webfact Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Thailand ranked 8th most dangerous country, top in SE Asia The Nation BANGKOK: Thailand has been ranked No 8 among countries most prone to terrorist attacks mainly due to insurgency in the deep South. According to the Global Terrorism Index (GTI) covering 158 countries, Thailand is the worst in Southeast Asia and the fifth worst in all Asia. The top four countries in the list are all from Asia - Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and India - where terrorist incidents were "heavily concentrated". Thailand ranks top among the Southeast Asian countries, followed by the Philippines (No 10), Indonesia (29), Myanmar (33), Malaysia (90) and Cambodia (101). Laos has not experienced terrorism over the past decade, the report said. While the government played down Thailand's high ranking in terms of terrorism yesterday, opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva expressed concerns that the news would have a negative impact on the country's image. Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said he did not think incidents in the Muslim-majority South could be considered "terrorism" and that it was the media's fault for creating fear among the public. National Security Council secretary-general Lt-General Paradorn Pattanathabutr agreed, saying the degree of violence in the South could not be regarded as "terrorism". Abhisit, however, reiterated that the ranking on the terrorism index was not good for Thailand's image. The GTI systematically ranks and compares 158 countries according to the impact of terrorism, which is measured against four indicators - the number of incidents, deaths, injured and the level of property damage. According to the institute, the 173 violent incidents that took place in the South last year - and left 142 people dead and 427 others injured - could be documented as terrorism. -- The Nation 2012-12-07 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OzMick Posted December 6, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2012 Is this surprising when sitting MPs are charged with terrorism, and were appointed because of their terrorist acts. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcutman Posted December 7, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2012 Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said he did not think incidents in the Muslim-majority South could be considered "terrorism" Gee Chalerm what do you call daily bomb attacks, killing military personell, police, and school teachers ambush style. Another day in paradise? 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Gee whiz!! What would these killings and bombings in the south be, if they weren't terrorism? The only other thing it could be would be a declaration of war? Is Chalerm saying that Thailand has "declared war" on whichever group/groups are responsible for these killings? According to Thai news, at least 7,000 deaths, including 200 teachers have been assassinated or killed in these Malay Pattani states since 2003-4 to present. Thailand is on the global list for number 8 in terror, and it seems that it should rank higher with this many nown deaths and who knows how many unknown and/or unreported? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Gee whiz!! What would these killings and bombings in the south be, if they weren't terrorism? The only other thing it could be would be a declaration of war? Is Chalerm saying that Thailand has "declared war" on whichever group/groups are responsible for these killings? According to Thai news, at least 7,000 deaths, including 200 teachers have been assassinated or killed in these Malay Pattani states since 2003-4 to present. Thailand is on the global list for number 8 in terror, and it seems that it should rank higher with this many nown deaths and who knows how many unknown and/or unreported? The report specifically talks to the Impact of Terrorism. So far the acts of terror have been localised in the Deep South provinces and non Thais have not been declared as targets. Should the conflict spread outside of the Deep South, foreigners targeted and so on, Thailand will move up the list due to the impact on tourism and investment in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeforeTigers Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Maybe it's the media I take in, or my cracker face, but Pattaya still comes across as a more dangerous place for me to walk around at night. Then again, I've never had a Thai person so much as look at me crossly. All of this stuff gets filtered through local media before it reaches my ears. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 thats what we call a slap in the face .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Maybe it's the media I take in, or my cracker face, but Pattaya still comes across as a more dangerous place for me to walk around at night. Then again, I've never had a Thai person so much as look at me crossly. All of this stuff gets filtered through local media before it reaches my ears. Interesting. If you really believe pattaya is dangerous at night, I suggest you take a midnight walk in NYC or London . Going on 13th year and never ever ever had a problem in pattaya anywhere-beach,dark soi's or out in Thai area's. Saying that the OP is about terrorism and while we do not hear much about the south, terror attacks happen daily even sometimes in schools and hospitals . Government should acknowledge the fact and speak on how they tackle it instead of denying . Is it bad for Thailand image? Sure it is But majority do not go to south so majority could not care less 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 National Security Council secretary-general Lt-General Paradorn Pattanathabutr agreed, saying the degree of violence in the South could not be regarded as "terrorism". what we have here is a failure to communicate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Is this surprising when sitting MPs are charged with terrorism, and were appointed because of their terrorist acts. Because of or in spite of..... either or doesn't do anything for the countries image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said he did not think incidents in the Muslim-majority South could be considered "terrorism" Gee Chalerm what do you call daily bomb attacks, killing military personell, police, and school teachers ambush style. Another day in paradise? I'm sure the TAT will put a positive spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hellodolly Posted December 7, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2012 It is my understanding that Thailand has had more killings caused by terrorism than any other country in the world. Politacians can call it waht they want but it is just a sign of there inability to understand the problem. Thereby not know how to deal with it. I guess that is why they are in politics not smart enough to get a real job. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJohnson Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Only a matter of time before the Islamists export this little feud further afield. When that happens the government will have to act. More paper dove drops perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Be scared. The last time Chalerm said there were no terrorist here a bunch of Iranians armed with bombs hit the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post carra Posted December 7, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2012 Abhisit was quick to label protesters as terrorists and now he is complaining about the terrorism ranking, it's caused partly by you giving undeserved labels to people in an attempt to excuse the murders by the army and try to justify your orders. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangTalk Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Chalerm is spot on. It's a Civil War going on in the South, not merely terrorist acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangTalk Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Only a matter of time before the Islamists export this little feud further afield. When that happens the government will have to act. More paper dove drops perhaps? They are not 'Islamists' they are separatists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Only a matter of time before the Islamists export this little feud further afield. When that happens the government will have to act. More paper dove drops perhaps? They are not 'Islamists' they are separatists. Or maybe Islamic separatists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Abhisit was quick to label protesters as terrorists and now he is complaining about the terrorism ranking, it's caused partly by you giving undeserved labels to people in an attempt to excuse the murders by the army and try to justify your orders. You sir, are obsessed. Abhisit, however, reiterated that the ranking on the terrorism index was not good for Thailand's image. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJohnson Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Only a matter of time before the Islamists export this little feud further afield. When that happens the government will have to act. More paper dove drops perhaps? They are not 'Islamists' they are separatists. Or maybe Islamic separatists Oh many thanks for the clarification. Quite right. Islamic separatists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldthaihand99 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The report specifically talks to the Impact of Terrorism. So far the acts of terror have been localised in the Deep South provinces and non Thais have not been declared as targets. Should the conflict spread outside of the Deep South, foreigners targeted and so on, Thailand will move up the list due to the impact on tourism and investment in Thailand. I seem to recall bombings in Bangkok. How should they be described? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It is my understanding that Thailand has had more killings caused by terrorism than any other country in the world. Politacians can call it waht they want but it is just a sign of there inability to understand the problem. Thereby not know how to deal with it. I guess that is why they are in politics not smart enough to get a real job. This is not correct, number of killings in the last year were Iraq 1,798 killed, then Pakistan 1,468 killed, next Afghanistan 1,293 killed and so on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The forgotten war as some so rightly call it, In the restive south , I'm afraid is here to stay, regardless what is said , what is done and what is agreed upon,end of story, going on past results ,Thailand will still be in this privileged position in fifty years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) The report specifically talks to the Impact of Terrorism. So far the acts of terror have been localised in the Deep South provinces and non Thais have not been declared as targets. Should the conflict spread outside of the Deep South, foreigners targeted and so on, Thailand will move up the list due to the impact on tourism and investment in Thailand. I seem to recall bombings in Bangkok. How should they be described? Do not know what specific incident/s you are referring, so I assume acts of Thai on Thai political terrorism with minimal loss of life (if any) and property from use of explosives and not connected to the conflict in the Deep South. You may be referring to the one incident with the Iranians and that was an own goal. Not exactly something that would influence an upgrade on Thailand's terrorism grading Edited December 7, 2012 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said he did not think incidents in the Muslim-majority South could be considered "terrorism" Gee Chalerm what do you call daily bomb attacks, killing military personell, police, and school teachers ambush style. Another day in paradise? When looking at those he associates with, and members of his family, is it really so surprising that he sees nothing wrong with daily bombings, and the killing of military and police? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotto Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 The new "HUB" for terrorism another one Thailand will be happy with? I hope not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I can"t think why I dont want to go to the south, perhaps because they only sell single tickets on the train, do you get better odds than on the Titantic I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carra Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Abhisit was quick to label protesters as terrorists and now he is complaining about the terrorism ranking, it's caused partly by you giving undeserved labels to people in an attempt to excuse the murders by the army and try to justify your orders. You sir, are obsessed. Abhisit, however, reiterated that the ranking on the terrorism index was not good for Thailand's image. What a shame he didn't think about that when he started labeling protestors as terrorists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted December 7, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said he did not think incidents in the Muslim-majority South could be considered "terrorism" Gee Chalerm what do you call daily bomb attacks, killing military personell, police, and school teachers ambush style. Another day in paradise? Well, in consideration of Thailand's recent affirmative vote on recognition for a Palestinian state, I would say, his position is consistent with government policy. These are not terrorists, but people asserting a desire to regain their independent national status. This terrorism commotion will go away once Thailand accepts that the annexation of the Malaya sultanate is a crime against humanity. The colonization of the region by ethnic Thais must be stopped, and the Thais expelled. The native peoples must be set free from the yoke of tyranny. (Al Jazeera , provides me with such inspiration, don't you think? ) Edited December 7, 2012 by geriatrickid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pisico Posted December 7, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2012 Abhisit was quick to label protesters as terrorists and now he is complaining about the terrorism ranking, it's caused partly by you giving undeserved labels to people in an attempt to excuse the murders by the army and try to justify your orders. "...opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva expressed concerns that the news would have a negative impact on the country's image." A Thai career politician typical response. What matters is IMAGE. Thais are self absorbed in their Thainess i.e. getting into elevators or buses they block your exit way to first get in; they drive a "motorci" or a car and they first drive on and second they check if there any traffic coming their way. Same behavior applies to supermarkets where men and women alike roll their carts forward while peering to the side. "Motorcis" on pedestrian sidewalks: what's wrong with that? Feeding soi dogs as an act to make merit but... cleaning the droppings, well let the sun and flies take care of that. Corruption? What corruption? It's normal to give bribe to policeman to take care of phoney or real infractions: it's Thai way. Want to be promoted? Forget about qualifications: just pay your higher up the required amount... But, after all that is reviewed and/or rebutted the final conclusion in their minds is that Thais can do no wrong. Thai culture better than Farang culture. Thai good, Farang bad: cannot be trusted... Suthep once publicly said. He simply articulated the sentiment hidden in most Thais psyche. I would not single out Abhisit at all in this case: it is his Thainess the one speaking for him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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