14-Year-Old Girl Arrested For Running Underage Prostitution Ring In Samut Prakan

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14-year-old girl arrested for running underage prostitution ring in Samut Prakan

By Coconuts Bangkok

Samut Prakan's Bang Phli district

SAMUT PRAKAN: -- A 14-year-old Samut Prakan girl has been arrested for reportedly running a prostitution scheme out of a motel.

Police conducted and undercover sting operation at the motel in Samut Prakan’s Bang Phli district, said Pol Maj-Gen Chavalit Sawaengphuet, head of the Anti-Human Trafficking Division.

Full story: http://www.coconutsb...n-samut-prakan/

-- COCONUTS Bangkok 2012-11-05

[Pimay1]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

[Bill999]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

Don't really understand what you mean...d'you mean that it is normal practice in your part of Isan for 14 year olds to run prostitution rings?

[ratcatcher]

Is she too young to be called 'madam"?

[laurentbkk]

wow a 14years old mama san ...that's quite young to start in the profession .

[osiboy]

not suprising news but,...what i've never understood about thailand is how easy it seems for these girls to get into prostitution , and some it seems with the blessing of the parents , it just seems thais look on it as "no big deal" when there kids start being payed for sex at the drop of a hat, {or knickers more like}.....where is the morality amoung thais ? is there any ? does it exist here ?......i see very little evidence of any

[CTO]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

Don't really understand what you mean...d'you mean that it is normal practice in your part of Isan for 14 year olds to run prostitution rings?

It's pretty common across Thailand sadly, I've heard of this happening in Bangkok and a number of other places. I always laugh when I am told by NGO's how the girls are "sold" into bars etc by their evil families, the greatest recruiters are other girls in the bar.

But that doesn't sound so good when you're a doe eyed dancer trying to convince someone you'd really don't like working there, nor as wallet opening if you're a NGO trying to "save" the same gals.

Frankly a poor reflection upon Sex Education in Thailand which is pretty dismal, the country with one of the highest unmarried teen pregnancy rates in the world.

[davejones]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

[hyperdimension]

not suprising news but,...what i've never understood about thailand is how easy it seems for these girls to get into prostitution , and some it seems with the blessing of the parents , it just seems thais look on it as "no big deal"

It hasn't been uncommon traditionally for parents to "marry off" their daughter when she's only a teenager. The more money the guy has, the happier the parents may be, regardless of whether he is a dirty pedophile.

Edited November 5, 2012 by hyperdimension

[nanapong]

not suprising news but,...what i've never understood about thailand is how easy it seems for these girls to get into prostitution , and some it seems with the blessing of the parents , it just seems thais look on it as "no big deal" when there kids start being payed for sex at the drop of a hat, {or knickers more like}.....where is the morality amoung thais ? is there any ? does it exist here ?......i see very little evidence of any

There is very little morality among Thais and yes of course the parents condone it especially those from Issan. I've seen the jealousy myself among parents in the village. It's no big deal if a girl works the bars in Pattaya and there's absolutely no shame whatsoever. I would add that i've never seen any at 14yrs old but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[Bangkokhatter]

This is not Isaan though is it. It's a relativaly prosperous area just outside of BKK, where jobs are plentiful and you have to wonder what the parents of the girl were thinking, thats if they knew anything about it in the first place.

[angsta]

Slow down people.

At 14 you are still a minor and should be treated as such. Running a prostitution ring? A 14 year old girl in Thailand? Yeah, I am sure it's her taking all the cash.

Pull the other one, it has bells on.

Now who is really behind this?

[EvilDrSomkid]

Slow down people.

At 14 you are still a minor and should be treated as such. Running a prostitution ring? A 14 year old girl in Thailand? Yeah, I am sure it's her taking all the cash.

Pull the other one, it has bells on.

Now who is really behind this?

Thank you for putting some reason in to this.

As regards underage prostitution, it is rife. I went to see Chuwit give a presentation at the FCCT. He showed footage from a brothel in Changoengsao. Almost all the girls were underage. Some as young as 14.

They pay the local cops between 40 to 50k a month to stay in operation.

[jamstock]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

Don't really understand what you mean...d'you mean that it is normal practice in your part of Isan for 14 year olds to run prostitution rings?

It's pretty common across Thailand sadly, I've heard of this happening in Bangkok and a number of other places. I always laugh when I am told by NGO's how the girls are "sold" into bars etc by their evil families, the greatest recruiters are other girls in the bar.

But that doesn't sound so good when you're a doe eyed dancer trying to convince someone you'd really don't like working there, nor as wallet opening if you're a NGO trying to "save" the same gals.

Frankly a poor reflection upon Sex Education in Thailand which is pretty dismal, the country with one of the highest unmarried teen pregnancy rates in the world.

Do you have any stats to support above statement?

[animatic]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

In theory yes. Local police eh?

in reality, likely you are going to be reporting it to one of her bosses partners.

And the more you push the more likely you get pushed back at.

If there is some sort of wide scale publicity then there may be some action,

but limited to the one child and her circle. As soon s it's quiet again,

back to business as usual, but minus one nosy farang in the neighborhood.

This is not your culture, they do NOT have guilt and ethics in the same way you do,

they will likely worry more about the 'lose of face' than about 'the age of the girl'.

Sure, they don't want their nationalistic country losing face in the eyes of bigger

western countries if the story gets out too far.

But more for that face loss than our western angst about the child.

This is not your land, you the square peg trying to fit

into the in a shape-changing hole.

Edited November 5, 2012 by animatic

[Pimay1]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

Dave, Dave, Dave, I think for sure without being mean you fall into one of the following three clasifications. Never been to Thailand, just arrive or a troll. I will give you the benifit of the doubt on being a troll. I have lived in Isaan since 1995. The local police are one of the major participants of this pleasure tour of young ones so to speak at my girl friend's sister's "resort" ( <Snip!> hotel) just outside this village just like they are in the daily hi-low game next door to me. They come to collect their daily 500 Baht and stay to play hi-low. If I reported it who would I report it to Super Charlem?

Edited November 5, 2012 by metisdead

[ThaiRich]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

It probably wouldn't do him any good. The ring is probably being run by the police or paying the police off.

[ThaiRich]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

Don't really understand what you mean...d'you mean that it is normal practice in your part of Isan for 14 year olds to run prostitution rings?

It's pretty common across Thailand sadly, I've heard of this happening in Bangkok and a number of other places. I always laugh when I am told by NGO's how the girls are "sold" into bars etc by their evil families, the greatest recruiters are other girls in the bar.

But that doesn't sound so good when you're a doe eyed dancer trying to convince someone you'd really don't like working there, nor as wallet opening if you're a NGO trying to "save" the same gals.

Frankly a poor reflection upon Sex Education in Thailand which is pretty dismal, the country with one of the highest unmarried teen pregnancy rates in the world.

Do you have any stats to support above statement?

Do you have any stats to prove him wrong? He doesn't have to prove he is right or his stats are correct. You have to prove him wrong.

[Pimay1]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

It probably wouldn't do him any good. The ring is probably being run by the police or paying the police off.

Spot on.

[orang37]

Do you have any stats to support above statement?

Do you have any stats to prove him wrong? He doesn't have to prove he is right or his stats are correct. You have to prove him wrong.

This is a logical fallacy: the "burden of proof" falls upon the one advancing a hypothetical explanation, proposing a theory, accusing someone of a crime, etc.

These rather "abstract" remarks do not mean that I do not the find the situation of 14 year old girl running a prostitution ring heinous: I do ! But, we have no reliable information about how she came to be in this position (should I say "prone to be be in this condition" ?), and I am sure we will never have such information.

I agree with other posters who have suggested she was a "fall girl," who'll "take the heat" for "hidden hands," and I reject the hypothesis this is an example of some kind of "budding, young, early entrepreneurial genius, in the field of human body-rental" based on Occam's Razor, aka "horse-sense."

~o:37;

Edited November 5, 2012 by orang37

[Sateev]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

Get back to us when you've been here a while, Davey-boy...hope the shock of your awakening doesn't do any permanent damage...

[pacovl46]

So, she get's a 500 Baht finder's fee when she supplies men to her prostitute friends and then she's accused of running the whole thing??? Maybe it's her prostitute friends who hired her to find customers.

[Songhua]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

I don't think anyone's condoning child prostitution Dave Maybe half the population could report the other half?

Amazing how many are living in a country they appear to know nothing about, let alone what's happening at the other end of their own soi. Not that they'd need to ... they wouldn't be able to grasp the concepts anyhow.

A farang 'reporting' something (right or wrong in our minds) ingrained in Thai culture to other Thais who understand it all too well - and in a lot of cases, condone it. Lol.

This story's not even the tip of an iceberg. It's just one little chunk well and truly solidified in the middle of it.

[yourauntbob]

She must not have learned to pay off the cops. In the future she will have her tea money ready.

[jpinx]

Some of you guys really need to get out and about a bit more. It's the oldest trade in the world, makes most money and is run by the biggest bosses. Doesn't matter what country you look into - it's there. I can speak from personal first-hand observations in South America, Africa, India, New Zealand, Italy, Spain, Germany, ad nauseum .......

[Jayman]

Undercover agents pretended to solicit sex arranged by the girl, who was charging THB2,000 each for two other underage girls aged 14 and 16

The girls were arrested immediately..

This sounds like a huge ring indeed. So glad they shut it down now and arrested the girls involved . Send all these harlots to the monkey house.

Edited November 5, 2012 by Jayman

[ThaiRich]

Do you have any stats to support above statement?

Do you have any stats to prove him wrong? He doesn't have to prove he is right or his stats are correct. You have to prove him wrong.

This is a logical fallacy: the "burden of proof" falls upon the one advancing a hypothetical explanation, proposing a theory, accusing someone of a crime, etc.

These rather "abstract" remarks do not mean that I do not the find the situation of 14 year old girl running a prostitution ring heinous: I do ! But, we have no reliable information about how she came to be in this position (should I say "prone to be be in this condition" ?), and I am sure we will never have such information.

I agree with other posters who have suggested she was a "fall girl," who'll "take the heat" for "hidden hands," and I reject the hypothesis this is an example of some kind of "budding, young, early entrepreneurial genius, in the field of human body-rental" based on Occam's Razor, aka "horse-sense."

~o:37;

no no no. If you are saying he is wrong, prove it. Right "the burden of proof" you have the burden of proof to prove that the stats he has quoted are wrong.

[nakhonandy]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

I don't think anyone's condoning child prostitution Dave Maybe half the population could report the other half?

Amazing how many are living in a country they appear to know nothing about, let alone what's happening at the other end of their own soi. Not that they'd need to ... they wouldn't be able to grasp the concepts anyhow.

A farang 'reporting' something (right or wrong in our minds) ingrained in Thai culture to other Thais who understand it all too well - and in a lot of cases, condone it. Lol.

This story's not even the tip of an iceberg. It's just one little chunk well and truly solidified in the middle of it.

Unfortunately I have to agree, this goes on all the time all over the place and is well known to the Thais themselves. In fact the major customers of these younger girls/boys are Thais themselves (at least I am so informed by a couple of Thai friends).

As someone else pointed out she is no way the leader, just the fall person.

[Markaew]

This is news worthy? It's business as usual here in Isaan.

I presume you're just a troll. But if you're not then I suggest you report what you know to the local police. Or do you condone child prostitution? If you know this goes on and don't report it, then you deserve to be locked up.

You are looking his statement with western standards and what he is saying is true. Reporting to the police only gets you in trouble because the police already know about it. This 14 year old got busted because somebody didn't pay up. You apparently have never lived in Isaan. You see these things and keep your mouth shut to avoid problems of you own.

[asdecas]

Interesting map accompanying the original article. Might it be helpful to have a place name or two on it, just to speed things along?