connda Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I've been a critic of the use of the phrase "The Land of Smiles" to describe Thailand for quite a while. From the time I got off the plane at Suvarnabhumi five years ago, the first thing I met was "grumpy" -- i.e., Immigration. Then off to my hotel to meet, "grumpy" -- hotel clerk. Then off to a restaurant to meet, "grumpy" -- waitress. Those who weren't "grumpy" were generally hustling: Tuk tuk drivers (where you go), bargirsl (hello handsome man), taxi drivers (I love farangs and somtum), upscale any-store (you buy, mai?) The service industry, that which I interface with on a day-to-day basis, is full of examples of pathetically poor customer service. I guess as a Farang, I thought this was targeted toward me. Wrong. Five years later, I live in a small rural between Lamphun and Lampang. As far as I know, I'm the only farang in the mountain valley that I live in. I also spend time in Chiang Mai and Lamphun. What I still see is certain lapses in customer service: restaurant workers seldom smile, but not just to me, to their Thai customers too. Tuk tuk drivers hustle me with the "fake" smile, but tuk tuk drivers hustle Thais with the "fake" smile too. Upscale stores and salons smile at anyone with the potential of lining their pockets -- smiles for hire. So where is this elusive "Land of Smiles?" It's out in the middle of nowhere and it's in the middle of the cities. It's in the villages. Maybe it's in the inter-city communities too. It's in the fabric of the community. It's in the families. It is here! If you can integrate yourself into a community, you will see it. If you take the time to learn the language and communicate, you will see it. It is there! You need to know where to look. So comments fellow Farang: Where do you find Smiles in "The Land of Smiles" mai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Semper Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 Everywhere, except in places for tourists. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommoPhysicist Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Who cares about service staff smiling? Was at a coffee bar this morning, smiled randomly at a few attractive girls, most smiled back ....... that's what I like about Thailand. Edited July 18, 2012 by TommoPhysicist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 Everywhere, except in places for tourists. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 My wife who like me is a Farang says yes " They always smile when they take your money " !!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 They are fed up with grumpy farangs. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wamberal Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 The smile, in Thai culture, means something very different to the meaning in western culture. It is not surprising that Thai people who deal with westerners do not smile. Would you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi41 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 My wife who like me is a Farang says yes " They always smile when they take your money " !!!!!! She should see the smiles, you get when you are having an evening out with "the boys" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Everywhere, except in places for tourists. Agreed! Agreed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 My wife who like me is a Farang says yes " They always smile when they take your money " !!!!!! That are the Chinese Thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 My wife who like me is a Farang says yes " They always smile when they take your money " !!!!!! That are the Chinese Thais I.e. landlords, shopkeepers etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessi Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 My wife who like me is a Farang says yes " They always smile when they take your money " !!!!!! I agree with your wife if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 My wife who like me is a Farang says yes " They always smile when they take your money " !!!!!! That are the Chinese Thais I.e. landlords, shopkeepers etc... yes....everyone that is owner. Than there staff has no reason to smile. All others do smile.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Semper Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 I remember last years flooding (not too much in CM, but still). I walked (waded) in knee-high water to the local shop to by some beer and there was a lot of people sitting outside and having a beer or two, all smiles. Had this been in Farang land, they would have been busy making nooses and wills. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I remember last years flooding (not too much in CM, but still). I walked (waded) in knee-high water to the local shop to by some beer and there was a lot of people sitting outside and having a beer or two, all smiles. Had this been in Farang land, they would have been busy making nooses and wills. I waded in the next 7/11 who had on stock: 1 can of Tuna in Mayonnaise sauce (no one wanted to buy that). No water, no orange juice, no coke. But they had the Bacardi breezer. I took 10 and at the counter they made an annoyed face (no smile)....No....3 PM....no alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 In the village where I live the smile is alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nocturn Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 same shit, different day on thai visa. how many times can "you people" have the same conversation? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 same shit, different day on thai visa. how many times can "you people" have the same conversation? Another day tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulysses G. Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) I get more nice smiles here than any other country that I have ever been to. Maybe someone has some kind of personal problem? Edited July 18, 2012 by Ulysses G. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I get more nice smiles here than any other country that I have ever been to. Maybe the OP has some kind of personal problem? Trainers, l bet Trainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I get more nice smiles here than any other country that I have ever been to. Maybe the OP has some kind of personal problem? Trainers, l bet Trainers. Yeah, learn to wear flip-flops like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 Out riding the bike daily I get smiles from complete strangers in rural villages. It's probably because I smile a lot myself, unlike many other Farang that I come across when I'm out shopping. If you took all the Thai's out of Thailand and just left the Farang's, it would be renamed 'Land of miserable gits' ! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globalight Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I find often that 'young white skinned people especially with blonde hair are given smiles everywhere' ESPECIALLY western women! Now being a tall dark and handsome type here over age 30 will get you a lot of upside down smiles and dirty looks. I've observed a place in Kanchanaburi where an italian friend of mine around 35 years old with a trimmed beard bought something at a market stall and he was frowned at and treated rudely. Next comes in the 25 year old swedish couple and you could see all the Thai's smiling and saying "Suay Mak mak". So I think it is the land of smiles if your young, pale, handsome or beautiful. Anyone who looks like a mexican, indian or iranian will be treated as an enemy. Your in the land of superficiality. Skin whitening products and plastic surgery are some of the biggest money makers known to man here in Thailand. The Land of Smiles for those with full wallets, white skin and blonde hair! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Smiling yourself and speaking some Thai really brings out the smiles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Funny thing about a smile... It says everything and it says nothing. Attitude is perhaps more important. How you act and how others perceive you is what life is all about. Your perception is rather like looking at a rubrik cube. How do you perceive it to be? Behaviour breeds behaviour. Personally - I have never had this problem. Took as I found and still do. I am not a 'New kid on the block'. I have been here a number of years and lived in a variety of places but yes, Chiang Mai is now my domicile. For sure, there are charlatans and crooks (as there are all over the world)... but the everyday people will respond to you as you inititially act towards them. Have the courtesy, if not not to learn Thai language, just to learn a few simple polite phrases. It will go along way and help to make a 'bridge'. I wish you luck ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globalight Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Smiling yourself and speaking some Thai really brings out the smiles. I dont have a pretty smile and I don't like to wear a facade. If others smile at me I smile back in return. Sometimes speaking some time will bring smiles but KNOWING too much will bring gossip and slander... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globalight Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 typo, time=thai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkokhatter Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Nonsense thread, every day at work me and my colleagues smile all the time, actually have a good laugh many days, at my local bar the regulars always smile, as for me local 7-11, well you may have a point ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennedy Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I love the smiles from the old sweet hearts in the village where I live. Teeth or no teeth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Smiling yourself and speaking some Thai really brings out the smiles. Correct, and i live in a tourist island; when i am in a good mood and i smile, i get plenty of smiles back.. ...When i go back for the yearly visit to homecountry, i have to be careful with strangers, someone seem to take my smile as an insult ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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