Benzin Vs. Gasohol

[mania]

Cool i got ninja 300se

Stock. Just changed air filter for better one..

U need give me some advices on upgrades...

I got akropovich exchust in mind next but its 20000. I was saving for it but spend it on ps4 ...

mataleo

Hahah thats ok I have often thought of buying a Sony Vita PS4 just to play motoGP

Upgrades most bikes are the same for power upgrades...increase intake by lessening restriction...same for Exhaust

then adjust fuel maps to make use of it thru the use of an EFI controller like power commander,

Juice box etc.

After that it will get expensive if you want to do engine work like cams, head work, porting etc.

As for Exhausts yes some are better than others but back to lessening restriction

I would not justify 20k exhaust on many bikes if an alternative exists

I had a Devil full system 16k baht & now run the DBS locally made system 10.5k baht.

Happy enough with it. The Devil gave a tiny more on top but was very very loud.

Of course depending on what you want but for me,

I only did engine work after addressing tires,suspension & brakes

Have Fun

Edited March 17, 2014 by mania

[mataleo]

Cool i got ninja 300se

Stock. Just changed air filter for better one..

U need give me some advices on upgrades...

I got akropovich exchust in mind next but its 20000. I was saving for it but spend it on ps4 ...

mataleo

Hahah thats ok I have often thought of buying a Sony Vita PS4 just to play motoGP

Upgrades most bikes are the same for power upgrades...increase intake by lessening restriction...same for Exhaust

then adjust fuel maps to make use of it thru the use of an EFI controller like power commander,

Juice box etc.

After that it will get expensive if you want to do engine work like cams, head work, porting etc.

As for Exhausts yes some are better than others but back to lessening restriction

I would not justify 20k exhaust on many bikes if an alternative exists

I had a Devil full system 16k baht & now run the DBS locally made system 10.5k baht.

Happy enough with it. The Devil gave a tiny more on top but was very very loud.

Of course depending on what you want but for me,

I only did engine work after addressing tires,suspension & brakes

Have Fun

Exhust i just change for sound

I like bit louder then stock

I dont want go crazy with it.. so i think exhust be my last thing..

They got Devil in Pattaya

How much is DBS?

I like akro for sound but its slip on..

mataleo

[mania]

I had a Devil full system 16k baht & now run the DBS locally made system 10.5k baht.

How much is DBS?

10,500 baht

PS if sound you like is Akro

you should stick with it. But yes slip on

It does have a nice tone.

So does Scorpion Serket Taper which is similar or Yoshimura

I think all priced about the same as they are all imports.

But those can be had as a full system too

Devil & DBS are made in Thailand

Edited March 18, 2014 by mania

[mataleo]

Send me photo ur bike with dbs prv

mataleo

[speedtripler]

I had a Devil full system 16k baht & now run the DBS locally made system 10.5k baht.

How much is DBS?

10,500 baht

PS if sound you like is Akro

you should stick with it. But yes slip on

It does have a nice tone.

So does Scorpion Serket Taper which is similar or Yoshimura

I think all priced about the same as they are all imports.

But those can be had as a full system too

Devil & DBS are made in Thailand

there are very similar "copies" of famous exhuasts available in thailand now

some are even branded with the name but cost 5-8K in some shops

heres a clone of the akrapopvic full system ,fitted for 13k ,slip on alone costs about 8k

Edited March 18, 2014 by speedtripler

[mania]

Send me photo ur bike with dbs prv

mataleo

Many photos here

Should post in the Ninja thread as we are getting pretty Off benz/gasohol Topic here

http://www.ninja250thailand.com/board/index.php?topic=2249.3240

[mataleo]

I had a Devil full system 16k baht & now run the DBS locally made system 10.5k baht.

How much is DBS?

10,500 baht

PS if sound you like is Akro

you should stick with it. But yes slip on

It does have a nice tone.

So does Scorpion Serket Taper which is similar or Yoshimura

I think all priced about the same as they are all imports.

But those can be had as a full system too

Devil & DBS are made in Thailand

there are very similar "copies" of famous exhuasts available in thailand now

some are even branded with the name but cost 5-8K in some shops

heres a clone of the akrapopvic full system ,fitted for 13k ,slip on alone costs about 8k

Didnt know theres copies..

I guess rubbish. As making akropovich exhust is very advanced process..

mataleo

[speedtripler]

Didnt know theres copies..

I guess rubbish. As making akropovich exhust is very advanced process..

mataleo

check some thai sites and classified ads and you will see how extensive the copying is

one guy even said his copy produced almost the same performance increase and weight decrease

when they tested it on the dyno

the sound was very similar as well and most people probably couldnt tell the differnce for about 40% of the price of the original

ive seen slip on mufflers from akro and other big name brands from 5500+ upwards and guys

selling them will usually put it on for you for an extra 100- 200thb

dont know what it would be like after a year or two ,copied anything is usually made of the cheapest material they can get their hands on

but if i was strapped for cash 28,000 for an original or around 7,000 for a copy id be tempted to try out the copy version and see if its ok

[mania]

dont know what it would be like after a year or two ,copied anything is usually made of the cheapest material they can get their hands on

but if i was strapped for cash 28,000 for an original or around 7,000 for a copy id be tempted to try out the copy version and see if its ok

True longevity may be the difference but also

many should realize that many brands are not even made in country of advertiser

Meaning it would not be surprising to learn if a company like 2 bro actually have their

cans made in Taiwan. Because Taiwan has extensive experience in carbon fiber etc.

Sometimes I think these cans are either excellent copies or back door originals

with no label.

Lastly at the end of the day pick any can up & look thru it....They are not

high tech....any of them really. It is a can with packing around a perf tube.

mehhhh

I think the full systems pipes is much more important. Size & how they flow the

spent gases etc.

End cans are just a basic silencer. So for a slip on? Personally I would spend very little

Edited March 18, 2014 by mania

[ll2]

dont know what it would be like after a year or two ,copied anything is usually made of the cheapest material they can get their hands on

but if i was strapped for cash 28,000 for an original or around 7,000 for a copy id be tempted to try out the copy version and see if its ok

True longevity may be the difference but also

many should realize that many brands are not even made in country of advertiser

Meaning it would not be surprising to learn if a company like 2 bro actually have their

cans made in Taiwan. Because Taiwan has extensive experience in carbon fiber etc.

Sometimes I think these cans are either excellent copies or back door originals

with no label.

Lastly at the end of the day pick any can up & look thru it....They are not

high tech....any of them really. It is a can with packing around a perf tube.

mehhhh

I think the full systems pipes is much more important. Size & how they flow the

spent gases etc.

End cans are just a basic silencer. So for a slip on? Personally I would spend very little

Got a 5000 thb bluekraft pipe, least expensive pipe for cbr500r and it was quite ok both for extra performance, sound and look.

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[BBJ]

As yest haven't tried PT as the one near me doesn't sell benzine.

Tried caltex and after 3 refills it pops and puffs on decelaration and sometimes missus on accelaration through traffic.. Found no benefit over the Gasohol 91 I was using from Shell.

However, and much to my surprise, PTT Benzine 95 purchased at the garage just after Fashion Island, Ram Intra is much better. No pops or puffs. As for running better, I'm not sure as it is hard to tell. V-Power 95 was just as good as the Benzine from PTT in my opinion.

[mataleo]

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mataleo

[01322521959]

My little Honda Tena seems to hate anything other than benzine. Carb spotless, jets clean. Where is benzine sold now in Wippawaddee area?

[YipYipYa123]

if you dont post nonsense, i dont answer. pretty easy.

Actually you should go back and read what he wrote (in too many words possibly): 95 benzine is better than gasohol of any octane. He also verified the need to remap the er6n to make better use gashol. All these things makes perfect sense.

I think all this is true

If I leave my bike unattended for a few weeks with gssihol it won't start

Real petrol (ie benzine) I can leave it 6 months and it still starts on the first turn off the key)

For me anyway, that speaks volumes....

[paz]

I think all this is true

If I leave my bike unattended for a few weeks with gssihol it won't start

Real petrol (ie benzine) I can leave it 6 months and it still starts on the first turn off the key)

For me anyway, that speaks volumes....

On the other hand even the expensive benzine is not as good as fresh after many months so the best approach when storing vehicles for a long time is to leave as less fuel as possible and refill with fresh one before starting.

[YipYipYa123]

I think all this is true

If I leave my bike unattended for a few weeks with gssihol it won't start

Real petrol (ie benzine) I can leave it 6 months and it still starts on the first turn off the key)

For me anyway, that speaks volumes....

On the other hand even the expensive benzine is not as good as fresh after many months so the best approach when storing vehicles for a long time is to leave as less fuel as possible and refill with fresh one before starting.

thats true as well but sometimes im ust too lazy or dont have time to drain the tank

other times i go away and im away longer than i expected to be etc