Lao-American Couple Shot In Nong Khai

[george]

Police investigate slaying of Lao-American couple

BANGKOK: -- Thai police have launched an investigation into the shooting in northern Thailand of a U.S. couple who claimed to be descendents of Laos' former royal family, police said Thursday.

Lao-American Anouvong Sethathirath IV and his Thai-American wife Oulayvanh were gunned down Wednesday morning by unidentified assailants as they visited a Buddhist temple in Nong Khai city, 500 kilometres northeast of Bangkok, on the Thai-Lao border.

"Judging from the VCD they were carrying, the couple claimed to be descendents of the former Lao royal family and this had some connection with the killing," said Police Colonel Nathiwudh Pongsima, deputy police chief of Nong Khai.

Nathiwudh said police had launched an investigation into the slaying. The gunman shot Anouvong three times in the head and Oulayvanh once in the stomach.

Anouvong described himself as a "prince," and his wife as a "princess."

Leading members of Laos's former royal family, once based in Luang Prabang, were sent for "re-education" after the land-locked country opted for a communist regime in 1975.

They are presumed dead, although the ruling government has never officially explained what happened to the royals. Hundreds of thousands of Lao fled their homeland after it went communist with many seeking resettlement in the US and Europe.

Anouvong and Oulayvanh, residents of North Carolina, were frequent visitors to north-east Thailand where they contributed to several charities dedicated to the preservation of Lao culture.

--Bangkok Post/DPA 2006-01-19

[sriracha john]

HRH Prince Anouvong Sethathirath IV and HRH Princess Oulayvanh Sethathirath

additional info from AP:

HRH Prince Anouwong Sethathirath IV and HRH Princess Oulayvanh Sethathirath, were 49 and 38 years old respectively.

No arrests or suspects have been announced in the case.

Sethathirath is the royal line of Laos' Sisattanakhanahut kingdom, also known as Lan Xang. The couple was not directly related to Savang Vatthana, the last king of Laos, who was forced to abdicate his throne after a communist takeover of his country in 1975. The Sethathirath family last ruled a part of Laos in the 19th century.

The couple resided in Fairview, N.C., a suburb of Asheville, according to newspaper accounts. Both were U.S. citizens.

Police said they were shot a a pavilion at the monastery at about 10 a.m. The Thai television station ITV reported that witnesses said that gunmen wearing coats and black sunglasses walked into the pavilion and killed them.

According to a profile of the couple published earlier this month in the Asheville Citizen-Times newspaper, they were to attend a cultural conference in Thailand this month for the Lan Xang people, and had frequently visited Thailand, especially the northeast, whose residents are ethnically related to the Lao.

Although some refugees from Laos have been involved in violent activities against the country's communist government, the couple was not known to be involved with them. Most exiled members of the late king Savang Vatthana live in France.

[chuchok]

I bet there will be no rush to solve this one.poor buggers.

[sriracha john]

Perhaps... (operative word here) their status as either Americans or as exiled royalty improve the chances, but I won't hold my breath.

Edited January 19, 2006 by sriracha john

[Johpa]

Police said they were shot a a pavilion at the monastery at about 10 a.m. The Thai television station ITV reported that witnesses said that gunmen wearing coats and black sunglasses walked into the pavilion and killed them.

I am glad the gunmen were not wearing khaki pants, black shoes, and white t-shirts for a change.

It will be inetersting if this significant assasination will get as much ink as the criminal murder of a single Farang murder. Royalty claims can have implications on both sides of the river.

BTW, years ago one of the English language papers in Bangkok ran a detailed article on how the last Lao Royals perished in a Pathet Lao "labor" camp.

[sriracha john]

Police said they were shot a a pavilion at the monastery at about 10 a.m. The Thai television station ITV reported that witnesses said that gunmen wearing coats and black sunglasses walked into the pavilion and killed them.

It will be inetersting if this significant assasination will get as much ink as the criminal murder of a single Farang murder.

Last night's broadcast of Star News Asia had it as one of their main pieces.

[sriracha john]

Associated Press adds:

Police in Thailand said Thursday that the couple who've been living in a suburb of Asheville may have been killed by Laotian agents on suspicions that they were working against the communist regime. A Laotian official denied it.

[sriracha john]

Soldier a prime suspect in killing of American couple

During their investigation into the recent slaying of two Lao-Americans, a special police task force zeroed in on a Thai military sergeant as a prime suspect.

The group of senior police officers headed by Major Aswin Kwang-muang, deputy commander of the Central Investigation Bureau, held a meeting with local police officers and US Embassy officials in Nong Khai to discuss the murder on Wednesday.

US citizens Anouvong Sethathi-rath and his wife Oulayvanh Set-hathirath, both of whom claimed descent from the kings of Lan Xang, were shot dead on Wednesday in a Buddhist monastery in the North-eastern province.

The couple arrived in Thailand the week before to attend a conference in neighbouring Udon Thani province to promote Lao identity and culture.

Witnesses said two men had walked into the monastery and executed the husband and wife at close range at about 10am as they were about to pray.

Police believe the gunmen were Thai nationals, one of whom may be a military officer with the rank of sergeant who had previously met a senior Lao military officer on the Lao side of the Mekong River. Police gave no further details about the identity of the suspected soldier but noted that political motives might have been behind the apparently targeted assassination of the couple.

Despite their monarchist leanings, the couple seemed to have maintained no close contacts with political movements or armed groups hoping to overthrow the government in Laos.

A Lao official, however, said that monarchist feelings and claims of royal descent were very sensitive issues politically in the country.

The couple are not the first Lao activists to have been killed in Thailand.

Several Lao dissidents have died in Thailand since late 2003, when Sisouk Sayaseng, the suspected leader of an attack on the Vang Tao checkpoint in Laos’s Champassak province in July 2000, was shot dead in Ubon Ratchathani.

Phra Uthai Thammasopit, an elderly Buddhist monk who was a former captain in the Laotian Royal Army, was shot dead in Bangkok last October following the death of many fellow royalist military officers who fled from Laos after the communist takeover of 1975. None of the cases has been solved.

[stevesbigtrip]

sounds like thai intellingence services are involved or at least are aware of it if several ex Royalist Officers have been killed

[richard10365]

For someone who claims to royalty, they should have been aware of the possible threat to their lives and taken their security a little more seriously.

You wouldn't see George Bush walking around Bagdad without an escort. They were foolish for thinking they could walk around Thailand without one as well.

[sriracha john]

As a non-violent couple doing humanitarian projects, I can see why they didn't see the need for tight security. No real reason to bear grudges against them. They didn't advocate the overthrow of the communist Lao government.

I could also see why the desire of likely millions of people to have a grudge against GWB would necessitate an entire contigent of security for him.

[bannork]

The temple they were killed in, Wat Sala Kaeow Koo or Wat Khaek, is one of the most bizarre in Thailand, featuring dogs wearing sunglasses and erections, riding motorbikes, sports cars,etc. The original owner and spiritual leader was an opponent of the Pathet Lao who fled across the Mekhong to Nongkhai after the communists took over in 1975. He died several years ago.

I doubt that the temple is an active centre for opposition to the Lao government but that surely is the motive for the killing of the couple, very sad.

[sriracha john]

Police suspects in Isan murder of Lao couple

Bangkok Post

A number of police officers are thought to have been involved in the murder of a Lao-American couple in Nong Khai province and will be arrested if the evidence against them proves to be solid, a police source said. National police chief Pol Gen Kowit Wattana yesterday ordered Pol Maj-Gen Yuthana Palanitisena, the Nong Khai police chief, to to report to him on the progress of the probe into the murder of Anouvong Sethathirat IV and his wife Oulayvanh by two men inside the compound of Wat Kaewkoo monastery last Wednesday.

Before his death, Anouvong identified himself as an exiled prince of the Lao royal family who had lived in the United States since the communist takeover of Laos in 1975. He met and married Oulayvanh, a native of Nong Khai's Tha Bo district, in North Carolina.

A police source said Pol Gen Kowit called Pol Maj-Gen Yuthana to a meeting after receiving a report that the gunmen were probably police officers who were previously under his command when he was deputy investigation chief at Region 4 police headquarters.

The report said the identities of the officers were known and they would be arrested if an examination of the bullets retrieved from the murder scene proved they were fired from their weapons.

The national police chief might transfer Pol Maj-Gen Yuthana elsewhere to facilitate the investigation, the source said.

The source said the Royal Thai Police Office wanted to get rid of police officers said to have been involved in the murders of Lao people in the Northeast, particularly Nong Khai where four Lao have been killed and no arrests made.

The national police office did not want such illegal activity occuring in the country even if it was politically motivated.

Deputy Prime Minister and Justice Minister Chidchai Wannasathit, who oversees police affairs, declined to comment when asked if the gunmen who killed the Lao-American couple were policemen.

He did admit that US consular staff were also following up on the case, which was still under investigation.

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Yet another murder apparently involving policemen... *sigh*

[chuchok]

I'm just amazed on how there is no public outcry on TV.If this couple had different coloured skin and came from a different country..hmmm.I wonder how many posts there would be by now.

I hope they catch the pricks that were responsibe and they get the needle.

[sriracha john]

Bullet casings provide clues in couple’s deaths

Bullet casings found at Buddhist monastery in Thailand where a Lao-American couple were shot to death came from guns used almost exclusively by police and soldiers, a Bangkok newspaper reported Monday.

Several Thai police officers are being investigated in the killings, The Nation reported.

The couple referred to themselves as Prince Anouvong Sethathirath IV and Princess Oulayvanh Sethathirath, saying they were descendants of a king who ruled Laos in the early 19th century. They had traveled to Thailand several times in recent years on goodwill missions to promote and preserve Lao culture, friends say.

Witnesses to the shooting said gunmen wearing black sunglasses walked into the monastery and shot the McRowans at close range, using the 11mm pistols carried by police and soldiers.

Thai police do not suspect the killings had a connection to Laos, The Nation reported.

K. Ray Bailey, president of Asheville-Buncombe Technical Community College, said Ashley McRowan had invited him along on this trip, but he had been unable to clear his schedule to go.

“I asked if they were not frightened going as the prince and princess,” Bailey said Monday. “She said no, that they would be in Thailand and the Thai police would protect them.”

Funeral arrangements for the couple are not complete, but some plans are under way.

Donnie Moose, chairman of the social ministry committee of Faith Lutheran Church in Faith, N.C., knew Ashley McRowan, since Lutheran churches across the state were sponsoring Laotian refugees in the late 197os and ’80s. Ashley’s family was sponsored by his church.

He said the bodies would be brought back to the United States, probably to Salisbury, for services.

=citizen-times.com

[Jai Dee]

THE PRESS BRIEFING ON THE MURDER OF LAO-US COUPLE HAS BEEN CANCELLED

The Royal Thai Police Spokesperson, Pol. Lt. Gen. ACHIRAWIT SUPHANNAPHAESAT (อชิรวิทย์ สุพรรณเภสัช), has cancelled the press briefing on the progress of the case of Mr. ANOUWONG (อนุวงศ์) and his wife URAIWAN SETHATHIRATH (นางอุไรวัน เศรษฐาธิราช) who were murdered in Nong Khai (หนองคาย) Province.

Last Wednesday (Jan. 25th), Pol. Lt. Gen. ACHIRAWIT mentioned that the details of the victims will be known within 48 hours, and the press briefing has been scheduled to take place today.

However, the Royal Thai Police Spokesperson reasoned that he has some other responsibilities at the moment, and that the authorities already have the details of the suspects. They are now compiling all the evidences, especially the weapons used in the crime scene.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 27 January 2006

[sriracha john]

Police said to be behind killing

Bangkok Post

A number of police officers were involved in the murder of a Lao-American couple in Nong Khai on Jan 18, deputy national police chief Pol Lt-Gen Priewphan Damapong said yesterday.

Pol Lt-Gen Priewphan said preliminary investigation revealed that an ''order'' was sent from Laos to certain Thai policemen to kill Anouvong Setthathirat and his wife Oulayvanh, who were on a hit-list. He did not elaborate on who issued the order.

Why not?

He said the couple's murder was linked to many others in the Northeast involving members of the Lao resistance movement against Vientiane.

Police investigators believed the two were members of the resistance.

Pol Lt-Gen Priewphan said a number of Region 4 police officers were involved, but their identities could not be revealed.

Hmmm...Why not? Especially when you pretty much "reveal" who they are in the following paragraph?

However, he said that Pol Snr Sgt-Maj Thaweesak Singprasert and Pol Snr Sgt-Maj Niran Duangchansri, both of Muang district police station of Nong Khai province, were among the suspects. Investigators were gathering evidence to seek a court warrant for their arrest.

Pol Col Sommai Kongwisaisuk, deputy investigation chief of Region 4 police headquarters, has been transferred to temporary duties at Loei provincial police headquarters to facilitate the investigation.

Two 11mm guns seized from the houses of Pol Snr Sgt-Maj Thaweesak and Pol Snr Sgt-Maj Niran have been sent for examination in Bangkok to find out if they were the weapons used in the murder.

[JohnOFphon]

For someone who claims to royalty, they should have been aware of the possible threat to their lives and taken their security a little more seriously.

You wouldn't see George Bush walking around Bagdad without an escort. They were foolish for thinking they could walk around Thailand without one as well.

I personally would love to see George Bush walk around Bagdad without an escort. He would get what's coming to him.

[chuchok]

I'm still amazed how the TV moral high groung have made bugger all comments about this.

Pol Lt-Gen Priewphan has already admitted that Police are responsible for this cold blooded murder.

when will they bring these murdering pricks to trial.

[crying freeman]

My name is MOUA Koumisith.

I have lived and grown up in France since 1978.

My origins are Hmong-lao and a French residant.

From 2002 to 2004, I was in Thailand and I created a tourism company in car location and as a guide to tourist in the city of PHRAPHOUTHABATH... C.SARABURI. I had the same problem as the american couple that was assassinated on January 18th 2006, at NONG KHAI in Thailand.

It happened on August 30th 2003 between 10:30 to 11:30 am, in the downtown of LOPBURI, when the civilians were all outside; the Thai secret services had tried to assassinate with killers but I escaped them.

On April 7th 2004, the same persons has tried to trap me by hiding drugs inside my car (by using 4 of my employees). Luckily, the Thai police has not found anything in my car.

By analysing, I am sure that the thai authority, the Thai secret service, le military, the police, and the governement were especially concerned in those attempts to assassinate me in their country . The investigation were classed too quickly because they are doing everything to cover it up.

I am also sure that it is the communist gouvernement Pathet Lao that has paid the Thai authority to organise those attempts.

I am ready to give a million of baths to anyone who can give me information to help me find those who are behind all of these attempts.

I am also ready to give my life assurance of about 4 million bath (100 000 dollar US) to anyone who will help me catch them and deliver them to the Thai justice.

You can contact me by ***PM ***

[greenwanderer108]

Crying Freeman,

you're best to contact one of the many private eyes...though they got got to have big balls if they take on your case...

I know of one who is daring, skilled enough to take on a case like yours...

what was his name...uh...oh yea

Calvino something...that's it

You'll have to contact Christopher Moore for that guy though.

Lots of political drives I don't get here...is it just money, or are there other kickbacks/forces aligning the Thai police and Lao Communist regeme?

Is it anything like the secret aliance between the Thai military and Red Khmer back in the day??

[Jai Dee]

Funeral held for N.C. couple slain in Thailand

The Associated Press - February 05, 2006

A funeral Sunday for a slain Lao-American couple from North Carolina who claimed to be descendants of Laos' royal family featured Christian burial rites, a Buddhist ceremony and speakers from Laos, America and Cuba.

More than 200 people attended the service for Phillip and Ashley McRowan of Fairview, the Asheville Citizen-Times reported for Monday's editions. They were gunned down in broad daylight on Jan. 18 at a Buddhist monastery in northeastern Thailand's Nong Khai province.

Phillip McRowan, who was 49, claimed to be related to a family that ruled a Lao-based 19th-century kingdom. The couple also called themselves Prince Anouvong Sethathirath IV and Princess Oulayvanh Sethathirath. Ashley McRowan was 37.

"Why did they go back?" asked the Rev. Glenn M. Zorb of Haven Lutheran Church in Salisbury, where Phillip McRowan defected to America after studying medicine in Cuba. "They went back because they wouldn't have had it any other way. In them was a deep sense that they had been loved, so they would be loving in return."

Friends said the couple were campaigning to preserve Lao culture and traditions.

Police in Thailand have said the couple had appeared to be involved in political activities, and that persons in Laos may have ordered them killed. Investigators believed the couple were in Thailand to gather financial support for a political movement against Laos' communist government, police have said.

The McRowan leave behind two sons, Kenneth, 16, and Edward, 10, who are staying with relatives in Raleigh. Phillip McRowan also has another son, William Salas, from a previous marriage.

[phibunmike]

Police said they were shot a a pavilion at the monastery at about 10 a.m. The Thai television station ITV reported that witnesses said that gunmen wearing coats and black sunglasses walked into the pavilion and killed them.

I am glad the gunmen were not wearing khaki pants, black shoes, and white t-shirts for a change.

It will be inetersting if this significant assasination will get as much ink as the criminal murder of a single Farang murder. Royalty claims can have implications on both sides of the river.

BTW, years ago one of the English language papers in Bangkok ran a detailed article on how the last Lao Royals perished in a Pathet Lao "labor" camp.

Anyone interested in the fate of the Lao royal family should read "Bamboo Palace" by Christopher Kremmer.

[sriracha john]

UPDATE ...a sad one due to the lack of any substantial progress...

Answers evasive in killing of royals

Asheville Citizen-Times Newspaper

May 20, 2006 12:15 am

Five months after the slaying of a prominent Fairview couple who claimed royal Lao heritage, police appear no closer to solving the case than they did in January.

“I looked into the file, and it’s still pending with the police investigation,” said Chombhala Chareonying, minister counselor with the Thai embassy in Washington. “That’s about it. They’re still investigating the killings.”

Phillip and Ashley McRowan, who lived in Fairview for more than a decade, were gunned down Jan. 18 while visiting a Buddhist monastery in northeast Thailand near the border with Laos. The couple, who went by His Royal Highness Prince Anouvong Sethathirath IV and Princess Oulayvanh Sethathirath, claimed to be of royal Lao heritage and promoted Lao culture.

They had gone to their native region on a cultural mission, a seminar called “Restoration of Lao Culture” in Udon Thani, Thailand. Immediately after the slayings, which occurred in daylight and were carried out by men in dark suits and sunglasses, some officials speculated the hard-line communist government in Laos may have hired Thai police or army soldiers to eliminate the couple.

Some who knew the McRowan family are skeptical that anyone will ever be brought to justice.

“They’ll never find them,” said John McAfee, the drama director at Reynolds High Schools, where the McRowan’s oldest son, Kenneth, went to school. McAfee is a former Green Beret who served in Vietnam and Laos during the Vietnam War.

“Along that border with Laos, it’s a lawless land with guerrillas who come across when they want to and warlords with 7,000-, 10,000-man armies,” he said. “I just feel like Thailand — those people in there, they’ve been bought off.”

Philip Smith, executive director of the Center for Public Policy Analysis, a nonprofit think tank in Washington, with a focus on national security and foreign policy, knew the McRowans and had worked with them on Lao issues. He calls their murders an assassination and blames forces within the Lao and Thai governments who were threatened by the McRowans’ nationalistic leanings.

“Both the military and the police would like to sweep this case under the rug and keep the real identities of the killers secret,” Smith said. “They want to make sure the real motives for the killings are buried forever with Mr. McRowan and his wife.”

Chareonying said the police have no suspects at this point, but he insisted that Thailand’s Crime Suppression Division, which he said is similar to the FBI, is pursuing the investigation. Initial reports of Thai army or police involvement were erroneous, he said.

“I think many people were misinformed by officials who came out and didn’t know the whole background,” he said.

Laura Stone, deputy press attaché with the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok, said via e-mail that consular officials there are “actively pursuing this case.”

“The American Ambassador, Ralph Boyce, sent a letter to the governor regarding the case on Feb. 7 expressing his concern,” Stone said. “American consular officials from the American Citizen Services Section have followed up regularly with the Thai authorities (both in writing and by phone), who inform us that the investigation is ongoing, but that no arrests have been made.”

Rick Schwein, supervisor of the FBI’s Asheville office, said to his knowledge the “Thai authorities have never asked for the FBI’s assistance on that investigation — certainly not locally.”

Western North Carolina residents who knew the McRowans say they were interested only in helping Lao children and spreading Lao culture, but Phillip McRowan had been critical of the Lao government and active in promoting Lao culture.

Phillip McRowan claimed to be a descendant of a Lao king who ruled Laos in the early 19th century. His wife, Ashley, became a princess when they married as 1987.

He worked as a pathologist assistant with Mountain Area Pathology at Mission Hospitals, where he was well-liked and highly regarded by colleagues. McRowan graduated as a medical doctor from a Cuban university and had worked at Mountain Area Pathology for about nine years.

Ashley McRowan also worked at Mission Hospitals, volunteering at the information desk on the St. Joseph Campus from 2002 until August 2005. She was studying for a degree in international studies at UNC Asheville.

A UNC Asheville spokeswoman said the school is planning a memorial service and a tree-planting when classes resume in late summer.

The couple’s two children, Kenneth and Edward, who had attended Fairview Elementary School, are now living with relatives in another part of the state.

McAfee said the brothers came to Reynolds last weekend to watch the school’s production of “Beauty and the Beast.”

“(Kenneth) looked real good — more mature and more serious than he used to be, of course,” McAfee said. “And his little brother is still a little clingy. He hates for Kenneth to go off and leave him.”

While McAfee remains skeptical about a resolution in the case, Chareonying says people should not give up hope.

“I think there are a lot of murder cases in this world that have not been resolved, but I don’t think they have given up that hope yet,” he said.

[sriracha john]

IMPORTANT UPDATE

Arrests have been made... with extremely ominous assertions made:

Two men arrested for allegedly killing opponents of Lao government

Ubon Ratchathani - Two Thai men have been arrested by Crime Suppression Division police for alleged involvement in the murders of a Lao-American couple and they claimed they had been hired to assassinate 17 opponents of the Lao government.

The arrests of Arthit Klinchan, 25 and Suwat Sutthang, 35, were announced at a press conference Thursday by Pol Maj Gen Assawin Kwanmuang, a deputy commissioner of the Central Investigation Bureau who supervises the CSD.

Continued here:

http://nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/r...newsid=30004895

[sriracha john]

Accused assassins claim Laos paid them

Two suspected gunmen arrested on Wednesday in connection with a host of political killings in the Northeast said they were hired by a neighbouring country to kill Lao dissidents in Thailand, police said yesterday.

The pair confessed they had killed 17 people here , including Lao-American social activists Anouvong and Oulayvanh Sethathirath, who were shot at a monastery in Nong Khai on January 18. The couple lived recently in North Carolina, where they were known as Philip and Ashley McRowan. They claimed to be descendants of King Xay Sethathirath, the founder of Vientiane.

Continued here:

http://nationmultimedia.com/2006/05/26/hea...es_30004965.php

[Patex]

...“They’ll never find them,” said John McAfee, the drama director at Reynolds High Schools, where the McRowan’s oldest son, Kenneth, went to school. McAfee is a former Green Beret who served in Vietnam and Laos during the Vietnam War.

“Along that border with Laos, it’s a lawless land with guerrillas who come across when they want to and warlords with 7,000-, 10,000-man armies,” he said. “I just feel like Thailand — those people in there, they’ve been bought off.”...

Thank you for the updates, John (not only this one )

This Green Beret guy made my day... Now we are writing the year 2006, is there nobody who could tell "MacAfee" that the war is over...

[sriracha john]

...“They’ll never find them,” said John McAfee, the drama director at Reynolds High Schools, where the McRowan’s oldest son, Kenneth, went to school. McAfee is a former Green Beret who served in Vietnam and Laos during the Vietnam War.

“Along that border with Laos, it’s a lawless land with guerrillas who come across when they want to and warlords with 7,000-, 10,000-man armies,” he said. “I just feel like Thailand — those people in there, they’ve been bought off.”...

Thank you for the updates, John (not only this one )

This Green Beret guy made my day... Now we are writing the year 2006, is there nobody who could tell "MacAfee" that the war is over...

mai pen rai, Patex... happy to provide the information on this neglected case. It just gets more and more shocking with developments.

on a lighter note, the "Sargent's" words did get a raised eyebrow from me as well when I read it.

When I pictured a Nam Green Beret vet now teaching drama in a stateside high school... well, I just wondered what kind of school plays they end up with...

[ColPyat]

This Green Beret guy made my day... Now we are writing the year 2006, is there nobody who could tell "MacAfee" that the war is over...

Well, someone should tell the many Hmong who still fight an insurgency in Laos that the war is over. And it should also be told to the many Laotian exiles who still try to topple the Laotian government.

Maybe, if all those people are told that the war is over, it might really be over one day.

[Patex]

I've always thought McAfee is now fighting his war against the evil computervirus... but as you said, shocking developments - or should we say: fullfilled expectations?