Does Internet Tv Take Up A Lot Of Bandwidth

[nattydread]

i live in a serviced apartments and the manager is trying to save cash by dumping the True tv package he has because he says it costs too much as he has to pay per room for it,the place has about 80 rooms...

he now is using just cable tv which has basic thai channels, a japanese,korean,french and german channel and farang news channels plus has 3 internet tv boxes and tunes each one into a pay channel and pipes them to every room ( about 500 baht a month per box he says)..he then keeps changing them from AXN to discovery to nat geo or sport....they are not that good and 50% of the time the screen goes blank and the rest of the time the pic is grainy or unstable.

I have noticed that the wifi internet in the hotel has gone down hill with pages slow and some sites not loading...on questioning him about it and suggesting that his 3 internet tv boxes may be sapping the bandwidth slowing down the hotel internet he denys that there is a problem

can anyone give me any advice?

[lopburi3]

Move?

From title it seems you believe they are using internet TV? There are independent cable systems that most Thai use for cheaper cable access and suspect that is likely what is being used - nothing to do with internet as those stations listed are normal on such systems.

[Pib]

As lopburi3 said there are independent Thai cable operators which offer basic Thai channels and some farang type channels. A couple of my in-laws in Bangkok is on such a cable systems and it costs them around B250/month...OK programming for a Thai since it provides all the basic/popular Thai channels....but probably lacking for a farang looking for more English language programming.

Streaming video/internet TV does require significant bandwidth...probably 1-2Mb per channel and it has to be good/smooth flowing bandwidth to prevent pausing and other picture problems. Even a high speed internet connection, say 100Mb, could suck for streaming video if it's not a smooth flowing bandwidth. If you search on ThaiVisa there is no shortage of posts complaining about how hard it is to get smooth streaming video/TV internet for many farangs staying in Thailand because it tough to get good/high speed internet in many Thailand locations...even in Bangkok and other large cities.

I expect your landlord is just minimizing his telecommunications/cable TV costs by switching cable providers and maybe not having enough bandwidth to adequately serve all the apartments.

[kiwiinasia]

Look at this.. Here!

[linuxuser010101]

My guess would be people downloading torrents which can be blocked by the owner in the router set up menu. I doubt anyone is actually trying to stream TV because if they were you would have periods where you would actually have good internet when they were not using it where as downloading torrents is something you can do 24 hours a day and it will suck all the bandwidth available.

[Chicog]

I wonder if he's bright enough to have changed the router's default password?

[linuxuser010101]

I wonder if he's bright enough to have changed the router's default password?

LMAO, yeah, you have a valid point there I suppose there are a lot of people out there that wouldn't know how to do it or even think about doing it. So, chances are the user name is admin and password is admin. Now all you need is the IP address.

[Chicog]

I wonder if he's bright enough to have changed the router's default password?

LMAO, yeah, you have a valid point there I suppose there are a lot of people out there that wouldn't know how to do it or even think about doing it. So, chances are the user name is admin and password is admin. Now all you need is the IP address.

Which is normally your gateway.

Get into the QOS, give yourself 90% of the bandwidth and Hey Presto!

[nattydread]

I wonder if he's bright enough to have changed the router's default password?

LMAO, yeah, you have a valid point there I suppose there are a lot of people out there that wouldn't know how to do it or even think about doing it. So, chances are the user name is admin and password is admin. Now all you need is the IP address.

Which is normally your gateway.

Get into the QOS, give yourself 90% of the bandwidth and Hey Presto!

found the IP address and yes the router user name and password are admin LOL

so being on WiFI is there any way i can make my internet connection faster?

[Chicog]

Have a look and see what sort of traffic it's using. You might be able to get an idea of the total bandwidth and which IP is sucking it all up if any.

[nattydread]

Have a look and see what sort of traffic it's using. You might be able to get an idea of the total bandwidth and which IP is sucking it all up if any.

havent a clue where to look for that info.........the router is made by Billion and menu includes

Quick Start

Interface Setup

Advanced Setup

Access Management

Maintenance

Status

Downstream Upstream

SNR Margin : 20.5 9.1 db

Line Attenuation : 8.9 4.2 db

Data Rate : 9415 1004 kbps

using speedtest in my room i only get around 1Mb

heres the system log

1/21/2000 0:36:23> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:34:52> Exception occured, EPC=800a569c ,RA 0

1/21/2000 16:34:53> MPOA Link Down

1/21/2000 16:34:53> LAN promiscuous mode <1>

1/21/2000 16:34:53> Last errorlog repeat 1 Times

1/21/2000 16:34:53> SNMP TRAP 1: warm start

1/21/2000 16:34:53> main: init completed

1/21/2000 16:34:53> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:34:54> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:34:54> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:34:54> Last errorlog repeat 2 Times

1/21/2000 16:34:54> adjtime task pause 1 day

1/21/2000 16:34:54> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:35:20> Last errorlog repeat 265 Times

1/21/2000 16:35:20> MPOA Link Up

1/21/2000 16:35:20> netMakeChannDial: err=-3000 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:35:21> Last errorlog repeat 2 Times

1/21/2000 16:35:21> ppp_ready: ch:8049fbf0, iface:803ed020

1/21/2000 16:35:21> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:35:21> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:35:21> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:52:11> Exception occured, EPC=800a569c ,RA 80031e84

1/21/2000 16:52:12> MPOA Link Down

1/21/2000 16:52:12> LAN promiscuous mode <1>

1/21/2000 16:52:12> Last errorlog repeat 1 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:12> SNMP TRAP 1: warm start

1/21/2000 16:52:12> main: init completed

1/21/2000 16:52:12> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:13> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:52:13> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:13> Last errorlog repeat 2 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:13> adjtime task pause 1 day

1/21/2000 16:52:13> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:39> Last errorlog repeat 249 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:39> netMakeChannDial: err=-3000 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:39> Last errorlog repeat 1 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:39> MPOA Link Up

1/21/2000 16:52:39> netMakeChannDial: err=-3000 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:42> Last errorlog repeat 15 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:42> ppp_ready: ch:8049fbf0, iface:803ed020

1/21/2000 16:52:42> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:52:42> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:52:42> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:54:13> SNMP TRAP 2: link down

1/21/2000 16:54:13> MPOA Link Down

1/21/2000 16:54:13> mpoaChannDown: ch<0> null iface

1/21/2000 16:54:13> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:54:42> Last errorlog repeat 187 Times

1/21/2000 16:54:42> MPOA Link Up

1/21/2000 16:54:43> ppp_ready: ch:8049fbf0, iface:803ed020

1/21/2000 16:54:43> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:54:44> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:54:44> Accept() fail

[Chicog]

What are the options under "status"?

[David Barker]

seems like the teckie guys have the answers but our iptv box works ok on 1mb says you need 2 but does not seem to be a problem

[Notstupid30]

I'm getting what I pay for via 3BB 5M / 1M Primer Line what surprising really also just downloading some stuff as we speak ..

[nattydread]

What are the options under "status"?

Device Info System Log Statistics

Transmit Statistics Receive Statistics

Transmit Frames 21219447 Receive Frames 16089698

Transmit Multicast Frames 5498 Receive Multicast Frames 27791

Transmit total Bytes 1558904913 Receive total Bytes -1479044673

Transmit Collision 0 Receive CRC Errors 0

Transmit Error Frames 0 Receive Under-size Frames 0

/21/2000 16:34:54> Last errorlog repeat 2 Times

1/21/2000 16:34:54> adjtime task pause 1 day

1/21/2000 16:34:54> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:35:20> Last errorlog repeat 265 Times

1/21/2000 16:35:20> MPOA Link Up

1/21/2000 16:35:20> netMakeChannDial: err=-3000 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:35:21> Last errorlog repeat 2 Times

1/21/2000 16:35:21> ppp_ready: ch:8049fbf0, iface:803ed020

1/21/2000 16:35:21> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:35:21> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:35:21> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:52:11> Exception occured, EPC=800a569c ,RA 80031e84

1/21/2000 16:52:12> MPOA Link Down

1/21/2000 16:52:12> LAN promiscuous mode <1>

1/21/2000 16:52:12> Last errorlog repeat 1 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:12> SNMP TRAP 1: warm start

1/21/2000 16:52:12> main: init completed

1/21/2000 16:52:12> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:13> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:52:13> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:13> Last errorlog repeat 2 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:13> adjtime task pause 1 day

1/21/2000 16:52:13> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:39> Last errorlog repeat 249 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:39> netMakeChannDial: err=-3000 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:39> Last errorlog repeat 1 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:39> MPOA Link Up

1/21/2000 16:52:39> netMakeChannDial: err=-3000 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:52:42> Last errorlog repeat 15 Times

1/21/2000 16:52:42> ppp_ready: ch:8049fbf0, iface:803ed020

1/21/2000 16:52:42> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:52:42> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:52:42> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:54:13> SNMP TRAP 2: link down

1/21/2000 16:54:13> MPOA Link Down

1/21/2000 16:54:13> mpoaChannDown: ch<0> null iface

1/21/2000 16:54:13> netMakeChannDial: err=-3001 rn_p=80458988

1/21/2000 16:54:42> Last errorlog repeat 187 Times

1/21/2000 16:54:42> MPOA Link Up

1/21/2000 16:54:43> ppp_ready: ch:8049fbf0, iface:803ed020

1/21/2000 16:54:43> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/21/2000 16:54:44> Accept() fail

1/21/2000 16:54:44> Accept() fail

1/22/2000 16:52:13> adjtime task pause 1 day

1/22/2000 16:58:20> SNMP TRAP 2: link down

1/22/2000 16:58:21> ppp_ready: ch:8049fbf0, iface:803ed020

1/22/2000 16:58:21> SNMP TRAP 3: link up

1/22/2000 16:58:21> Accept() fail

1/22/2000 16:58:21> Accept() fail

Device Information

Firmware Version : 2.10.5.0(UE0.C2C)3.6.0.0

MAC Address : ********************

LAN

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IP Address : *******************

Subnet Mask : ***************

DHCP Server : Enabled

WAN

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Virtual Circuit : PVC0PVC1PVC2PVC3PVC4PVC5PVC6PVC7

Status : Connected

Connection Type : PPPoE

IP Address : ****************

Subnet Mask : **************

Default Gateway : ************

DNS Server : ****************

NAT : Enabled

PPP connection time : 0:08:35:28

ADSL

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ADSL Firmware Version : FwVer:3.6.0.0_A_TC3085 HwVer:T14.F7_3.0

Line State : Showtime

Modulation : ADSL2 PLUS

Annex Mode : ANNEX_A

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Downstream Upstream

SNR Margin : 19.4 9.8 db

Line Attenuation : 8.9 4.2 db

Data Rate : 9415 1004 kbps

[Chicog]

Doesn't say much. I'm not familiar with the router, so I'm guessing "Advanced Setup" probably has settings for the local WLAN, so you can see who's connected, etc.

I wouldn't bugger about with it if you don't know what you are doing....

[Sayonarax]

Err, stop messing with mans Wi-Fi unless you want to CCD knocking on ya door.

[nattydread]

Err, stop messing with mans Wi-Fi unless you want to CCD knocking on ya door.

I would nt dream of messing with it but maybe someone can tell me

Downstream Upstream

SNR Margin : 19.4 9.8 db

Line Attenuation : 8.9 4.2 db

Data Rate : 9415 1004 kbps

does the above mean the router is getting 9.415MB of download speed and 1.004 MB of upload?

my speedtest result is 1.0MB download as are 2 other people in the building with some websites not dowloading properly