Did Clint Eastwood Lose The Plot At Romney's Convention?

[chiangmaikelly]

Lose the plot?

1) No self-respecting American would even talk like that. Which leads us to:

2) Who in the US cares what a newspaper in Australia says about anything having to do the the US presidential election? Let me help you out: NO ONE.

Why is it that non-Americans get diarrhea of the mouth (pen) when talking about US politics?

Johnsonspot hit the nail on the head when describing Americans' attitude for the rest of the world when he said, "Who in the US cares what a newspaper in Australia says about anything having to do the the US presidential election? Let me help you out: NO ONE."

He's absolutely right that Americans don't care about any other people or any other country in the world. To US Americans, the USA and ONLY the USA is the world. The rest of the more than 200 nations on Earth are there only to be violently exploited for America's hyper-consumerism when it suits them.

Unfortunately, the USA is an extremely dangerous rouge nation, so YES Johnsonspot, the terrified masses around the world are very concerned about US politics and where their armed forces will strike and destroy next. You refer to people with questions and opinions about US politics as those having verbal diarrhea, and I can understand why US citizens would want to belittle anybody who attempts to understand their politics and politicians. After all, the USA has become the most loathed country in the world, probably faster than any other nation in history.

But getting to the point of the OP, I have lost all respect for Clint Eastwood. He made a pathetic fool of himself, and the RNC people must feel like complete idiots for allowing Eastwood to ramble on and on and on in such a childish and ridiculous manner. Nobody was the winner in that awful display.

But what does it matter, anyway? Obama has proven that it makes absolutely no difference if a person votes Red or Blue. Almost everybody will agree that Bush Jr. was a most dangerous and worst president in US history. When Obama was elected, the world gave a collective sigh of relief, sure that something would be done to help repair the damage done by Bush's unjustified invasions, conflicts and general injustices. But after 4 years, the global-US picture remains the same, and in truth more troops were sent to Afghanistan by Obama than Bush.

Is this thread about Bush?

Gee, let's see. My post was 5 paragraphs, and Bush is mentioned in ONE of them, so I think any reasonably intelligent person could tell that, NO, the thread isn't about Bush, and neither is my post.

It seems that chiangmaikelly desperately wanted to say something negative about my post but could think of anything of intelligence or substance.

Actually I was trying to think of something nice to say. You would not be trying to turn a thread about a Clint Eastwood speech into an anti American rant would you? Edit to try and stay more on topic.

Edited August 31, 2012 by chiangmaikelly

[Pimay1]

OK back on topic. Can anyone of the posters of this thread who have trashed Clint and his speech tell us anything he said that was not true? If so please elaborate for discussion sake. Sure it was a little rambling at times but what was wrong with the core message?

I'm still waiting patiently guys and girls. Surely you can justify your opinion with facts right?

[johnsonspot]

Poor guy, it certainly was bizarre. He is 82 years old though. "Go ahead, make my, um, oh". Senility hits us all at some point.

At one point, Eastwood said he "never thought it was a good idea for attorneys to be president," apparently unaware that Romney holds a law degree.

Apparently you are unaware that holding a law degree does not make one a lawyer.

[Ulysses G.]

Clint is a very old guy that put on a lousy performance, but his heart is in the right place and the speeches by Condo Rice, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney were excellent.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Ulysses G.

[koheesti]

Of course his speech and most of the other speakers during the three day love/hate fest for the irrational, climate change denialist, anti health care for poor people, anti-science, pro creationist poppycock, anti-civil rights party were mostly more substantial than their actual nominee -- Romney.

The topic of this thread is whether or not Eastwood has lost the plot not whether or not you have as your reply above would strongly suggest.

Edited August 31, 2012 by koheesti

[Jingthing]

As anyone can easily glean from this list, most of the greatest U.S. presidents including the most legendary iconic republican one, Abraham Lincoln, were ... lawyers.

http://www.infopleas...a/A0768854.html

Of course there have also been poor presidents who have been lawyers.

So basically, it's an irrelevant detail.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Jingthing

[uptheos]

Clint is a very old guy that put on a lousy performance, but his heart is in the right place and the speeches by Condo Rice, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney were excellent.

As was Marco Rubio's.

Didn't need the Clint Eastwood thing, unless they feel threatened in middle America.

Edited August 31, 2012 by uptheos

[koheesti]

As anyone can easily glean from this list, most of the greatest U.S. presidents including the most legendary iconic republican one, Abraham Lincoln, were ... lawyers.

Obama ain't no Lincoln.

from Clint's speech..

But I just think that there is so much to be done, and I think that Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan are two guys that can come along. See, I never thought it was a good idea for attorneys to the president, anyway.

(APPLAUSE)

I think attorneys are so busy -- you know they’re always taught to argue everything, and always weight everything -- weigh both sides...

EASTWOOD: They are always devil’s advocating this and bifurcating this and bifurcating that. You know all that stuff. But, I think it is maybe time -- what do you think -- for maybe a businessman. How about that?

(APPLAUSE)

A stellar businessman. Quote, unquote, “a stellar businessman.”

And I think it’s that time. And I think if you just step aside and Mr. Romney can kind of take over. You can maybe still use a plane.

http://www.washingto...89_story_1.html

Edited August 31, 2012 by koheesti

[uptheos]

Didn't Romney go to Harvard law school, pass the bar but never worked as an attorney?

[Ulysses G.]

Of course there have also been poor presidents who have been lawyers.

True, but he wrote a couple of decent books first.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Ulysses G.

[canuckamuck]

I wish Eastwood was running and Romney was making the speech.

[lomatopo]

Poor guy, it certainly was bizarre. He is 82 years old though. "Go ahead, make my, um, oh". Senility hits us all at some point.

At one point, Eastwood said he "never thought it was a good idea for attorneys to be president," apparently unaware that Romney holds a law degree.

Apparently you are unaware that holding a law degree does not make one a lawyer.

Agreed. Gov. Romney did pass the bar exam in Michigan after getting, along with an MBA from HBS, a JD from Harvard Law.

Perhaps Clint meant to say that he thinks it is a bad idea for practicing attorneys to become president? Who knows what he was thinking, or meant?

Quite a few U.S Presidents, a majority I believe, were lawyers including John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and Bill Clinton among others.

"But backstage, stern-faced Romney aides winced at times as Eastwood's remarks stretched on."

Talking to an empty chair, rambling actually, was just weird. Am looking forward to a better performance in "Trouble with the Curve".

[chooka]

Wouldn't this be better in a U.S news forum rather than world news? The U.S Election is soley about the U.S and the world actually couldn't care less, we are not voting in it only the Americans.

[HerbalEd]

He's an old man. I think Clint Eastwood is beloved by all political persuasions in the USA for his show business career. I don't think he swayed many swing voters with his convention speech though. Which was the point. Of course his speech and most of the other speakers during the three day love/hate fest for the irrational, climate change denialist, anti health care for poor people, anti-science, pro creationist poppycock, anti-civil rights party were mostly more substantial than their actual nominee -- Romney.

You ever see his wife? She sizzzzzles.

[Ulysses G.]

Wouldn't this be better in a U.S news forum rather than world news? The U.S Election is soley about the U.S and the world actually couldn't care less, we are not voting in it only the Americans.

There are a good number of non-Americans posting about the U.S. election on here that prove you wrong.

[Ianatlarge]

My thought, why is the actor so easily confused with the role he or she plays? I am thinking of Arnie here. I recall so many conservatives stating idiotically that Arnie was going to roll into town and fix things in Calif. Two terms and not much changed. Clint? A dozen or so entertaining movies. Great, but does that make him a political expert, no.

Romney strikes me as a disaster waiting to happen. The average US religious believer is bad enough, wanting to ban the teaching of evolution and science, building 'museums' with saddles on dinosaurs, but a Mormon is two steps further into wacky town. I will make a prediction. Romney will screw up big at least once, maybe several times in the campaign, and lose by a sizeable margin. Hoping.

[Ulysses G.]

He's an old man. I think Clint Eastwood is beloved by all political persuasions in the USA for his show business career. I don't think he swayed many swing voters with his convention speech though.

I don't know. He made a few good points and most networks are just playing these two soundbites:

"Whether you are a Democrat or Republican or whether you’re libertarian or whatever, you are the best. And we should not ever forget that. And when somebody does not do the job, we got to let them go."

"Of course we all know Biden is the intellect of the Democratic party. Kind of a grin with a body behind it."

Edited August 31, 2012 by Ulysses G.

[Scott]

Wouldn't this be better in a U.S news forum rather than world news? The U.S Election is soley about the U.S and the world actually couldn't care less, we are not voting in it only the Americans.

Then this thread is one you can give a miss to. There is no obligation to read or post on threads that do not interest you.

[koheesti]

My thought, why is the actor so easily confused with the role he or she plays? I am thinking of Arnie here. I recall so many conservatives stating idiotically that Arnie was going to roll into town and fix things in Calif. Two terms and not much changed. Clint? A dozen or so entertaining movies. Great, but does that make him a political expert, no.

He was also mayor of a small California city. Does that make him an expert? Well, it's more executive experience at a governmental position than Obama had in 2008 or just about all of the numerous Hollywood liberals giving their "expert" advice. Martin Sheen is one exception. I believe he was mayor of Malibu.

That said, I don't think Clint was speaking as a political expert. We have enough of them and they have spent decades running the country into the ground.

[johnsonspot]

Wouldn't this be better in a U.S news forum rather than world news? The U.S Election is soley about the U.S and the world actually couldn't care less, we are not voting in it only the Americans.

[Scott]

Wouldn't this be better in a U.S news forum rather than world news? The U.S Election is soley about the U.S and the world actually couldn't care less, we are not voting in it only the Americans.

Another one that might need to be reminded that he is neither obligated nor required to read or respond to threads.

Further trolling will result in suspension.

[KKvampire]

All talking about President Obama. What did Romney do as Governor of Mass and at Bain? He doesnt want to talk about that or what he did believe in on a host of issues. Its just attacking the President and alot of it he agreed with , Stimulus package being a prime example, Bunch of Hypocrites . And of course The Cons always hate Hollywood , except when they can drag up an old actor /director, Hypocrites

[Ulysses G.]

All talking about President Obama. What did Romney do as Governor of Mass and at Bain?

As governor, Romney presided over a series of spending cuts and increases in fees that eliminated an up to $1.5 billion deficit.The state unemployment rate was at 5.6 percent when Romney took office in January 2003.and ended at 4.6 percent for January 2007 during Romney's last month in office.

Bain capital was highly profitable and one of the largest such firms in the nation. He was a successful Govenor and a very successful businessman and has given millions to charity. He has plenty to brag about, but that is not his style.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Ulysses G.

[Pinot]

American politics have a meaness to them, now. The fanatical right wing Republicans party is by far the worst. They have a news cable channel with the mission of tearing down the US President. The Republican platform is "Let Us Do What We Did Before!" The party of coorporate international business. It's the rich man's party. I have mine, f u.

Clint was a respected actor/director. He's a Republican. They threw him out there, because who else do they have? Put a fork in the former Carmel, California mayor, Clint Eastwood. This Republican convention has been a train wreck.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Pinot

[bigbamboo]

When Clint first appeared as the Man With No Name he asked that most of his dialogue be cut. If only he'd done the same last night.

It was a shame to see one of the truly great movie icons like this.

[KKvampire]

All talking about President Obama. What did Romney do as Governor of Mass and at Bain?

As governor, Romney presided over a series of spending cuts and increases in fees that eliminated an up to $1.5 billion deficit.The state unemployment rate was at 5.6 percent when Romney took office in January 2003.and ended at 4.6 percent for January 2007 during Romney's last month in office.

Bain capital was highly profitable and one of the largest such firms in the nation. He was a successful Govenor and a very successful businessman and has given millions to charity. He has plenty to brag about, but that is not his style.

You keep trying dont you with the image you want to portray of Romney. He introduced a state health insurance scheme witch was partly used in Affordable care act, But he condemns that now, And of course Bain outsources more Jobs from the USA by the week. And of course it was "government" that helped Romney when times were tough Hypocrite!!.Back to the drawing board , You failed this one General G.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/30/mitt-romney-bain-bailout_n_1843601.html

Edited August 31, 2012 by KKvampire

[Ulysses G.]

You keep trying dont you with the image you want to portray of Romney. He introduced a state health insurance scheme witch was partly used in Affordable care act, But he condemns that now,

Incorrect once again. He says he is proud of his plan in Massachusetts. He did not have to raise taxes or take money out of Medicare to fund it. He condemns Obamacare which does both.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Ulysses G.

[mania]

I am not much for politics but did read this one as I saw Clint Eastwoods name &

was curious. I also watched the video.

Personally I did not think it was bad.

More like a slight roast where they use to make fun a bit of someone.

What he said towards the end seemed very valid.

The part along the lines of, No matter what your party remember all politicians are our employees.

If they are not doing the job they have to go.

That made a lot of sense & it seems too many cling to a party even when they know in their heart

their party is not doing a proper job. I think it is an important point especially now given the state

of not only the USA but the world.

Finally I would add that it seems to me he was speaking openly & while he is 82

& had moments of lapse in his speech or train of thought but he is 82 & said what he thought.

He did not seem to have a teleprompter with a canned speech written by someone else to read. I appreciate that more

than a speaker who darts from teleprompter to teleprompter looking for the next line.

They never come off as genuine or heart felt.

Edited August 31, 2012 by mania

[Jingthing]

I love the Obama campaign response:

The Obama campaign’s response also deserves to be quoted. “Referring all questions on this to Salvador Dalí,” campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt e-mailed to reporters

http://www.washingto...-was-the-policy

[attento]

Anyway, getting back to the story . . . . this is Politics guys ! Dont' expect an intellectual confrontation.

All about show business and PR. This is about Razzamatazz. The conjuror's smoke and mirrors.

For us cynics, this is time for a laugh at the Politician's expense !

Relax, Sit back and enjoy the Show.

Whoever is the next incumbent of the White House, there wont be much change of overall policy.

. . . .

But, please dont laugh at dear Mr Clinton Eastwood.