animatic Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 quote name='h90' timestamp='1341565184' post='5459308' Come on! It is complete irrelevant what someone in Thailand fills. The USA is doing what they want, they did worse things than brake a extradition treaty with a country that no US president since Carter can even find on the map. Oh, I don't know about that - I imagine Clinton knows where Phuket and Pattaya are! I believe she knows Phuket and Pattaya. But can she find it on the map, a real with all that strange countries with similar names...Taiwan, Thailand, Taipei, all full with yellow people who steal American jobs, or Arab terrorists or European monarchists. Some are friendly some not. It isn't easy for the land of the free home of the brave. Uhmmmm.... you were talking about Presidents. I was referring to Bill, not Hillary. Last off-topic post from me on this thread: Both Clinton and Bush were here in 2005, after the tsunami. http://billclintonda...onesia-sri.html Obviously about Bill, and obviously tongue in cheek. Where the cigar was put is another issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) ... Two words, Noppadon. Prove it. ... Yeah I want to see the long form visa application! Where's Donald Trump when you want him? (He's a birther; I'm a mirther.) Edited July 6, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Without the information on the application for a visa, it is very difficult to speculate. We don't know what type of visa he applied for and received. Is it a tourist visa or a business visa? Having a criminal record does complicate the visa process, but it does not preclude someone from getting a visa. There are some crimes that will exclude an applicant from a visa, such as crimes against humanity and some drug convictions (trafficking). In order for him to be extradited, there has to be an extradition order. An extradition order would occur at a high level--I believe the Foreign Ministry. His sister is PM, so it's likely that there is no extradition order. He would have to overcome two presumptions to be given the visa: First, that he would become a public charge and second, that he is likely to remain in the US. (Also, an off-topic post has been deleted) All they need is evidence of Thaksin getting part of a kick-back from a USA company and they can hjold and prosecute him easy as pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Yeah I want to see the long form visa application! Where's Donald Trump when you want him? Plus detailed medical records and long form proctology exam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Without the information on the application for a visa, it is very difficult to speculate. We don't know what type of visa he applied for and received. Is it a tourist visa or a business visa? Actually, without proof, we don't know if he even has a visa. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Without the information on the application for a visa, it is very difficult to speculate. We don't know what type of visa he applied for and received. Is it a tourist visa or a business visa? Actually, without proof, we don't know if he even has a visa. . i'll bet he does though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Yeah I want to see the long form visa application! Where's Donald Trump when you want him? Plus detailed medical records and long form proctology exam. How do we know Thaksin isn't a unicorn? Unicorns can't get visas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 The USA is a good place for Thaksin in my opinion........ I think he should run for President. The Democrats all ready have there shoo in but there is still time to buy the Republicans. Besides if it is a fact why is it not being publicized by a reputable source. If they have a extradition treaty with the states can the states initiate the process? Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Without the information on the application for a visa, it is very difficult to speculate. We don't know what type of visa he applied for and received. Is it a tourist visa or a business visa? Actually, without proof, we don't know if he even has a visa. . i'll bet he does though. I'll wait for the proof. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) Yeah I want to see the long form visa application! Where's Donald Trump when you want him? Plus detailed medical records and long form proctology exam. How do we know Thaksin isn't a unicorn? Unicorns can't get visas. If Thaksin was a Unicorn, then Noppadum would have a narrow concave hole in his forehead that goes all the way through. From all the constant kissing up to the boss. Which might explain this persistant whistling sound, when he's let out of his closet into a mild breeze. Edited July 6, 2012 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) I'll wait because the last time this yokel made a similar proclamation it turned out to be completely bogus: December 05, 2010 Voice of America News An aide to Thaksin Shinawatra says Thailand's former prime minister will visit Washington next week to testify about the political and human rights situation in Thailand. Noppadon Pattama, the legal representative for Mr. Thaksin, said Monday that the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe has invited him to testify in the U.S. capital on December 16. http://www.voanews.c...939/166737.html Edited July 6, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I'll wait because the last time this yokel made a similar proclamation it turned out to be completely bogus: December 05, 2010 An aide to Thaksin Shinawatra says Thailand's former prime minister will visit Washington next week to testify about the political and human rights situation in Thailand. Noppadon Pattama, the legal representative for Mr. Thaksin, said Monday that the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe has invited him to testify in the U.S. capital on December 16. http://www.voanews.c...939/166737.html so... are you waiting or are you speculating? i'm confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) I'll wait because the last time this yokel made a similar proclamation it turned out to be completely bogus: December 05, 2010 An aide to Thaksin Shinawatra says Thailand's former prime minister will visit Washington next week to testify about the political and human rights situation in Thailand. Noppadon Pattama, the legal representative for Mr. Thaksin, said Monday that the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe has invited him to testify in the U.S. capital on December 16. http://www.voanews.c...939/166737.html so... are you waiting or are you speculating? i'm confused What are you confused about? I'm waiting for proof or corroboration because the source is unreliable. . Edited July 6, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Let's say he doesn't have a visa. That puts the US government in a sticky situation. If they report no he doesn't have a visa, that disrespects Sister's government. So I bet they would say nothing. Either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) I'll wait because the last time this yokel made a similar proclamation it turned out to be completely bogus: December 05, 2010 An aide to Thaksin Shinawatra says Thailand's former prime minister will visit Washington next week to testify about the political and human rights situation in Thailand. Noppadon Pattama, the legal representative for Mr. Thaksin, said Monday that the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe has invited him to testify in the U.S. capital on December 16. http://www.voanews.c...939/166737.html so... are you waiting or are you speculating? i'm confused What are you confused about? I'm waiting for proof or corroboration because the source is unreliable. . confused that you said you would wait for the proof and then speculated that it might be bogus. i was therefore confused on what you mean by the 'wait' for proof. i thought you meant you would wait on making a speculation of whether it's true or not, guess not. so i'm no longer confused about it. Edited July 6, 2012 by nurofiend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Obviously the US State Dept,( Hillary Clintons domain), who oversees such visas has a certain vision for the future cooperation between the two countries under the second Thaksin regime. He can brief them about the discussions between the current foreign minister and China and the nasa project. Cuts both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I'll wait because the last time this yokel made a similar proclamation it turned out to be completely bogus: December 05, 2010 An aide to Thaksin Shinawatra says Thailand's former prime minister will visit Washington next week to testify about the political and human rights situation in Thailand. Noppadon Pattama, the legal representative for Mr. Thaksin, said Monday that the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe has invited him to testify in the U.S. capital on December 16. http://www.voanews.c...939/166737.html so... are you waiting or are you speculating? i'm confused What are you confused about? I'm waiting for proof or corroboration because the source is unreliable. . confused that you said you would wait for the proof and then speculated that it might be bogus. i was therefore confused on what you mean by the 'wait' for proof. i thought you meant you would wait on making a speculation of whether it's true or not, guess not. so i'm no longer confused about it. I explained the reason I would wait for proof is because the source is not credible. The source is not credible for the reasons I cited. I'm not speculating that he has one or doesn't have one. I don't know because I haven't seen proof. Pretty simple, really, but if you're no longer confused, even if it's for the wrong reason, I don't want you to struggle further. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I explained the reason I would wait for proof is because the source is not credible. The source is not credible for the reasons I cited. I'm not speculating that he has one or doesn't have one. I don't know because I haven't seen proof. Pretty simple, really, but if you're no longer confused, even if it's for the wrong reason, I don't want you to struggle further. . stating that the source is not credible is speculating on whether he might have one or not in my book, but i guess we're reading from different books. so, as you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 FLICK U 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermark Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Seems strange the American autjorities let a criminal on the run into USA while Julian Assange is being hounded for telling the honest truth Either you are fabulously naive, or you just do not understand US foreign policy. If you are our friend, we like you and work with you, regardless of your ethics or human rights record. One need only look as far as Bharain, or Saudi Arabia. If you do not play nice, we come after you. Victor Bout, Noriega, Saddam, and on and on. All friends of the US at one point, while they were useful and cooperative. Foreign policy of an empire on the wane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I explained the reason I would wait for proof is because the source is not credible. The source is not credible for the reasons I cited. I'm not speculating that he has one or doesn't have one. I don't know because I haven't seen proof. Pretty simple, really, but if you're no longer confused, even if it's for the wrong reason, I don't want you to struggle further. stating that the source is not credible is speculating on whether he might have one or not in my book, but i guess we're reading from different books. so, as you were. whatever makes you happy the important thing is you're no longer confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcharanan Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 FLICK U That passport picture doesn't look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Let's say he doesn't have a visa. That puts the US government in a sticky situation. If they report no he doesn't have a visa, that disrespects Sister's government. So I bet they would say nothing. Either way. If he dosen't they will say a lot if he tries to enter the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I explained the reason I would wait for proof is because the source is not credible. The source is not credible for the reasons I cited. I'm not speculating that he has one or doesn't have one. I don't know because I haven't seen proof. Pretty simple, really, but if you're no longer confused, even if it's for the wrong reason, I don't want you to struggle further. . stating that the source is not credible is speculating on whether he might have one or not in my book, but i guess we're reading from different books. so, as you were. enough you two Beam me up Scotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 FLICK U That passport picture doesn't look right. I couldn't even figure out what country it was from. He has three of them that I know of. The stamp was useless to. Do you think maybe being a clone he is starting to be like his clone sister. Never pass up a opportunity for a photo op? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandjoe Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Seems strange the American autjorities let a criminal on the run into USA while Julian Assange is being hounded for telling the honest truth Either you are fabulously naive, or you just do not understand US foreign policy. If you are our friend, we like you and work with you, regardless of your ethics or human rights record. One need only look as far as Bharain, or Saudi Arabia. If you do not play nice, we come after you. Victor Bout, Noriega, Saddam, and on and on. All friends of the US at one point, while they were useful and cooperative. Foreign policy of an empire on the wane. With a little help from your friends i hasten to add ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) Let's say he doesn't have a visa. That puts the US government in a sticky situation. If they report no he doesn't have a visa, that disrespects Sister's government. So I bet they would say nothing. Either way. If he dosen't they will say a lot if he tries to enter the country. My point was meant to suggest the possibility there is no visa and the announcement of the visa is just to make Thaksin look more internationally acceptable as a message to the domestic Thai audience. So if that's the case they can say he has a visa and I think the US won't say anything to confirm or deny. That's just being diplomatic. Edited July 6, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 .enough you two Beam me up Scotty. I most certainly will not beam you up! I have, however, deleted some posts with profanity and all caps as well as replies. Now your stuck here far from the Mother Ship, but please stay on topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Seems strange the American autjorities let a criminal on the run into USA while Julian Assange is being hounded for telling the honest truth Maye they only like to allow thieving liars to enter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 FLICK U That passport picture doesn't look right. Neither does his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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