your hand for a percenatge, no hesitation to vote according to the foreign dictate, whether you agree or not.

Plus no capability or background in the specific areas of running a country. Chalerm was once the Health minister.

[h90]

So where's Sonthi - off to Dubai to pick up his cheque?

Or suffering an "ear infection" after selling his country down the drain?

maybe shopping?

[Norcan]

This may be of interest to some of you here

Edited May 31, 2012 by Norcan

[h90]

"Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict"

Does he think she cares?

No, he knows what they are about, but he is using rigidly diplomatic language & playing the game along strict democratic principles in order to show her for what she is. She avoids all debates, before and after her election she avoids any serious questioning, and she is absent from almost all aspects of government. Abhisit is using the very tools & language of progressive democracy that she could use, to show the gaping void that exists in her government & her gap-year sabbatical style of leadership.

Ironically Abhisit's enemies on the forum always mocked him for studying in the UK, being too English, but infact I see this as his greatest strength in Thailand today, he learned empirically in England and understands how long it takes to form a stable democracy. For example before PTP came to power, Abhisit had set up several long-term slow-burning schemes to improve the lives of the rurall poor in Thailand, not overnight fireworks shows but long-term practical solutions that take years to give results, this is the forward-planning he learned from the UKs mistakes and successes. He saw the democratic importance of diplomacy, law, procedure and protocol - without these things there would be no democracy in UK and can be no democracy in Thailand, and Abhisit knows it. Yingluck doesn't know it and her stance as silent amateur shows all the more clearly when Abhisit is criticising her.

that is enough to mocking him! He still did not understand how politics is made:

You pay for getting elected, you don't need to speak

You pay the MPs to vote for your amnesty or that the sky has to be red and the grass blue...no matter how silly you don't need to discuss it.

While in power you fill your pockets so you have the money for it.

Democratic principles, what is that for?

And improving the rural poors life is plain silly, they will cost more to buy at the next election. And if they start read the newspaper they will ask question.

Or put it another way, 'join my get rich quick club' and become wealthy very quickly.

Qualifications: immoral, no values, no respect for the polulace, no hesitation to put out your hand for a percenatge, no hesitation to vote according to the foreign dictate, whether you agree or not.

Plus no capability or background in the specific areas of running a country. Chalerm was once the Health minister.

you got it!

That is the way "Democracy" works

[whybother]

This may be of interest to some of you here

“Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people,”

So, is she planning a referendum on the subject?

[Norcan]

This may be of interest to some of you here

“Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people,”

So, is she planning a referendum on the subject?

Don't be too harsh on her, at least she's in her work clothes for once.

It's that "MUST" word that needs more explanation though; I am sure you will agree.

[ianf]

"Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict"

Does he think she cares?

No, he knows what they are about, but he is using rigidly diplomatic language & playing the game along strict democratic principles in order to show her for what she is. She avoids all debates, before and after her election she avoids any serious questioning, and she is absent from almost all aspects of government. Abhisit is using the very tools & language of progressive democracy that she could use, to show the gaping void that exists in her government & her gap-year sabbatical style of leadership.

Ironically Abhisit's enemies on the forum always mocked him for studying in the UK, being too English, but infact I see this as his greatest strength in Thailand today, he learned empirically in England and understands how long it takes to form a stable democracy. For example before PTP came to power, Abhisit had set up several long-term slow-burning schemes to improve the lives of the rural poor in Thailand, not populist overnight fireworks displays but long-term practical solutions that take years to give results, this is the forward-planning he learned from the UKs mistakes and successes. He saw the democratic importance of diplomacy, law, procedure and protocol - without these things there would be no democracy in UK and can be no democracy in Thailand, and Abhisit knows it. Yingluck doesn't know it and her stance as silent amateur shows all the more clearly when Abhisit is criticising her.

This is one of the best posts I have ever seen on TV. Well done. Absolutely spot on.

[FOODLOVER]

Indeed Yunia your comments are right on target We English started democracy in 1217 and we're still working on it.

Perhaps if the lady and her brother did some research as to why Magna Carta came into being, who shaped it and what powers it was designed to curb and what justice system sprang from it they might actually learn something.

However the blind faith brother no.1 has in himself is the faith that is trying to destroy the very social and economic structure of Thailand.

No-one is above the law and the use of a parliamentary process to jury rig the justice system of a country is indeed a reprehensible act used only by dictators who are opposed to freedom.

Indeed Yunia your comments are right on target We English started democracy in 1217 and we're still working on it.

Perhaps if the lady and her brother did some research as to why Magna Carta came into being, who shaped it and what powers it was designed to curb and what justice system sprang from it they might actually learn something.

However the blind faith brother no.1 has in himself is the faith that is trying to destroy the very social and economic structure of Thailand.

No-one is above the law and the use of a parliamentary process to jury rig the justice system of a country is indeed a reprehensible act used only by dictators who are opposed to freedom.

I banged my head on the monitor! Whats with the wine staine.

[siampolee]

Foodlover .

I presume that you mean the large red blob?

That was or still is in fact the official wax seal applied I presume at the time of signing..

Lets face it, if you were around 795 years old you would look a bitty tatty and moth eaten.

Edited May 31, 2012 by siampolee

[mca]

Lets face it, if you were around 795 years old you would look a bitty tatty and moth eaten.

Some of the westerners in LOS manage that by their early 50s if that.

[bigbamboo]

Naturally KY wants her brother back but the law should apply to politicians just the same as everyone else.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

[FOODLOVER]

Indeed Yunia your comments are right on target We English started democracy in 1217 and we're still working on it.

Perhaps if the lady and her brother did some research as to why Magna Carta came into being, who shaped it and what powers it was designed to curb and what justice system sprang from it they might actually learn something.

However the blind faith brother no.1 has in himself is the faith that is trying to destroy the very social and economic structure of Thailand.

No-one is above the law and the use of a parliamentary process to jury rig the justice system of a country is indeed a reprehensible act used only by dictators who are opposed to freedom.

Indeed Yunia your comments are right on target We English started democracy in 1217 and we're still working on it.

Perhaps if the lady and her brother did some research as to why Magna Carta came into being, who shaped it and what powers it was designed to curb and what justice system sprang from it they might actually learn something.

However the blind faith brother no.1 has in himself is the faith that is trying to destroy the very social and economic structure of Thailand.

No-one is above the law and the use of a parliamentary process to jury rig the justice system of a country is indeed a reprehensible act used only by dictators who are opposed to freedom.

I banged my head on the monitor! Whats with the wine staine.

No tissue?

[siampolee]

Some of the westerners in LOS manage that by their early 50s if that.

Ye Gods I've been outed.

[FOODLOVER]

I bet she thinks adamant is a british rock star. Ask her if she ever shows.

I bet she thinks adamant is a british rock star. Ask her if she ever shows.

[media=]

[/media]

I can do that, sorry hehehe

Juat watched, used to could do that. WIth coffee, alot Actually could never do that. I retract my staement but look just like him but better.

Edited May 31, 2012 by FOODLOVER

[FOODLOVER]

Some of the westerners in LOS manage that by their early 50s if that.

Ye Gods I've been outed.

Again?!

[djjamie]

"Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the opposition Democrat Party, believes that the reconciliation bills could damage the country's legal system and fuel a new round of political conflict"

Does he think she cares?

No, he knows what they are about, but he is using rigidly diplomatic language & playing the game along strict democratic principles in order to show her for what she is. She avoids all debates, before and after her election she avoids any serious questioning, and she is absent from almost all aspects of government. Abhisit is using the very tools & language of progressive democracy that she could use, to show the gaping void that exists in her government & her gap-year sabbatical style of leadership.

Ironically Abhisit's enemies on the forum always mocked him for studying in the UK, being too English, but infact I see this as his greatest strength in Thailand today, he learned empirically in England and understands how long it takes to form a stable democracy. For example before PTP came to power, Abhisit had set up several long-term slow-burning schemes to improve the lives of the rural poor in Thailand, not populist overnight fireworks displays but long-term practical solutions that take years to give results, this is the forward-planning he learned from the UKs mistakes and successes. He saw the democratic importance of diplomacy, law, procedure and protocol - without these things there would be no democracy in UK and can be no democracy in Thailand, and Abhisit knows it. Yingluck doesn't know it and her stance as silent amateur shows all the more clearly when Abhisit is criticising her.

Brilliantly said and so true.

[gand]

Crime does not only pay, it pays big.

[hellodolly]

This may be of interest to some of you here

Typical PT nonsense

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Yingluck Says Thai Majority Must Support Law to Free Brother

By Daniel Ten Kate and Haslinda Amin - May 31, 2012 1:13 PM GMT+0700

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Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra backed her ruling party’s moves to pass a law that may exonerate her fugitive brother, saying a resolution of political turmoil since a 2006 coup will lead to stability.

“Reconciliation must be accepted by the majority of the people,” Yingluck said in an interview in Bangkok today, amid opposition to draft proposals that call for an amnesty for certain charges since the generals ousted her brother, Thaksin Shinawatra. “We got the clear mandate from the people.”

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Yingluck Shinawatra, Thailand's prime minister. Photographer: Brent Lewin/Bloomberg

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May 31 (Bloomberg) -- Bloomberg's Haslinda Amin reports on Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra comments about her ruling party's moves to pass a law that may exonerate her fugitive brother, Thaksin Shinawatra. Yingluck spoke from the World Economic Forum on East Asia in Bangkok. Amin reports on Bloomberg Television's "First Look." (Source: Bloomberg)

Thailand’s 500-member parliament represents the country’s 66 million people and is the best place to resolve differences that have spawned deadly street protests in recent years, Yingluck said, without endorsing any of the four specific proposals, all of which would clear her brother. Her Puea Thai party won a majority in elections almost 11 months ago.

The comments represent the most public endorsement of her party’s efforts to pass a law clearing the way for Thaksin to return to Thailand after he fled a jail sentence in 2008. She is banking on her parliamentary majority and improved relations with the military to avoid a repeat of protests that year that saw her brother’s opponents seize Bangkok’s airports.

“Now the situation is different again because people learn enough after the coup,” Yingluck, 44, said. “The people who start the coup, like General Sonthi, also admit that this is not the right way to solve the problem.”

She is the Prime Minister.

Why does she say people must white wash her brother why dosen't she say her brother must obey the law.

On a thing as important as trying to bring the different sides together why is she not in the house?

She should have nothing to fear she speaks good Thai and I don't believe there are any native English speaking Thai's there.

[gand]

They should have the people vote on it, but they won't, so soon TS will be back and there will be big trouble.

[tragickingdom]

The Democrats (actually anti democrats) just lost their next election. Voters are not stupid, they will realize that Abhisit and his cronies bring chaos to the streets and that he only can come into power by a putsch. The push for a ICC ruling over the rape of democracy 5 years ago will only increase.

[OzMick]

The Democrats (actually anti democrats) just lost their next election. Voters are not stupid, they will realize that Abhisit and his cronies bring chaos to the streets and that he only can come into power by a putsch. The push for a ICC ruling over the rape of democracy 5 years ago will only increase.

Did you write for Pravda?