omnilangur Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Next up is MOVIES AND MUSIC.........Australia has NOTHING. The UK aint Bad, but the USA has the best movies in the world! That's a bit of an ethnocentric statement don't you think? I am sure if it was put to a worldwide vote, Bollywood would trounce the yanks, as would the Hong Kong movie industry with all the Chinese votes. Country music and gangsta rap disqualifies the US on any music front. Yes, especially about the music, but man that Bollywood crap is completely repetitive and totally uncreative; as is much (not all) of China's contributions You got to give the US credit for Hollywood, maybe not for edifying content, but definitely for continually raising the bar technologically and visually. Checkout the BOX office earning of American Movies compared with any in the world NO NEED for world wide vote, the earnings PROVE my point and Music with hip hop rock and country taking america off the map its still puts the USA as NUMBER 1 again in Profit! I agree just look at a beautiful movie like Avatar and compare it with anything else ever seen in another country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Once again the creator of Avatar is Canadian James Cameron, But it is still an example of the high level of technical achievement that comes from Hollywood. Movies seem to have no limits anymore in what they can create, it is a golden age for visual effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Checkout the BOX office earning of American Movies compared with any in the world NO NEED for world wide vote, the earnings PROVE my point and Music with hip hop rock and country taking america off the map its still puts the USA as NUMBER 1 again in Profit! I agree just look at a beautiful movie like Avatar and compare it with anything else ever seen in another country? The fact that a movie makes a lot of money doesn't necessarily make it a good movie. Good movies tell stories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 most of these started as U.S. franchises. google mipcon if you want to know about global tv program sales. If you compare the number of TV shows and Movies that have gone famous overseas, you can STARE up to the Statue of Liberty...... But not X factor Who wants to be a millionaire The Office Got Talent Big Brother Idol And these were the content of your original post......plus some more btw all of these shows are crap IMO...but not septic born......be happy about that at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Next up is MOVIES AND MUSIC.........Australia has NOTHING. The UK aint Bad, but the USA has the best movies in the world! We rule the world for music......Give me American comparisons with the following Led Zep Beatles Rolling Stones Pink Floyd ...just for starters 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 To summarize a couple of previous posts, British, Canadians, Chinese, Indians ... even the French, all know how to make (good) movies. But Americans know how to make money. Does it sound fair enough ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 To summarize a couple of previous posts, British, Canadians, Chinese, Indians ... even the French, all know how to make (good) movies. But Americans know how to make money. Does it sound fair enough ? Yes but they like the world to know this also 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Next up is MOVIES AND MUSIC.........Australia has NOTHING. The UK aint Bad, but the USA has the best movies in the world! We rule the world for music......Give me American comparisons with the following Led Zep Beatles Rolling Stones Pink Floyd ...just for starters and although I am not a Aussie...but AC DC (Yes I know the brother's Young were born in Scotland) MADMAX movies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliaminBKK Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) Anyone seen The Sinking of the Laconia ? it tells a great story and is so well done IMO. I don't think Hollywood focuses much on history. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ4YKxbSOf8&list=PLC5B2F97D33DEDD21&feature=plcp Edit: It is long a long movie 3 hours and should auto play with the above link. Edited October 6, 2012 by WilliaminBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thailand copies American shows because they have no substance and are dead easy to copy. The British dramas for example, would be far too difficult, the plots not understood and they don't have enough money to put in all the fine detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thailand copies American shows because they have no substance and are dead easy to copy. The British dramas for example, would be far too difficult, the plots not understood and they don't have enough money to put in all the fine detail. Which is the same reason America copies these British shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thailand copies American shows because they have no substance and are dead easy to copy. The British dramas for example, would be far too difficult, the plots not understood and they don't have enough money to put in all the fine detail. Which is the same reason America copies these British shows. .............badly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 To summarize a couple of previous posts, British, Canadians, Chinese, Indians ... even the French, all know how to make (good) movies. But Americans know how to make money.Does it sound fair enough ? Scorcese, Altman, Coppola, Eastwood, Allen, Lynch, Malick, Sayles, Spielberg...need I say more? And if you don't know the work of these directors, maybe you shouldn't be flapping your gums about how terrible American movies are. And I haven't even started on the great American film makers who have already passed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 To summarize a couple of previous posts, British, Canadians, Chinese, Indians ... even the French, all know how to make (good) movies. But Americans know how to make money.Does it sound fair enough ? Scorcese, Altman, Coppola, Eastwood, Allen, Lynch, Malick, Sayles, Spielberg...need I say more? And if you don't know the work of these directors, maybe you shouldn't be flapping your gums about how terrible American movies are. And I haven't even started on the great American film makers who have already passed away. American movies are great. American sit coms died with Archie Bunker (a copy of Alf Garnett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 To summarize a couple of previous posts, British, Canadians, Chinese, Indians ... even the French, all know how to make (good) movies. But Americans know how to make money.Does it sound fair enough ? Scorcese, Altman, Coppola, Eastwood, Allen, Lynch, Malick, Sayles, Spielberg...need I say more? And if you don't know the work of these directors, maybe you shouldn't be flapping your gums about how terrible American movies are. And I haven't even started on the great American film makers who have already passed away. American movies are great. American sit coms died with Archie Bunker (a copy of Alf Garnett) Didn't enjoy Frasier, Seinfeld, Modern Family, Curb Your Enthusiasm, or Arrested Development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 To summarize a couple of previous posts, British, Canadians, Chinese, Indians ... even the French, all know how to make (good) movies. But Americans know how to make money.Does it sound fair enough ? Scorcese, Altman, Coppola, Eastwood, Allen, Lynch, Malick, Sayles, Spielberg...need I say more? And if you don't know the work of these directors, maybe you shouldn't be flapping your gums about how terrible American movies are. And I haven't even started on the great American film makers who have already passed away. American movies are great. American sit coms died with Archie Bunker (a copy of Alf Garnett) Didn't enjoy Frasier, Seinfeld, Modern Family, Curb Your Enthusiasm, or Arrested Development? Frasier was funny - the others didn't make it to the UK - except for the overrated Seinfield (IMO) I agree American Movies are the best - but they have some huge budget to assist also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Many of the best American films have been made on small budgets. Lots come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabC Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 To summarize a couple of previous posts, British, Canadians, Chinese, Indians ... even the French, all know how to make (good) movies. But Americans know how to make money.Does it sound fair enough ? Scorcese, Altman, Coppola, Eastwood, Allen, Lynch, Malick, Sayles, Spielberg...need I say more? And if you don't know the work of these directors, maybe you shouldn't be flapping your gums about how terrible American movies are. And I haven't even started on the great American film makers who have already passed away. American movies are great. American sit coms died with Archie Bunker (a copy of Alf Garnett) Didn't enjoy Frasier, Seinfeld, Modern Family, Curb Your Enthusiasm, or Arrested Development? NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) NO Fair enough. So what does it for you? The acclaimed British comedies I see (Little Britain, AbFab, Catherine Tate, Gavin & Stacey, etc.) don't do much for me, either. To say nothing of the likes of the even lower-brow Mr. Bean and Benny Hill. Monty Python, yes...but that was 40 years ago now. Black Adder, yes. Nothing more recent than that, at least that I've seen. I would be happy to have you recommend something. Edited October 6, 2012 by NewlyMintedThai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 US Sitcoms last hurrah was Seinfeld. Although it likely does not appeal to the British sense of humor. The only thing TV has going these days are the non network series made by HBO and others. but a lot of these are only 13 episodes a year so quality over quantity I guess. It is a long wait now for the next Mad Men and Game of Thrones, but Dexter is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I would be happy to have you recommend something. The UK version of Shameless, but fear you being a colonial cousin, you wouldnt get it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Next up is MOVIES AND MUSIC.........Australia has NOTHING. The UK aint Bad, but the USA has the best movies in the world! We rule the world for music......Give me American comparisons with the following Led Zep Beatles Rolling Stones Pink Floyd ...just for starters Game set match, as far as music is concerned; although these are representative of an era gone by . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I would be happy to have you recommend something. The UK version of Shameless, but fear you being a colonial cousin, you wouldnt get it.. Thanks. I'll give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Next up is MOVIES AND MUSIC.........Australia has NOTHING. The UK aint Bad, but the USA has the best movies in the world! We rule the world for music......Give me American comparisons with the following Led Zep Beatles Rolling Stones Pink Floyd ...just for starters Game set match, as far as music is concerned; although these are representative of an era gone by . ...and all based on a derivation of an American musical genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Next up is MOVIES AND MUSIC.........Australia has NOTHING. The UK aint Bad, but the USA has the best movies in the world! We rule the world for music......Give me American comparisons with the following Led Zep Beatles Rolling Stones Pink Floyd ...just for starters Game set match, as far as music is concerned; although these are representative of an era gone by . ...and all based on a derivation of an American musical genre. We could say that all American creativity is based on the English language but that would be petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtumlion Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 The X Factor and American Idol, but 'The Voice' America's Got Talent', the bachelor, survivor, etc all started in the USA. Don't even attempt to try and compare whose more original, The US topples the UK in the creative department by a landslide..... All these shows are horrible, certainly nothing to rally around the flag over Its a bit like trying to take credit for having the smelliest fart... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 We could say that all American creativity is based on the English language but that would be petty And nonsensical, since we're talking about music. There would be no Stones, Beatles, Who, etc. without Little Richard, Elvis, Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, and countless American bluesmen who preceded them. And Messrs Jagger, McCartney, and Townshend would be the first to admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Next up is MOVIES AND MUSIC.........Australia has NOTHING. The UK aint Bad, but the USA has the best movies in the world! We rule the world for music......Give me American comparisons with the following Led Zep Beatles Rolling Stones Pink Floyd ...just for starters Game set match, as far as music is concerned; although these are representative of an era gone by . ...and all based on a derivation of an American musical genre. Did America invent music too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtumlion Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 This thread is a nice example of what Thai expats do when the bars close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chonabot Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) We could say that all American creativity is based on the English language but that would be petty And nonsensical, since we're talking about music. There would be no Stones, Beatles, Who, etc. without Little Richard, Elvis, Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, and countless American bluesmen who preceded them. And Messrs Jagger, McCartney, and Townshend would be the first to admit it. Music/Lyrics...language/nuances. I agree about the influences and in turn there were some decent bands influenced by the Brit invasion - alas these days there are scarce few decent bands on either side of the pond. I blame X factor...hang on that's how this thread started Edited October 6, 2012 by chonabot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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