Does anyone know how shows like "Thailands got Talent, The Voice, etc can get away with stealing every element of these American made TV shows? Do they pay for the copyright infringement before the chinese or after?

They are official Thai versions of those shows. They have local versions in countries all over the world

How do you know they're not paying the licence?

We have the same shows in the UK and much of Europe, identical format.

and you do know numerous shows you are stating as American, were actually British and the yanks stolen them off Simon Cowe, for a fee of course....

How do you know they're not paying the licence?

We have the same shows in the UK and much of Europe, identical format.

The same shows in the UK originated in the UK

How do you know they're not paying the licence?

We have the same shows in the UK and much of Europe, identical format.

The same shows in the UK originated in the UK

I thought at least some were UK origin but not certain, not my favourite shows anyway but seem to attract large audiences.

If you read the end credits is says from "Endemol Productions" owned by John de Mol, also the guy who did Big Brother, he lets countries use the ideas, and gets money for it.

BTW - He had a great looking wife "Linda de Mol"

Also most of the programs have started in Europe and then they go over the pond to America.

Read - The Voice is an American reality talent show that premiered on April 26, 2011, on the NBC television network. Based on the reality singing competition The Voice of Holland, the series was created by Dutch television producer John de Mol^[2] and is executive produced by Mark Burnett. It is part of an international series. The Voice immediately proved to be a hit for NBC and as of September 2012, the network is airing the third season. The second season premiered February 5, 2012, immediately following NBC's broadcast of Super Bowl XLVI.

Edited September 23, 201213 yr by beano2274

How do you know they're not paying the licence?

We have the same shows in the UK and much of Europe, identical format.

The same shows in the UK originated in the UK

I thought at least some were UK origin but not certain, not my favourite shows anyway but seem to attract large audiences.

Very easy to identify which shows came from the UK, anything Simon Cowe has his fingers in as a presenter or producer..

The 'got talent' series of shows is from the UK, and I believe 'The Voice' originated in Holland, so......

Does anyone know how shows like "America's got Talent, The Voice, etc can get away with stealing every element of these European made TV shows? Do they pay for the copyright infringement before the chinese or after?

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

read my answer above "the Voice" is owned by John de Mol, and originated in Holland.

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

Are you sure about that?

These shows are sold internationally and are called formatted shows. they sell the format, concept,etc., then the local producer localizes for a local audience. one of the most successful money making program sales in global tv industry. no need to rip them off, because there is no room for failure, better to buy proven format. kind of like franchising fast food worldwide.

The Bachelor and X Factor started in the US, but the others am sure you will find belong to John de Mol, and were tried and tested in Europe first

most of these started as U.S. franchises. google mipcon if you want to know about global tv program sales.

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

Not all of them orginated in the US, X-factor started in the UK, as did "America's got Talent" obviously called Britains got Talent, I beleive survivor was dutch, Big Brother was Dutch...and as for American idol...read it an weep...British show originally

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol

Cant figure out whether you are trying to troll or just dont get out very often..

If you google Endemol and look on wiki you will find some of the many programs that they have done, and most of them started in Europe.

Reality television

• Auction Kings (produced by Endemol subsidiary Authentic Entertainment)
  
• Big Brother
  
• Secret Story (Version of Big Brother, exclusively for TF1, France, TVI, Portugal, and NET 5, Netherlands)
  
• Changing Rooms
  
• I Love Money
  
• Fear Factor (2001-2006; 2012-present) NBC
  
• The Big Donor Show
  
• Star Academy / Fame Academy
  
• Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
  
• The Bus
  
• The Games
  
• The Farm
  
• Jerseylicious
  
• Only Fools on Horses
  
• There's Something About Miriam
  
• Gay, Straight or Taken?
  
• Kid Nation
  
• Queen Bees
  
• Estate of Panic
  
• Southern Belles: Louisville
  
• Secret Story: France
  
• Big Brother: After Dark
  
• Survivor South Africa
  
• Love in the Wild
  

Factual

• Restoration - Aired 2003, 2004, 2006
  
• Restoration Home - Scheduled Spring 2011
  

Late night/variety shows

• Cronicas Marcianas
  
• Games Uplate Live (2006–2009; ABS-CBN)
  

Drama

• Graduados (romantic comedy)
  
• Geet Hui Sabse Parayee (Romantic)
  
• Miley Jab Hum Tum (Romantic)
  
• Sabki Laadli Bebo (Emotional)
  
• Los exitosos Pells (Comedy)
  
• Botineras (police)
  
• Red Widow (crime drama/mystery)
  

Game shows

• 1 vs. 100
  
• 101 Ways to Leave a Gameshow
  
• 20Q
  
• BrainTeaser
  
• Break the Bank
  
• Deal or No Deal
  
• Divided
  
• Eliminator
  
• Fear Factor
  
• For the Rest of Your Life
  
• Golden Balls
  
• Hotrods
  
• In the Grid
  
• Judas Game
  
• Midnight Money Madness
  
• The Million Pound Drop (quiz show)
  
• The Money List
  
• Participation TV
  
• Pointless
  
• Set for Life
  
• Show Me the Money
  
• Take the Cake
  
• The Bank Job
  
• Wipeout / Total Wipeout
  
• XXS – Extra Extra Small
  
• Wheel of Fortune^[24]
  

Children's shows

• The DJ Kat Show
  
• Gordon the Garden Gnome
  
• Bananas in Pyjamas
  
• Nini
  
• Pig's Breakfast
  
• Hi-5
  
• How 2
  
• The Adventures of Bottle Top Bill and His Best Friend Corky
  
• Animal Express
  
• Cushion Kids
  
• Classic Tales
  
• Aliens Among Us
  
• The Shak
  
• Roar
  
• The Tribe
  
• Dinky Dog
  
• R.L. Stine's The Haunting Hour
  

Live TV

• Domino Day
  

Sitcoms

• Hot in Cleveland (Distribution only)
  
• Happily Divorced
  
• The Exes
  

Talk/Variety

• The Steve Harvey Show
  

Documentary

• Instinto Asesino
  

The Bachelor and X Factor started in the US, but the others am sure you will find belong to John de Mol, and were tried and tested in Europe first

X-factor was started in the UK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X_Factor_(UK)

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

All these shows are horrible, certainly nothing to rally around the flag over

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

Are you sure about that?

No he isnt..

I always thought America's Got Talent was just a rehash of Star Search from the 80's.

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

Not all of them orginated in the US, X-factor started in the UK, as did "America's got Talent" obviously called Britains got Talent, I beleive survivor was dutch, Big Brother was Dutch...and as for American idol...read it an weep...British show originally

http://en.wikipedia....i/American_Idol

Cant figure out whether you are trying to troll or just dont get out very often..

Bachelor, Jersey Shore, Ultimate Fighter all started in the USA, lets not even start comparing international blockbusters..stop before I sleep bro!~

The infernal Academy Fantasia originated in Mexico.

Our greatest export: shitty tv shows.

At the end of the day the person making a bucketload of money is the Dutch guy who started a lot of the shows you blokes are arguing about and has gone on to sell the international rights for the formats to many countries around the world ! if you look on you tube for any of the programs by name you will get videos from here there and everywhere and you will see that apart from minor details the sets are virtually identical whereever the show/s are produced , this is all part of the licenscing agreements for the shows to be broadcast in the various countries around the globe .

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

Not all of them orginated in the US, X-factor started in the UK, as did "America's got Talent" obviously called Britains got Talent, I beleive survivor was dutch, Big Brother was Dutch...and as for American idol...read it an weep...British show originally

http://en.wikipedia....i/American_Idol

Cant figure out whether you are trying to troll or just dont get out very often..

He is probably just an ... American

People there are also convinced that Airbus and Lexus are american brands ...

Edited September 24, 201213 yr by JurgenG

The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

Not all of them orginated in the US, X-factor started in the UK, as did "America's got Talent" obviously called Britains got Talent, I beleive survivor was dutch, Big Brother was Dutch...and as for American idol...read it an weep...British show originally

http://en.wikipedia....i/American_Idol

Cant figure out whether you are trying to troll or just dont get out very often..

He is probably just an ... American

People there are also convinced that Airbus and Lexus are american brands ...

Well there was one of the colonial cousins who suggested yesterday that the jet engine was invented in the Land O free as well

Queer Eye for the Straight Guy! Definitely American original!

The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide.....

Nonsense! In order to truly be in our league you'll need to have sent Neil Armstrong to the moon.......on a hang-glider

Back on topic; I note soundtracks of popular films/series (Titanic, Band of Brothers, Pearl HarboUr) accompany Thai soaps with annoying frequency whenever I skip through the channels.

Edited September 24, 201213 yr by evadgib

If you can get hold of an original 1993 edition of Microsoft Encarta there are a number of US 'inventions' that others invented first. IIRC they include the jet engine, RADAR and hovercraft all of which are European if not British.