yankee99 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Honda kicks Kawasaki in the knackers yet again... http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/9/17105/Motorcycle-Article/2013-Honda-CBR500R-vs-Ninja-300---650.aspx Funny i didnt see it like that. Seems if you want a boring beginners commuter bike then yes. If you want a fun bike then no. Also if you are a large build then the 300 is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Motorcyclist Magazine liked the Kawi 300 better- it's all about the testing criteria- there really aren't too many 'bad' bikes being built by any of the Big-Four. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/comparisons/122_1307_honda_cbr500r_vs_kawasaki_ninja_300/viewall.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Honda kicks Kawasaki in the knackers yet again... http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/9/17105/Motorcycle-Article/2013-Honda-CBR500R-vs-Ninja-300---650.aspx Funny i didnt see it like that. Seems if you want a boring beginners commuter bike then yes. If you want a fun bike then no. Also if you are a large build then the 300 is out. fun is in the eye of beholder yankee also it depends on your riding skills too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong! Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 ^ All 3 reviewers said if it was their money, they would buy the Honda. Can't you read or is it that it doesn't fit your misconception that a good bike has to have ridiculous performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong! Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Another hater... http://www.visordown.com/features/long-term-test-honda-cbr500r/23668.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If my budget would be around around THB 200,000 or so, I definitely would buy 1 of those 500ccs "The 500s aren’t the fastest, sharpest and probably not the sexiest. What they are, are some of the most accessible, practical, entertaining motorcycles you can buy." http://rideapart.com/2013/10/the-best-motorcycles-of-2013/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xastunts Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If my budget would be around around THB 200,000 or so, I definitely would buy 1 of those 500ccs "The 500s aren’t the fastest, sharpest and probably not the sexiest. What they are, are some of the most accessible, practical, entertaining motorcycles you can buy." http://rideapart.com/2013/10/the-best-motorcycles-of-2013/ What bike do u ride? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If my budget would be around around THB 200,000 or so, I definitely would buy 1 of those 500ccs "The 500s aren’t the fastest, sharpest and probably not the sexiest. What they are, are some of the most accessible, practical, entertaining motorcycles you can buy." http://rideapart.com/2013/10/the-best-motorcycles-of-2013/ What bike do u ride? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Multistrada 1200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Got me some Pirelli Angels today after 13,000 km on the Dunlops. Immediately felt the difference, especially in the turns, sooooooo much more grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 finally the specs for cbr500r racing bike for European Junior Cup below: So a full exhaust system, an ecu and an air filter with a proper dyno tune, our bikes can go 54 hp and 48 nm from 47 rwhp and 43 nm which is cool. Also dry weight went down to 146 kg and all these quality adjustable suspension systems, brake components etc i am sure it runs well. But not sure if those numbers are rear wheel hp figures, if rear wheel hp figures, it is a superb improvement! Engine type Liquid-Cooled, parallel twin Displacement & Bore x Stroke 471cm3 / 67 x 66.8mm Max. Power Output 54 bhp Max. Torque 48 Nm/7,000 rpm ECU Dynojet Power Commander V module Exhaust Full racing exhaust system Suspension - Front Andreani 20 mm cartridge unit (Fully adjustable for preload, compression, rebound and spring rate) Suspension - Rear Ohlins S46HR1C1L with remote preload adjuster (Fully adjustable for preload, compression, rebound and spring rate) Fairing & Protection Plastic Bike full race fairing with F.Fabbri race windscreen Febur lightweight aluminium instrument and fairing holder. MikyMotor race paintwork. Chain & Sprockets RK race chain / CHT Chiaravalli race sprockets Dimensions (LxWxH) 2,075 x 740 x 1,145mm Transmission 6 speed race sequence. HM quick shifter. Seat Race-seat removable pad. Fuel Racing fuel. 95 MOn. Lubricants Motul lubricants Brakes Motodex / HEL competition brakelines. Rizoma brake guard. SBS racing pads. Dry weight 146 Kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 most of those gains will be from the racing fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 most of those gains will be from the racing fuel does racing fuel make that much difference? asking bc i am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That Ohlins rear shock is around 42,000 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 finally the specs for cbr500r racing bike for European Junior Cup below: So a full exhaust system, an ecu and an air filter with a proper dyno tune, our bikes can go 54 hp and 48 nm from 47 rwhp and 43 nm which is cool. Also dry weight went down to 146 kg and all these quality adjustable suspension systems, brake components etc i am sure it runs well. But not sure if those numbers are rear wheel hp figures, if rear wheel hp figures, it is a superb improvement!Engine type Liquid-Cooled, parallel twin Displacement & Bore x Stroke 471cm3 / 67 x 66.8mm Max. Power Output 54 bhp Max. Torque 48 Nm/7,000 rpm ECU Dynojet Power Commander V module Exhaust Full racing exhaust system Suspension - Front Andreani 20 mm cartridge unit (Fully adjustable for preload, compression, rebound and spring rate) Suspension - Rear Ohlins S46HR1C1L with remote preload adjuster (Fully adjustable for preload, compression, rebound and spring rate) Fairing & Protection Plastic Bike full race fairing with F.Fabbri race windscreen Febur lightweight aluminium instrument and fairing holder. MikyMotor race paintwork. Chain & Sprockets RK race chain / CHT Chiaravalli race sprockets Dimensions (LxWxH) 2,075 x 740 x 1,145mm Transmission 6 speed race sequence. HM quick shifter. Seat Race-seat removable pad. Fuel Racing fuel. 95 MOn. Lubricants Motul lubricants Brakes Motodex / HEL competition brakelines. Rizoma brake guard. SBS racing pads. Dry weight 146 Kg Looks like they doubled the msrp ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 most of those gains will be from the racing fuel does racing fuel make that much difference? asking bc i am not sure. yes, its oxygenated. works on a similar principle as NOS, but not exactly the same or as powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That Ohlins rear shock is around 42,000 baht thermosman has an equivalent setup that is just as good for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That Ohlins rear shock is around 42,000 baht thermosman has an equivalent setup that is just as good for less. I have only ever heard Mike ( Thermosman ) services & tunes Ohlins Are you saying he is selling a suspension for various bikes now? If so where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 most of those gains will be from the racing fuel does racing fuel make that much difference? asking bc i am not sure. Mate of mine used it when production racing years ago at events he knew wouldn't have testing of fuel. Reckoned it was worth at least an extra 5% power gain it was that good:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That Ohlins rear shock is around 42,000 baht thermosman has an equivalent setup that is just as good for less. I have only ever heard Mike ( Thermosman ) services & tunes Ohlins Are you saying he is selling a suspension for various bikes now? If so where? yep, you have to send him an email, he has a rear shock for the cbr 250...i think its around $700 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brfsa2 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 just got a set of pirelli rosso2s yesterday for 8600 thb including balancing and everything from 'Big Wheel' shop as they are 2 km to my office and do not have any time nowadays to go far. Stock dunlops made 14,500 km and rear tire thread had around 1 mm left. Actually, these tires can still go a 100 km more but rear slide awkwardly a couple of days ago on wet so did not want to risk more as ti will be wet for a while in Bangkok sure! oh boy, what a difference. they transformed the bike into a different level as always expected from a fresh set of pirelli. It will get better after some break in also. bike stops faster, accelerate harder, dive into turns faster due to its profile. it is like my cbr500r is glued to the road now and i enjoy it the most Still, would like to say good things about stock dunlop d222s as they were fine for 14,500 km and still had enough grip and feedback. They were even fine on a track. I think pretty good quality for a set of stock tires on a budget bike and better and stickier than the stock dunlops on kawa 650s. But, i totally recommend an earlier tire change to pirelli rosso2s than 14.500 km. Which size did you buy for rear? 160? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 just got a set of pirelli rosso2s yesterday for 8600 thb including balancing and everything from 'Big Wheel' shop as they are 2 km to my office and do not have any time nowadays to go far. Stock dunlops made 14,500 km and rear tire thread had around 1 mm left. Actually, these tires can still go a 100 km more but rear slide awkwardly a couple of days ago on wet so did not want to risk more as ti will be wet for a while in Bangkok sure! oh boy, what a difference. they transformed the bike into a different level as always expected from a fresh set of pirelli. It will get better after some break in also. bike stops faster, accelerate harder, dive into turns faster due to its profile. it is like my cbr500r is glued to the road now and i enjoy it the most Still, would like to say good things about stock dunlop d222s as they were fine for 14,500 km and still had enough grip and feedback. They were even fine on a track. I think pretty good quality for a set of stock tires on a budget bike and better and stickier than the stock dunlops on kawa 650s. But, i totally recommend an earlier tire change to pirelli rosso2s than 14.500 km. Which size did you buy for rear? 160? i bought the same sizes as stock tires, yes, it is 160 at rear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 the Rosso 2 series is actually one size lower than the equivalent size from other brands eg; a 160 rosso 2 is actually the same as 150 from other manufacturers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 the Rosso 2 series is actually one size lower than the equivalent size from other brands eg; a 160 rosso 2 is actually the same as 150 from other manufacturers. really? i never know that! if that is true, it is better for me though as i feel 160 is to much and heavy for a 190 kg 500 cc bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 the Rosso 2 series is actually one size lower than the equivalent size from other brands eg; a 160 rosso 2 is actually the same as 150 from other manufacturers. really? i never know that! if that is true, it is better for me though as i feel 160 is to much and heavy for a 190 kg 500 cc bike. I didnt know either please elaborate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 the Rosso 2 series is actually one size lower than the equivalent size from other brands eg; a 160 rosso 2 is actually the same as 150 from other manufacturers. really? i never know that! if that is true, it is better for me though as i feel 160 is to much and heavy for a 190 kg 500 cc bike. i agree, i think the 160 is too large for the cbr500 also. if you can speak thai, ask any big bike shop that sells them, and theyll let you know the scoop on the Rosso 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 the Rosso 2 series is actually one size lower than the equivalent size from other brands eg; a 160 rosso 2 is actually the same as 150 from other manufacturers. really? i never know that! if that is true, it is better for me though as i feel 160 is to much and heavy for a 190 kg 500 cc bike. i agree, i think the 160 is too large for the cbr500 also. if you can speak thai, ask any big bike shop that sells them, and theyll let you know the scoop on the Rosso 2. I read so many reviews and cant find anyone complaining about size. I what way are you saying they are smaller as i have a set here will be happy to verify your claim.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 the Rosso 2 series is actually one size lower than the equivalent size from other brands eg; a 160 rosso 2 is actually the same as 150 from other manufacturers. really? i never know that! if that is true, it is better for me though as i feel 160 is to much and heavy for a 190 kg 500 cc bike. i agree, i think the 160 is too large for the cbr500 also. if you can speak thai, ask any big bike shop that sells them, and theyll let you know the scoop on the Rosso 2. I read so many reviews and cant find anyone complaining about size. I what way are you saying they are smaller as i have a set here will be happy to verify your claim.. check the size and see what you get, i think the 140 comes out to 133.5 ish would be good to know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 My 180 rosso II at 30 psi is 182 with no weight on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 maybe its only for the smaller tire sizes: http://www.ex-500.com/index.php?topic=60409.0 you didnt hold a tape measure across the tire did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 maybe its only for the smaller tire sizes: http://www.ex-500.com/index.php?topic=60409.0 you didnt hold a tape measure across the tire did you? No i used a square and straight edge.... I don't really understand the relevance of the link. Unless i missed something as rim fit and tire size are not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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