This is another example of the impotent left trying to hard to find evidence of a crime that never occurred.

If that was true it would be hard to post pictures about it.

"SPIEGEL has just released another one of its famous hate-America covers. They really can't help themselves. There is an enormous demand for anti-American innuendo in Germany that is simply too lucrative to pass up. The latest edition is a cynical masterpiece:"

"It was not Germany or the UN but the United States that ended the killing in the Balkans. And while SPIEGEL lectures us on "America's Disgrace," the German government is out actively promoting business ties and trade fairs with the Sudanese government as the slaughter in Darfur continues..."

Read the whole thing.

The German government promoting trade fairs with Sudan shouldn't prevent the 'Spiegel' from having a cover story about Abu-Graib. 2 different stories, n'est pas?

Btw, nice pick of a very informative, neutral website, Boon Mee, with phrases such as this marble:

"... And then, in an effort to relativize its own shameful history and diplomatic impotency, German media publications like SPIEGEL pump the numb, jaded audience full of the vile America hate to which so many have become emotionally addicted."

Well, the German Government is rather careful. Some people might call it diplomatic. The press, however, still is free and can publish facts. Up to the readers to find out what is fact and what is fiction.

Btw, nice pick of a very informative, neutral website, Boon Mee, with phrases such as this marble:

"... And then, in an effort to relativize its own shameful history and diplomatic impotency, German media publications like SPIEGEL pump the numb, jaded audience full of the vile America hate to which so many have become emotionally addicted."

Well, it's true ain't it?

To start with, it's highly charged emotive language, void of reasoning and substanciating, merely inciting.

But I suspect you are spending too much time reading neocon blogs and rightwing propaganda sites to even notice this much.

But I suspect you are spending too much time reading neocon blogs and rightwing propaganda sites to even notice this much.

In other words, only Michael Moore knows the real truth.

<snip>The press, however, still is free and can publish facts. Up to the readers to find out what is fact and what is fiction.

So you are saying that most of the mass media isn't controlled by a certain ethnic group from the middle east ??? How much does the US bank-roll them ? And I am not talking about Egypt.

Do you think so?

The onus is on you to provide some evidence that 'the mass media is controlled by a certain ethnic group from the middle east', Khutan.

The onus is on you to provide some evidence that 'the mass media is controlled by a certain ethnic group from the middle east', Khutan.

Why, because you say so

Maybe you should learn to use the "Quote" function.

No need to be condescending. You don't know the extremely slow connection I am on. I missed the 'edit' timeline more than once.

Why, because you say so blink.gif

No, not at all. Use your common sense and what you learned about debates in school.

Is it an accepted statement/fact that "the mass media is controlled by a certain ethnic group from the middle east"?

No?

Ahh...., anything you can show us to back up/substantiate your preposition?

Shouldn't be so difficult, just point out "How much does the US bank-roll them"(as a representative of 'a certain ethnic group', am I right?).

Links? Or is it a secret conspiracy?

I am curious to learn how and why the US finance a front-page feature about Abu-Graib in Germany.

Obviously on your ever so slow connection, you don't have an opportunity to use Google or a similar search engine.

<snip>"How much does the US bank-roll them"(as a representative of 'a certain ethnic group', am I right?).

US foreign aid to Israel, Constitutes 30% of the total US foreign aid budget, which renders Israel to be the largest recipient of US aid in the world

Since 1987, the US congress has annually been approving a foreign aid bill totaling an average of $3 billion of American taxpayers' money to Israel, $1.2 billion in economical aid, and $1.8 billion in military aid.

After the gulf war in 1991, the US has additionally been offering Israel $2 billion annually in federal loan guarantees, which brings the total US foreign aid to Israel to about $5 billion, or $13.7 million per day.

Other forms of aid to Israel are a result of "consequential" aid, such as the approximate $1.5 billion in total tax-deductible private donations from numerous Jewish charities and individual donors. "Consequential" aid to Israel adds up to an approximate $8 billion in total US foreign aid to Israel.

All in all, this is the largest amount of foreign aid given to a country, and constitutes over 30% of the total amount of US foreign aid budget.

I find it amazing that the US bankrolls a country to that extent, particularly with such a high GDP.

Possibly also this table at the Jewish Virtual Library will give more details, should you wish to rebuff my comment, once again with hyperbole.

As for the second opinion about control or influence over the media, maybe you could use a search engine as there is far too much to transcribe here. This link may help Google

Obviously on your ever so slow connection, you don't have an opportunity to use Google or a similar search engine.

<snip>"How much does the US bank-roll them"(as a representative of 'a certain ethnic group', am I right?).

US foreign aid to Israel, Constitutes 30% of the total US foreign aid budget, which renders Israel to be the largest recipient of US aid in the world

Since 1987, the US congress has annually been approving a foreign aid bill totaling an average of $3 billion of American taxpayers' money to Israel, $1.2 billion in economical aid, and $1.8 billion in military aid.

After the gulf war in 1991, the US has additionally been offering Israel $2 billion annually in federal loan guarantees, which brings the total US foreign aid to Israel to about $5 billion, or $13.7 million per day.

Other forms of aid to Israel are a result of "consequential" aid, such as the approximate $1.5 billion in total tax-deductible private donations from numerous Jewish charities and individual donors. "Consequential" aid to Israel adds up to an approximate $8 billion in total US foreign aid to Israel.

All in all, this is the largest amount of foreign aid given to a country, and constitutes over 30% of the total amount of US foreign aid budget.

I find it amazing that the US bankrolls a country to that extent, particularly with such a high GDP.

Possibly also this table at the Jewish Virtual Library will give more details, should you wish to rebuff my comment, once again with hyperbole.

As for the second opinion about control or influence over the media, maybe you could use a search engine as there is far too much to transcribe here. This link may help Google

I'm thick.Please can you explain how the "mass media" are influenced.

I'm thick.Please can you explain how the "mass media" are influenced.

Me too.

Think he's on about the Jewish Media Cabal that's been rumored for decades to control the 'media'

Interesting...didn't know 'ol Rupert was a Jooooo.

I'm thick.Please can you explain how the "mass media" are influenced.

Me too.

Think he's on about the Jewish Media Cabal that's been rumored for decades to control the 'media'

Interesting...didn't know 'ol Rupert was a Jooooo.

They control and the elements nature too.

Obviously on your ever so slow connection, you don't have an opportunity to use Google or a similar search engine.

<snip>"How much does the US bank-roll them"(as a representative of 'a certain ethnic group', am I right?).

US foreign aid to Israel, Constitutes 30% of the total US foreign aid budget, which renders Israel to be the largest recipient of US aid in the world

I wrongly assumed you referred to the media when claiming the US bank-roll 'them'.

And: ahh, the mysteriously hinted at "ethnic group" pointed at is Israel.

As for the second opinion about control or influence over the media, maybe you could use a search engine as there is far too much to transcribe here. This link may help Google

I didn't think I'd have anything in common with Boon Mee, but here it is:

I am a bit 'thick', too.

Could you kindly suggest which words I should type into the search box?

Or, better still, summarise your findings in a brief comment?

Here my question again:

I am curious to learn how and why the US finance a front-page feature about Abu-Graib in Germany

...or, if this is more relevant to what you mean to suggest:

How and why does Israel finance a front-page feature about Abu-Graib in Germany?

And how does this relate to the US bank-rolling them?

I am a bit 'thick', too.

You may well be proving this opinion of yourself.

Der Spiegel is published where & by whom?

You claimed to be as 'thick' as some others a few posts ago.

Perhaps you could share the insights you've had since then?

Specially since Khutan seems unable or unwilling to enlighten us further.