omnilangur Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Does anyone know how shows like "Thailands got Talent, The Voice, etc can get away with stealing every element of these American made TV shows? Do they pay for the copyright infringement before the chinese or after? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 They are official Thai versions of those shows. They have local versions in countries all over the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 How do you know they're not paying the licence? We have the same shows in the UK and much of Europe, identical format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 and you do know numerous shows you are stating as American, were actually British and the yanks stolen them off Simon Cowe, for a fee of course.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 How do you know they're not paying the licence? We have the same shows in the UK and much of Europe, identical format. The same shows in the UK originated in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 How do you know they're not paying the licence? We have the same shows in the UK and much of Europe, identical format. The same shows in the UK originated in the UK I thought at least some were UK origin but not certain, not my favourite shows anyway but seem to attract large audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) If you read the end credits is says from "Endemol Productions" owned by John de Mol, also the guy who did Big Brother, he lets countries use the ideas, and gets money for it. BTW - He had a great looking wife "Linda de Mol" Also most of the programs have started in Europe and then they go over the pond to America. Read - The Voice is an American reality talent show that premiered on April 26, 2011, on the NBC television network. Based on the reality singing competition The Voice of Holland, the series was created by Dutch television producer John de Mol[2] and is executive produced by Mark Burnett. It is part of an international series. The Voice immediately proved to be a hit for NBC and as of September 2012, the network is airing the third season. The second season premiered February 5, 2012, immediately following NBC's broadcast of Super Bowl XLVI. Edited September 23, 2012 by beano2274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 How do you know they're not paying the licence? We have the same shows in the UK and much of Europe, identical format. The same shows in the UK originated in the UK I thought at least some were UK origin but not certain, not my favourite shows anyway but seem to attract large audiences. Very easy to identify which shows came from the UK, anything Simon Cowe has his fingers in as a presenter or producer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLucifer Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The 'got talent' series of shows is from the UK, and I believe 'The Voice' originated in Holland, so...... Does anyone know how shows like "America's got Talent, The Voice, etc can get away with stealing every element of these European made TV shows? Do they pay for the copyright infringement before the chinese or after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnilangur Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... read my answer above "the Voice" is owned by John de Mol, and originated in Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLucifer Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... Are you sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 These shows are sold internationally and are called formatted shows. they sell the format, concept,etc., then the local producer localizes for a local audience. one of the most successful money making program sales in global tv industry. no need to rip them off, because there is no room for failure, better to buy proven format. kind of like franchising fast food worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The Bachelor and X Factor started in the US, but the others am sure you will find belong to John de Mol, and were tried and tested in Europe first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 most of these started as U.S. franchises. google mipcon if you want to know about global tv program sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... Not all of them orginated in the US, X-factor started in the UK, as did "America's got Talent" obviously called Britains got Talent, I beleive survivor was dutch, Big Brother was Dutch...and as for American idol...read it an weep...British show originally http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol Cant figure out whether you are trying to troll or just dont get out very often.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 If you google Endemol and look on wiki you will find some of the many programs that they have done, and most of them started in Europe. Reality television Auction Kings (produced by Endemol subsidiary Authentic Entertainment) Big Brother Secret Story (Version of Big Brother, exclusively for TF1, France, TVI, Portugal, and NET 5, Netherlands) Changing Rooms I Love Money Fear Factor (2001-2006; 2012-present) NBC The Big Donor Show Star Academy / Fame Academy Extreme Makeover: Home Edition The Bus The Games The Farm Jerseylicious Only Fools on Horses There's Something About Miriam Gay, Straight or Taken? Kid Nation Queen Bees Estate of Panic Southern Belles: Louisville Secret Story: France Big Brother: After Dark Survivor South Africa Love in the Wild Factual Restoration - Aired 2003, 2004, 2006 Restoration Home - Scheduled Spring 2011 Late night/variety shows Cronicas Marcianas Games Uplate Live (2006–2009; ABS-CBN) Drama Graduados (romantic comedy) Geet Hui Sabse Parayee (Romantic) Miley Jab Hum Tum (Romantic) Sabki Laadli Bebo (Emotional) Los exitosos Pells (Comedy) Botineras (police) Red Widow (crime drama/mystery) Game shows 1 vs. 100 101 Ways to Leave a Gameshow 20Q BrainTeaser Break the Bank Deal or No Deal Divided Eliminator Fear Factor For the Rest of Your Life Golden Balls Hotrods In the Grid Judas Game Midnight Money Madness The Million Pound Drop (quiz show) The Money List Participation TV Pointless Set for Life Show Me the Money Take the Cake The Bank Job Wipeout / Total Wipeout XXS – Extra Extra Small Wheel of Fortune[24] Children's shows The DJ Kat Show Gordon the Garden Gnome Bananas in Pyjamas Nini Pig's Breakfast Hi-5 How 2 The Adventures of Bottle Top Bill and His Best Friend Corky Animal Express Cushion Kids Classic Tales Aliens Among Us The Shak Roar The Tribe Dinky Dog R.L. Stine's The Haunting Hour Live TV Domino Day Sitcoms Hot in Cleveland (Distribution only) Happily Divorced The Exes Talk/Variety The Steve Harvey Show Documentary Instinto Asesino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The Bachelor and X Factor started in the US, but the others am sure you will find belong to John de Mol, and were tried and tested in Europe first X-factor was started in the UK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X_Factor_(UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... All these shows are horrible, certainly nothing to rally around the flag over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... Are you sure about that? No he isnt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I always thought America's Got Talent was just a rehash of Star Search from the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnilangur Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... Not all of them orginated in the US, X-factor started in the UK, as did "America's got Talent" obviously called Britains got Talent, I beleive survivor was dutch, Big Brother was Dutch...and as for American idol...read it an weep...British show originally http://en.wikipedia....i/American_Idol Cant figure out whether you are trying to troll or just dont get out very often.. Bachelor, Jersey Shore, Ultimate Fighter all started in the USA, lets not even start comparing international blockbusters..stop before I sleep bro!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 The infernal Academy Fantasia originated in Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang000999 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Our greatest export: shitty tv shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve down under Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 At the end of the day the person making a bucketload of money is the Dutch guy who started a lot of the shows you blokes are arguing about and has gone on to sell the international rights for the formats to many countries around the world ! if you look on you tube for any of the programs by name you will get videos from here there and everywhere and you will see that apart from minor details the sets are virtually identical whereever the show/s are produced , this is all part of the licenscing agreements for the shows to be broadcast in the various countries around the globe . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... Not all of them orginated in the US, X-factor started in the UK, as did "America's got Talent" obviously called Britains got Talent, I beleive survivor was dutch, Big Brother was Dutch...and as for American idol...read it an weep...British show originally http://en.wikipedia....i/American_Idol Cant figure out whether you are trying to troll or just dont get out very often.. He is probably just an ... American People there are also convinced that Airbus and Lexus are american brands ... Edited September 24, 2012 by JurgenG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... Not all of them orginated in the US, X-factor started in the UK, as did "America's got Talent" obviously called Britains got Talent, I beleive survivor was dutch, Big Brother was Dutch...and as for American idol...read it an weep...British show originally http://en.wikipedia....i/American_Idol Cant figure out whether you are trying to troll or just dont get out very often.. He is probably just an ... American People there are also convinced that Airbus and Lexus are american brands ... Well there was one of the colonial cousins who suggested yesterday that the jet engine was invented in the Land O free as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdinthailand Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Queer Eye for the Straight Guy! Definitely American original! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... Nonsense! In order to truly be in our league you'll need to have sent Neil Armstrong to the moon.......on a hang-glider Back on topic; I note soundtracks of popular films/series (Titanic, Band of Brothers, Pearl HarboUr) accompany Thai soaps with annoying frequency whenever I skip through the channels. Edited September 24, 2012 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 If you can get hold of an original 1993 edition of Microsoft Encarta there are a number of US 'inventions' that others invented first. IIRC they include the jet engine, RADAR and hovercraft all of which are European if not British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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