Chiang Mai Governor who vowed to crack down on red-shirt protesters sidelined

The Cabinet Tuesday transferred Chiang Mai Governor M.L. Panadda Dissakul to an inactive position of deputy permanent secretary.

When Panadda was appointed the Chiang Mai governor by the Democrat government, he announced that he would not tolerate illegal or violent activities of the red-shirt protesters.

In June 2011, Pheu Thai member Chalerm Yoobamrung said Pannadda would definitely face the axe if the Pheu Thai won an election and became a coalition leader.

-- The Nation 2012-09-04

RESHUFFLE

Pol Gen Pongsathat to ONCB, Chiang Mai Governor moved to inactive post

The Nation

ML Panadda

BANGKOK: -- The Cabinet on Tuesday approved the Justice Ministry's proposal for the deputy police chief to become the new secretary general of the Office of Narcotics Control Board.

Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said Pol Gen Pongsathat Pongcharoen will be the new chief of the ONCB while Pol Lt Col Dussadee Arayavudh, secretary general of Office of Public Sector Anti-Corruption Commission (PACC) was named the new deputy permanent secretary of the Justice Ministry.

Asked who would replace Dussadee at the PACC, Chalerm said Justice Minister Pol Gen Pracha Promnok was still considering it.

The Cabinet also promoted Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Director-General Wibul Sanguanpong to permanent secretary of the Interior Ministry.

The Cabinet approved Wibul's promotion and the reshuffle of other senior Interior Ministry officials, as proposed by Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit.

As part of the annual reshuffle, Chiang Mai Governor ML Panadda Dissakul was transferred to the inactive position of deputy permanent secretary. When he was appointed the Chiang Mai governor by the Democrat government, Panadda announced that he would not tolerate illegal or violent activities of the red-shirt protesters.

In June 2011, Pheu Thai member Chalerm Yoobamrung said Pannadda would definitely face the axe if the Pheu Thai won an election and became a coalition leader.

-- The Nation 2012-09-04

As I said before. Never mind the rule of law. With the red thugs mob it is our way or no way. Red democracy.

Indeed, this ex-governor took too much a risk for Thaïland !

Confronted to a violent and/or illegal activity, the governor should look first who is responsible for this and let the "authorized people/groups" be violent/illegal ...

Violence and/or illegality are permitted for certain peoples/groups, and non-violent/legal activities of others are NOT !

Is it a dictatorship or not, after all ?

As part of the annual reshuffle, Chiang Mai Governor ML Panadda Dissakul was transferred to the inactive position of deputy permanent secretary. When he was appointed the Chiang Mai governor by the Democrat government, Panadda announced that he would not tolerate illegal or violent activities of the red-shirt protesters.

Who was and what happened to the person which was succeeded by ML Panadda ?

As part of the annual reshuffle, Chiang Mai Governor ML Panadda Dissakul was transferred to the inactive position of deputy permanent secretary. When he was appointed the Chiang Mai governor by the Democrat government, Panadda announced that he would not tolerate illegal or violent activities of the red-shirt protesters.

Who was and what happened to the person which was succeeded by ML Panadda ?

My guess is it is another red shirt Thaksin/Chalerm boot licker and there are probably a few ocean containers of ear medicine involved in the appointment. Maybe even a new Bentley from the man in Dubai who is through with Thai politics seeing that Charlem is stuffing the pot so to speak with only Thaksin cronies..

As part of the annual reshuffle, Chiang Mai Governor ML Panadda Dissakul was transferred to the inactive position of deputy permanent secretary. When he was appointed the Chiang Mai governor by the Democrat government, Panadda announced that he would not tolerate illegal or violent activities of the red-shirt protesters.

Who was and what happened to the person which was succeeded by ML Panadda ?

My guess is it is another red shirt Thaksin/Chalerm boot licker and there are probably a few ocean containers of ear medicine involved in the appointment. Maybe even a new Bentley from the man in Dubai who is through with Thai politics seeing that Charlem is stuffing the pot so to speak with only Thaksin cronies..

To be sure, I mean the person BEFORE ML Panadda

Indeed, this ex-governor took too much a risk for Thaïland !

Confronted to a violent and/or illegal activity, the governor should look first who is responsible for this and let the "authorized people/groups" be violent/illegal ...

Violence and/or illegality are permitted for certain peoples/groups, and non-violent/legal activities of others are NOT !

Is it a dictatorship or not, after all ?

He was more of a risk to tourists actually:

http://www.travelwireasia.com/2011/03/what-killed-seven-people-in-chiang-mai-thailand/

As part of the annual reshuffle, Chiang Mai Governor ML Panadda Dissakul was transferred to the inactive position of deputy permanent secretary. When he was appointed the Chiang Mai governor by the Democrat government, Panadda announced that he would not tolerate illegal or violent activities of the red-shirt protesters.

Who was and what happened to the person which was succeeded by ML Panadda ?

My guess is it is another red shirt Thaksin/Chalerm boot licker and there are probably a few ocean containers of ear medicine involved in the appointment. Maybe even a new Bentley from the man in Dubai who is through with Thai politics seeing that Charlem is stuffing the pot so to speak with only Thaksin cronies..

To be sure, I mean the person BEFORE ML Panadda

My apologies. Read your post to fast.

Indeed, this ex-governor took too much a risk for Thaïland !

Confronted to a violent and/or illegal activity, the governor should look first who is responsible for this and let the "authorized people/groups" be violent/illegal ...

Violence and/or illegality are permitted for certain peoples/groups, and non-violent/legal activities of others are NOT !

Is it a dictatorship or not, after all ?

He was more of a risk to tourists actually:

http://www.travelwir...g-mai-thailand/

I feel confident this had nothing to do with his move to inactive post.

RESHUFFLE

Pol Gen Pongsathat to ONCB, Chiang Mai Governor moved to inactive post

The Nation

ML Panadda

BANGKOK: -- The Cabinet on Tuesday approved the Justice Ministry's proposal for the deputy police chief to become the new secretary general of the Office of Narcotics Control Board.

Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said Pol Gen Pongsathat Pongcharoen will be the new chief of the ONCB while Pol Lt Col Dussadee Arayavudh, secretary general of Office of Public Sector Anti-Corruption Commission (PACC) was named the new deputy permanent secretary of the Justice Ministry.

Asked who would replace Dussadee at the PACC, Chalerm said Justice Minister Pol Gen Pracha Promnok was still considering it.

The Cabinet also promoted Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Director-General Wibul Sanguanpong to permanent secretary of the Interior Ministry.

The Cabinet approved Wibul's promotion and the reshuffle of other senior Interior Ministry officials, as proposed by Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit.

As part of the annual reshuffle, Chiang Mai Governor ML Panadda Dissakul was transferred to the inactive position of deputy permanent secretary. When he was appointed the Chiang Mai governor by the Democrat government, Panadda announced that he would not tolerate illegal or violent activities of the red-shirt protesters.

In June 2011, Pheu Thai member Chalerm Yoobamrung said Pannadda would definitely face the axe if the Pheu Thai won an election and became a coalition leader.

-- The Nation 2012-09-04

So what Chalerm is saying is that no matter how popular or good at his job the governor might be he would be replaced for political reasons by PT.

Politicians before people. Plus ca change.

They mean Broadsided...but I guess Sidelined is a nicer word

This red shirt thing is typical The Nation spin.

They could also have stated that he was among the longest serving governnors in the country (see Wikipedia); a change was simply due. Also because he governed very different from his own claims of being only a facilitator, he instead took it upon himself to orgestrate crackdowns for example on nightlife of any kind.

Good riddance. And don't buy the spin.

This red shirt thing is typical The Nation spin.

They could also have stated that he was among the longest serving governnors in the country (see Wikipedia); a change was simply due. Also because he governed very different from his own claims of being only a facilitator, he instead took it upon himself to orgestrate crackdowns for example on nightlife of any kind.

Good riddance. And don't buy the spin.

'amongst the longest serving' must be taken with a grain of salt and some ear medicine, I think.

In the list of governors on wiki ML Panadda is listed as 'since Oct. 2010', still lots of others from 2009, one 2008 PhangNga and one 2006 SuphanBuri.

http://en.wikipedia....iland#Governors

Never seen such a circus. And these buffoons are running a country?

His removal from Chiang Mai was long overdue. Maybe the town will be a little more enjoyable for both the locals and expats from now on.

As for the usual whining Dem losers, well, chums, the position of Governor of Chiang Mai is a political appointment, and, just as the Dems appointed Panadda (a vocal anti-Red), so PTP have appointed someone more to their taste. If the Dems want to be in a position to appoint Governors, maybe they should try to win a general election sometime, something they haven't done for 20 odd years!

This red shirt thing is typical The Nation spin.

They could also have stated that he was among the longest serving governnors in the country (see Wikipedia); a change was simply due. Also because he governed very different from his own claims of being only a facilitator, he instead took it upon himself to orgestrate crackdowns for example on nightlife of any kind.

Good riddance. And don't buy the spin.

Less than 2 years is "one of the longest serving governors" ? Really?

Chiang Mai is devoid of nightlife of any kind? Perhaps after 2 am, when the law says close.

And PPD insists he is a danger to tourists.

I know Chalerm isn't one for keeping promises, but when it comes to a bit of political shafting, I'll take it he kept his word

His removal from Chiang Mai was long overdue. Maybe the town will be a little more enjoyable for both the locals and expats from now on.

As for the usual whining Dem losers, well, chums, the position of Governor of Chiang Mai is a political appointment, and, just as the Dems appointed Panadda (a vocal anti-Red), so PTP have appointed someone more to their taste. If the Dems want to be in a position to appoint Governors, maybe they should try to win a general election sometime, something they haven't done for 20 odd years!

Could you please expand on"Maybe the town will be a little more enjoyable for both the locals and expats from now on." ?

I have the funny feeling that you are referring to allowing "selected" night venues to operate past the legally mandated 2am closing.

Never seen such a circus. And these buffoons are running a country?

Yes,sadly they do and only God knows for how long.

This red shirt thing is typical The Nation spin.

They could also have stated that he was among the longest serving governnors in the country (see Wikipedia); a change was simply due. Also because he governed very different from his own claims of being only a facilitator, he instead took it upon himself to orgestrate crackdowns for example on nightlife of any kind.

Good riddance. And don't buy the spin.

+1

I have the funny feeling that you are referring to allowing "selected" night venues to operate past the legally mandated 2am closing.

Chiang Mai went from flexible 2am closing to hard-fast 12am closing about 2 years ago.

Yes of course this Governor was moved, as per Taksin's usual demographic spite, but the bigger issue is Pol Col Dusadee Arayawuthi being hastily removed from his post as a too efficient graft buster. And yes, there are some and deserve the support the Other Paper is giving him.

So after all the fun with 'taking care of the hospitality industry in the region' and the politisized other remarks, is there no one who can tell me who was governor BEFORE ML Panadda, how/why that person was replaced and what happened with him or her?

Come on guys (and girls), help me please

Never seen such a circus. And these buffoons are running a country?

Yes,sadly they do and only God knows for how long.

At least a few years after they win the next election...................( and very probably the one after that. )

"Don't worry, be happy..."

I have the funny feeling that you are referring to allowing "selected" night venues to operate past the legally mandated 2am closing.

Chiang Mai went from flexible 2am closing to hard-fast 12am closing about 2 years ago.

This is *HIGHLY* inaccurate. The only places that were being shut down, were the small group of bars on Loi Kroh Rd. Most everything else is staying open later than that, including a hand full of bars on Loi Kroh. Even the mid-night closing time is no longer a "hard-fast" rule on Loi Kroh anymore. The powers that be have informed some of the bars they just have to turn the music down/ off at midnight but not close.

All the bars in the Reggae area (with the occasional exception of Zoe in Yellow Bar), Warm-up, Monkey Club, Riverside, Goodview, Fabrique, etc, etc, were never under some hard-fast 12am closing time rule.

-Mestizo

K. Panada was quite popular in Chiang Mai and his love of the city persuaded the Red rulers to come to an accommodation with him. I don't know if he is now being sidelined but he is being moved simply because his 2 year term has come to an end. Unfortunately for the likes of me, his 'vision' for Chiang Mai involved it being a centre for meditation and a trekking capital. Allowing visitors to enjoy a convivial pint in a pub didnt figure highly on his priority list.

I don't know about other peoples countries but which ever government Australia has in power appoints all the old political hacks, party faithful and ex-pollies to all the lucrative posts like UN, Ambassadorships, Heads of various government bodies etc etc. It is their retirement extra bonus.

From what I read here it seems Australia and Thailand are the only two countries that reward their mates. Every other county purely appoints by meritocracy eh?

K. Panada was quite popular in Chiang Mai and his love of the city persuaded the Red rulers to come to an accommodation with him. I don't know if he is now being sidelined but he is being moved simply because his 2 year term has come to an end. Unfortunately for the likes of me, his 'vision' for Chiang Mai involved it being a centre for meditation and a trekking capital. Allowing visitors to enjoy a convivial pint in a pub didnt figure highly on his priority list.

The "2 year term has come to an end" really makes me wonder about the remark of another member saying he was one of the longest serving AND the long list of governors from 2009.

Shouldn't moving a governor way past his term be more of a priority? Did term lengths change?

I have the funny feeling that you are referring to allowing "selected" night venues to operate past the legally mandated 2am closing.

Chiang Mai went from flexible 2am closing to hard-fast 12am closing about 2 years ago.

This is *HIGHLY* inaccurate. The only places that were being shut down, were the small group of bars on Loi Kroh Rd. Most everything else is staying open later than that, including a hand full of bars on Loi Kroh. Even the mid-night closing time is no longer a "hard-fast" rule on Loi Kroh anymore. The powers that be have informed some of the bars they just have to turn the music down/ off at midnight but not close.

All the bars in the Reggae area (with the occasional exception of Zoe in Yellow Bar), Warm-up, Monkey Club, Riverside, Goodview, Fabrique, etc, etc, were never under some hard-fast 12am closing time rule.

-Mestizo

now 12am is a little more flexible, 2 years ago the 12am was very hard-fast... even spicy had to close early some nights.

it seems we remember things a little differently.

now 12am is a little more flexible, 2 years ago the 12am was very hard-fast... even spicy had to close early some nights.

it seems we remember things a little differently.

"some nights" = very hard-fast rule?

Yes, I remember things very differently. Other than during brief curfew period, I don't remember Warm-Up, Monkey Club, Riverside, etc ever shutting down at 12am. Can you please remind me when that was exactly?

-Mestizo