SumetCycle Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 They should be able to do one for around 10k. When you get yours, we'll all have to go for a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowflake Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 AchyBang... The slap really shook me up and brought senses back into my brain... The thought behind the Versys and CBX would be to get those as a second bike that is a bit taller and better for touring with my midget GF... The Z1000 and Diavel are purely selfish bikes (In my opinion, certainly not the family sedan as the honda click has become lately).... I agree that the CBX would be a large step back in power, but so was the CBR 250, coming from a zx12r, which still was the best bike I have ever ridden (Back then)... It is hard to fault the 650 Ninja, it is smooth, reliable, solid (some students broke my rear indicator light today ARRHRHRHGHGHH) and a general very good bike, just so the Honda would surely be... The Diavel looks better in real life, much better, but the z1000 is just sex on wheels... bike porn... IMO... Next year is when I will order my next bike, and might even sell the 650, as it will be overflow of 2 wheels then, maybe get a Brio or something for the GF's duties... Time will tell on what is coming, and I am still waiting on the z800, I have to see it in real life before it is completely dissmissed... Hmmm, the keyboard left a key in my face... Thanks again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) I just saw that the seat height for the CBX is 810mm while the Versys is 845mm, now for a tall white guy, which one would be better? (don't know why I am still looking at them since I really really reallllllyy want the Z1000 or the Diavel)... someone hit me on the head... Hello Snowflake. You know, it's all your choice, and I would urge anyone to try and find their own happiness while they are here and all that, but ..... WHACK ! (That was an open palmed, electronic slap around the chops - probably serve you better than a hit on the head, in terms of bringing you around to your senses, rather than dulling them) I have seen, and read (and enjoyed) your posts since you got yourself a cbr 250, which you loved, and then upgraded to a er 650f , which you loved - and now, as much as you want a diavel, or z1000 - you are considering a Honda cb500x ? Bit of a step backwards, wouldn't you think ? I don't know what floats your boat, but if it's build quality and power, I think you would be taking a step backwards for sure, and thus in turn, contributing to possible future discontentment, and wasting of hard earned, cold, hard cash. Forget the Versys, unless you want a second bike and a different riding position - you are already there in terms of power and build with your current ride It's all subjective, of course, and I haven't seen a diavel in the metal - but the two bikes look super phat from different angles (z+d) asthetic wise, have immense power, acoustics, and although they cost a small fortune, would surely have far superior build quality and riding characteristics ? Again, I can't speak for the diavel, apart from video footage - and I don't particularily like the monster - but I have sat on, and ridden a z1000 (albeit for a short time) and in my very limited knowledge about bikes - it's a whole different ball game from your current, and any normal run of the mill ride in Thailand. As soon as you sit on the thing, it feels like a big step up in terms of thought, engineering, quality - just feels more solid and tight, and really fires the imagination, and grin. This level of bike, for me really epitomises what a bike should be, in all terms - and although it would seem to be never ending, I think would not leave you wanting quite so quickly as your rides to date. If it was me, I would offset the cost by selling your 650 - because your 650 and a 500x is 'almost' nearly there for a z. If you've got the readies - go for it, man, or, like me, hold off for next Year's market, when it should become a bit more juicy - choice and cost wise. I wish you much success and happiness in your choice - whatever your choice. Build quality!!! Are you suggesting the Kawasaki Er6 is better built than the new Honda 500's???? Have you actually seen the new Honda's? sent from my Q6 Hi thaicbr, how's it going ? If you would care to re-read and interpret my post in the context it was written, I was actually suggesting the z1000 or a diavel would be better in terms of build quality, components, inspiration and be more powerful in all areas including sensory, than both a er6f and a Honda 500 - only a suggestion, mind you - I actually haven't seen a Honda 500 in the metal - only in photographs, sofar. I must say, and it is only my opinion - I find it falls within the confines of a rather staid, boring generic, and does little to inspire me - in all areas, and I am in no way a massively experienced rider. Amongst riding a second hand steed, and an old cbr (a proper one) - I have owned, and been very happy with 5 small Hondas here, and purchased number 6 for my missus - although on the last two, they seem to have been pushed out to market too quickly with inherent design problems, and have been of lower overall quality, I would say. I love the 'big' Hondas, but I can't help feeling they've missed the point on this one - and they certainly wouldn't be the only company accusable of such crimes against biking humanity. I just feel that many of these 'new' releases, by massive corporations could be so much better than they are, in so many ways - they always seem to fall way short of their pre-release hype. Why not fatten it up in terms of spec and looks - push the boundries a bit more, and pit it congruously and realistically against, and over the competition - instead of trying to offer a cheaper alternative ? With the capital and experience these guys have, why not try to be a leader in the field of inspiration, instead of sticking to the same old stoic design philosophy / methodology ? These are only my own ramblings, and in no way would I take anything away from someone who would purchase a Honda, or any other bike - as a step in whatever direction. My original post was more geared towards Snowflake, and I feel was justifiable, given the context - a step up for some isn't for others. I would congratulate anyone on their new purchase of a Honda 500, and wish them full happiness on it. Personally, through experience with cheaper bikes, I would never buy a first run of a brand new release again - I would wait for any of the invariable problems to be ironed out on it first. Having said that - have you yourself seen one for real, and checked out the build quality, in terms of components, etc ? Relying on your own train of thought, and experience - would you say it's as well built as a Kawasaki 650 ? Would be interested to know honest opinions from an experienced biker, or anyone else.... Honda have apready pushed the boundries many times before like a fireblade oc cbr600 and you can buy now officially for 800 k:lol: I think you did not get it but companies like honda are driven by sales and profit not for our wildest wishes. Pushing the boundries and selling it do not make money. Look at cbr250. We critisize it by being low on power etc but what i read at some forums, it is the best selling bike this year! Besides they use less resources and petrol and can get the job of putting a smile on to your face done well. Quality wise, i did not see much difference between kawa er6nf and honda cbr500. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited November 30, 2012 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 39k for the exhaust (TIS emblem) and 28k for the rear sets. I like the Tsukigi idea. Thanks. Man, Brian, you started fast! First thing i ll change is the pipe and brake lines. The rest will follow after riding and learning the bike some time. But if they sell morivaki for cb500f then i am sure they are also selling mugen pipe and parts i have seen on mugen cbr500 then? Please say yes but do not tell 38k! Brian once get our bikes, we go whrooom around hard no worries:D Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) 39k for the exhaust (TIS emblem) and 28k for the rear sets. I like the Tsukigi idea. Thanks. Hopefully the Tsukigi would be loads cheaper :D I hope both you and Lazer give us some ride reports as soon as possible. I'm probably going to order the black Cbr next week. Just sorting out selling my 250 (2011ABS. black.5000km.original. 80000baht) sent from my Q6 You are a real 'thaicbr' thaicbr. I have no questions about it. From cbr150 to 250 to 500 all the way down there to here. same as me! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited November 30, 2012 by loserlazer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Double post i dont know why? Edited November 30, 2012 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) But 199 k for cb500f is too much man. Excited for tomorrow:D Happy for you man...been following this for awhile now. But you're right, 200k is too much for the CBF, I'll go back to plan a) and get a CRF250L and motard it Thanks neilly. But man if you decently motard a crf, it will be close to a cb500 pricewise i guess:) Dont change your plans and buy a cb500f or go for a second hand er6n. They sell good ones like 170k nowadays! Thanks for the pic's and info from the show Los...my thinking was I'd spend the same on the CBR as the CRF in after-market parts so the price would stay relative (not interested in the Kwak)...that was until you put the pic of the red 500F up (I didn't think they were doing them in red, just black or white)...the only real problem now is the servicing at Big Wing only...that is a deff problem for me I do like this...a lot Edited November 30, 2012 by Neilly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Just been having a dig about on the web and found some better pic's from the show (no disrespect to yours Loserlazer) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cbrer Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 The candy apple red CBF is gorgeous. The Moriwaki on the other hand!... I think there's going to be a lot of people putting some type of carbon fiber wrap on those muffler if it can withstand the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The only thing that I didn't like about the new CBR was the two black bolts holding the tank down. Other then that the bike is amazing and I'm going to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The only thing that I didn't like about the new CBR was the two black bolts holding the tank down. Other then that the bike is amazing and I'm going to get it. Exactky black panda. Two bolts holding tha tank looks horrible man. The bike looks like super cheap with it. I will find a way to cover it. The side plastics near the dash also looks really bad like cut by hand! All highlighted as green. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Neilly thanks for the new photos. Red cb500f looks good but it is a super bright red. It is like cherry or maroon red nearly like in cbr250. But you get less attention in traffic which is good I liked the lawa red 9n cbr500. Bad for police though i will be the first one to get spotted. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 That rear mud guard looks tricky to simply just remove, as it's molded into the rear light surround. The bike (as with all) will look much better with it gone I'm off to the Bitec within the next hour, looking forward to seeing this and those Benellis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) That rear mud guard looks tricky to simply just remove, as it's molded into the rear light surround.The bike (as with all) will look much better with it gone I'm off to the Bitec within the next hour, looking forward to seeing this and those Benellis Carlos not bitec man. It s held in impact arena - muang thong thani. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited December 1, 2012 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Neilly thanks for the new photos. Red cb500f looks good but it is a super bright red. It is like cherry or maroon red nearly like in cbr250. But you get less attention in traffic which is good I liked the lawa red 9n cbr500. Bad for police though i will be the first one to get spotted. No prob mate...I love that red on the CBF ...I will hold you entirely responsible for the upcoming 'discussions' with the wife when I get home in a weeks’ time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Neilly thanks for the new photos. Red cb500f looks good but it is a super bright red. It is like cherry or maroon red nearly like in cbr250. But you get less attention in traffic which is good I liked the lawa red 9n cbr500. Bad for police though i will be the first one to get spotted. No prob mate...I love that red on the CBF ...I will hold you entirely responsible for the upcoming 'discussions' with the wife when I get home in a weeks time Hahahaa neilly, i never want to create a family drama for you:D Yeah red on cb500f looks good man. Better than the black. A nice bad ass red better for a naked:D Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Edited December 1, 2012 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macknife Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Now that I've been there and seen it(CBR), I'm not so sure. Yes it looks ok, but the bottom(under) fairings and exhaust all chrome looking, is putting me off. The exhaust would have to go, so plus another 10-20K on top of what is already paid, is pushing it too close the ER6n price range. Talking of Kawasaki, those 250 ninjas look awesome, I mean really really nice, esp' the green and black one, and you wouldn't have to change anything on those. The quality looks very good. I might be tempted to get one of those instead and save myself 80,000B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Now that I've been there and seen it(CBR), I'm not so sure. Yes it looks ok, but the bottom(under) fairings and exhaust all chrome looking, is putting me off. The exhaust would have to go, so plus another 10-20K on top of what is already paid, is pushing it too close the ER6n price range. Talking of Kawasaki, those 250 ninjas look awesome, I mean really really nice, esp' the green and black one, and you wouldn't have to change anything on those. The quality looks very good. I might be tempted to get one of those instead and save myself 80,000B. Nah mate, you go for the CBR500 and point me in the direction of the new N250 that's 80k cheaper than it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macknife Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Now that I've been there and seen it(CBR), I'm not so sure. Yes it looks ok, but the bottom(under) fairings and exhaust all chrome looking, is putting me off. The exhaust would have to go, so plus another 10-20K on top of what is already paid, is pushing it too close the ER6n price range. Talking of Kawasaki, those 250 ninjas look awesome, I mean really really nice, esp' the green and black one, and you wouldn't have to change anything on those. The quality looks very good. I might be tempted to get one of those instead and save myself 80,000B. Nah mate, you go for the CBR500 and point me in the direction of the new N250 that's 80k cheaper than it. I'm putting the cost of a new exhaust and possibly new rear sets on top of the price. Perhaps not quite 80, but you know what I'm getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I ordered the Moriwaki exhaust and rear sets yesterday. The mirrors on the F look like something off a scooter. Those will have to go too. Brian, have you got a link for the exhaust? The Honda site isn't showning an exhaust - http://powersports.honda.com/2013/cb500f/accessoryPreview.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Hahahaa neilly, i never want to create a family drama for you Yeah red on cb500f looks good man. Better than the black. A nice bad ass red better for a naked:D No family drama mate...but the wife may be having the PCX ...but I bet I have to put the std exhaust back on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Now that I've been there and seen it(CBR), I'm not so sure. Yes it looks ok, but the bottom(under) fairings and exhaust all chrome looking, is putting me off. The exhaust would have to go, so plus another 10-20K on top of what is already paid, is pushing it too close the ER6n price range. Talking of Kawasaki, those 250 ninjas look awesome, I mean really really nice, esp' the green and black one, and you wouldn't have to change anything on those. The quality looks very good. I might be tempted to get one of those instead and save myself 80,000B. Nah mate, you go for the CBR500 and point me in the direction of the new N250 that's 80k cheaper than it. I'm putting the cost of a new exhaust and possibly new rear sets on top of the price. Perhaps not quite 80, but you know what I'm getting at. the N250 is 160K. and you would still have to change the exhaust and rearset on that bike too. i would rather pay 40k and get double the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The only thing that I didn't like about the new CBR was the two black bolts holding the tank down. Other then that the bike is amazing and I'm going to get it. Exactky black panda. Two bolts holding tha tank looks horrible man. The bike looks like super cheap with it. I will find a way to cover it. The side plastics near the dash also looks really bad like cut by hand! All highlighted as green. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App the handle bar screws are normal, just the tank screws for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Loserlazer or anybody else - are these the official set prices from Honda, e.g. Between 199k and 207k, or are those street prices like with the CBR250, eg they might come down as demand eases?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 ^ to answer my own question, yes, those are official prices, and it looks like Honda is setting these as fixed price rather than let small dealers inflate the prices. Which is great news. Official Honda page here http://www.aphonda.co.th/hondabigwing/home.html#product-CBR500X-spec.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 ^ to answer my own question, yes, those are official prices, and it looks like Honda is setting these as fixed price rather than let small dealers inflate the prices. Which is great news.Official Honda page here http://www.aphonda.co.th/hondabigwing/home.html#product-CBR500X-spec.html Nikster, on top of that, it is stated in the price list as 'motorshow special price' so the price might went up later on. And i got 2000 thb petrol coupon from honda.(3000 thb petrol for bikes over 500cc they said) Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macknife Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I was told by the sales guy at the expo that the prices will be the same in the future at Bigwing, and that the only special 'price' you got was the ability to make just a 5% down payment on buying the bike plus the fuel coupon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 And a bad news: Yesterday bigwing guys confirmed me that cbr500 has 47 hp on crank not wheel:( Three days ago three bigwing guys confirmed me 47 hp on rear wheel and yesterday another story. I guess bigwing is new and they dont know what they are saying/doing! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 And a bad news: Yesterday bigwing guys confirmed me that cbr500 has 47 hp on crank not wheel:( Three days ago three bigwing guys confirmed me 47 hp on rear wheel and yesterday another story. I guess bigwing is new and they dont know what they are saying/doing! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App And of.course those figures change dyno to dyno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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