loserlazer Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) The tires will be donlop sportmax d222. Do they produce them in Thailand:? I cannot post pics now somehow. Hope to see these bikes made in Thailand:( Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited November 13, 2012 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 dash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Is that a 9000rpm redline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Yeah a poor 9000 rpm redline unfortunately. About to post it. Still better than 6000 of nc700 but a good short of kaws 650f n. Means more low and mid grunt though! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited November 13, 2012 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Yeah can post pic now. Guys on the tire; is it written 'made in japan' or am i too paranoid and making it up? They might be making them in japan man??? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 When peas in the uk 7 years ago people were buying 600 cc bikes hornets,bandits ,gsxr and just buying the restricting kit for them so once they had done their time remove the kit and you have a full power bike believe a hornet is around 90 bhp this is what people seem to want in the real world not a 47 bhp machine that you would probably want to change within a year. Don't forget country's with tiered licesense laws are getting a 47 bhp version and if that's at the crank with the weight of this bike it's not that great or tempting for buyers that have a huge selection to choose from. Still as I say good for Thailand. According to Honda the tuned for torque 47bhp NC700X is faster to 75mph than the CB600F Hornet and gets nearly twice the mileage on a gallon of fuel. Of course it doesn't have the top end of the Hornet but Honda research shows that most riders spend their time below 70mph. Experienced riders in the UK are showing a lot of interest in Honda's new concept of economical, torquey bikes. I find that hard to believe and is more likely marketing bullshit the hornet engine Is a slightly detuned cbr 600rr engine 0- 60 mph in 4 seconds or less and revs up to 12-14000rpm I'd have to call BS on that as well. No way a heavy bike like the NC700x with 47ish HP beats a Hornet with nearly double the HP and less weight from 0-75. Not the stupidest thing that The Telegraph has ever come up with though... not by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Is that a 9000rpm redline? Looks like it. But never mind, I'm pretty sure it's got a fuel gauge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 ^ and a clock. Perhaps it can be set to 'stopwatch' to see how long it takes a N250 to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) Yeah can post pic now. Guys on the tire; is it written 'made in japan' or am i too paranoid and making it up? They might be making them in japan man??? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Don't worry they do import some parts for the bike my crf wheels have made in japan stamped on . These bikes are set for America release in April 2013 and it has been mentioned they hit Thailand January 2013 that all sounds about right to me for the timescale and was the same with the crf being released in Thailand 4 months before the us Market. Edited November 14, 2012 by taninthai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The new Honda 500cc motorcycles are very likely not made in Thailand, and even if they were manufactured in Thailand they would probably cost more than a Kawasaki 650cc. Why is that? The Thailand government has no TAX or BOI benefits for manufacturers who produce a motorcycle with an engine bigger than 250cc and smaller than 500cc. The new Honda 500 line-up is officially 471cc so they don't have any Thai government/BOI benefits, nothing special. The second reason is that Honda has not the space to produce 3 global motorcycle models in Thailand, they just have no free production lines. Also investing in Thailand for the production of the CB500F, CB500X, and CBR500R in Thailand would be an investment difficult to earn back, 2013 is almost upon us and from 1 January 2013 the import duty from Japan will just be 22%, producing the motorcycle in Thailand without the Thai government benefits (BOI) it would cost more to produce them in Thailand.... So it's very likely that Honda will use the Japan-Thailand Economic Partnership Agreement to import the motorcycles into Thailand (if they decide to sell them in Thailand). Why would they cost more? There is no import duty correct? Just because you don't have space doesn't mean you cant get more. I am sure space is a lot cheaper here then Japan. What does the 22% tax have to do with it? I would assume honda is not making them here only for thailand correct? It would cost more in Thailand to produce? I doubt it. The benefits cheaper labor, cheaper taxes, cheaper shipping to SEA, cheaper infrastructure, cheaper utilities, cheaper permits and less regulation. Lets not also forget know currency has appreciated like the Jap yen. Lets revisit this post soon and see. I hope you are incorrect only for the Thailand bikers benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 CBR 500 race bike!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cm das Posted November 14, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2012 The new Honda 500cc motorcycles are very likely not made in Thailand, and even if they were manufactured in Thailand they would probably cost more than a Kawasaki 650cc. Why is that? The Thailand government has no TAX or BOI benefits for manufacturers who produce a motorcycle with an engine bigger than 250cc and smaller than 500cc. The new Honda 500 line-up is officially 471cc so they don't have any Thai government/BOI benefits, nothing special. The second reason is that Honda has not the space to produce 3 global motorcycle models in Thailand, they just have no free production lines. Also investing in Thailand for the production of the CB500F, CB500X, and CBR500R in Thailand would be an investment difficult to earn back, 2013 is almost upon us and from 1 January 2013 the import duty from Japan will just be 22%, producing the motorcycle in Thailand without the Thai government benefits (BOI) it would cost more to produce them in Thailand.... So it's very likely that Honda will use the Japan-Thailand Economic Partnership Agreement to import the motorcycles into Thailand (if they decide to sell them in Thailand). Rest easy guys. Yesterday's print edition of The Nation has a picture of the opening ceremony for Thai Honda's new factory at Lad Krabang. In front of all the VIPs in the shot was a shiny new cbr500 & the sign behind them read "cbr500 production line" or something like that. But the really big news was... I got something valuable from reading The Nation! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The new Honda 500cc motorcycles are very likely not made in Thailand, and even if they were manufactured in Thailand they would probably cost more than a Kawasaki 650cc. Why is that? The Thailand government has no TAX or BOI benefits for manufacturers who produce a motorcycle with an engine bigger than 250cc and smaller than 500cc. The new Honda 500 line-up is officially 471cc so they don't have any Thai government/BOI benefits, nothing special. The second reason is that Honda has not the space to produce 3 global motorcycle models in Thailand, they just have no free production lines. Also investing in Thailand for the production of the CB500F, CB500X, and CBR500R in Thailand would be an investment difficult to earn back, 2013 is almost upon us and from 1 January 2013 the import duty from Japan will just be 22%, producing the motorcycle in Thailand without the Thai government benefits (BOI) it would cost more to produce them in Thailand.... So it's very likely that Honda will use the Japan-Thailand Economic Partnership Agreement to import the motorcycles into Thailand (if they decide to sell them in Thailand). Rest easy guys. Yesterday's print edition of The Nation has a picture of the opening ceremony for Thai Honda's new factory at Lad Krabang. In front of all the VIPs in the shot was a shiny new cbr500 & the sign behind them read "cbr500 production line" or something like that. But the really big news was... I got something valuable from reading The Nation! Nice to see RichardBKK correct again.......... NOT sent from my Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Lol. He really is unbelieveable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 For those that want to view a video of the bike rather than read uninformed comment on the performance of an unreviewed bike, all three can be seen together on the road on Honda`s YouTube channel. All the variants - not bad looking bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'm happy to say that I was wrong, Honda has confirmed that they will also produce the new 500cc models in Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Yes Richard they confirmed this over 6 months ago please try and keep up.....,,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowflake Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I confiscated the nation now, just to check if the claim to picture was correct... Not in the auto section, but page two, short story about auto investment and VIP'S with speeches...important item, the picture is true, so once again, Honda is building the bikes here ( which makes me believe that they will sell them here also) My old student now working for said company claimed it would be under 200000, I asked yesterday since he contacted me on Facebook regarding my private post about losing money when selling the er6f... He did not know the final price, but it will be cheaper than the kawasaki... Not going to be unhappy then... (He also said that I might be to big for them and he suggested that I should buy the ducati, or z1000.. Good boy, no need to kiss ar.....e anymore, you are working now, no points) Happy times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED21 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 This bike should be a minimum of 50,000 cheaper then the kawi 650. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 This bike should be a minimum of 50,000 cheaper then the kawi 650. And going on the US prices it will be sent from my Q6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Familyonthemove Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 This bike should be a minimum of 50,000 cheaper then the kawi 650. And going on the US prices it will be sent from my Q6 It needs to be. Will have less power. CB500 X could be a great bike for Thailand and for long distance adventure touring, but footpegs look too high and no centre stand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'm happy to say that I was wrong, Honda has confirmed that they will also produce the new 500cc models in Thailand First time, I am really pleased that you are wrong Richard. no need for apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Forgiving the chopstick forks and stretched elastic band swingarm, I was quite tempted by the CBR500R until the 9000rpm redline info. Where's peak HP gonna be, 6000rpm? Talk about a sheep in wolf's clothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) Forgiving the chopstick forks and stretched elastic band swingarm, I was quite tempted by the CBR500R until the 9000rpm redline info.Where's peak HP gonna be, 6000rpm? Talk about a sheep in wolf's clothing. I think around 8000 rpm. but what to do. Yeah man low rpm but more torque then. Yeah sheep in wolf's clothing but i ll go for it anyway. There is no other reasonable option for me in Thailand. And what bike else for that price and looks? Dont tell me kawa. I ll buy it and do my waiting with it for kawa z800:D Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited November 14, 2012 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 2:34 does he say 'uncomfortable'?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) Forgiving the chopstick forks and stretched elastic band swingarm, I was quite tempted by the CBR500R until the 9000rpm redline info. Where's peak HP gonna be, 6000rpm? Talk about a sheep in wolf's clothing. Hell for Leather claims 46,9 HP and 30 ft-lb of torque. HP=(torque * RPM)/5252. At the listed torque, than anything peak HP-wise lower than 8200 simply can't be. (46,9*5252)/8000 = 30,8 ft-lb (7800 RPM = 31,6) ...so either HFL is wrong or there is a fairly narrow powerband. Personally i think the torque is a misquote. Edited November 14, 2012 by dave_boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'm happy to say that I was wrong, Honda has confirmed that they will also produce the new 500cc models in Thailand It was obvious for anyone following this rumor, really. I've heard that from Thai friends, from farang friends, on facebook, on this forum... That said - kudos for the apology! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Red one looks fantastic, isnt it? Every time i look at it, it grows more on me man:) Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Honda World Superbike rider, Jonathan Rea, was on hand for Honda on Monday 12 November to help welcome the brand new CBR500R to the iconic CBR family. The launch took place at Le Pelota in Milan ahead of the annual EICMA extravaganza of two-wheeled loveliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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