Reds In Bid To Foil Democrat Rally

[dominique355]

Looks like Thailand's next president will be Hugo Chavez.

Look at his tactics:

- shout louder than those with a different opinion

- get rid of Courts

- install government paid shops with supplies for the "poor" until they depend on it

- establish a dictatorship of the majority in parliament

- sue in court anyone who dares to speak up

- run the only profit-making economy of the country by government interventions until it is ruined

Doesn't look good for Thailand's future. But maybe someone in Dubai gets cancer (all of course done by the CIA).

[473geo]

Wasn't there a policy implemented by DPM, Minister for everything Chalerm recently, that if one party booked a venue then opposition had to stay a certain distance away and not impede?

Perhaps that was only in Bangkok. Or perhaps it's only a one way street.

I believe that policy only holds true for red shirt demonstrations.

For others the policy is to get a policeman for every protestor and try to block of the protest site.

At least with that policy they double the size of the audience.

Of course I imagine the BIB assigned to keep the protest violence free unless they are the ones committing it are pre approved by the Red Shirts. Maybe even Jatuporn himself.

It strikes me that more and more defending the red shirts is becoming a matter of yelling lying and denial. Absulutly no evidenced to back up any thing they say.

I don't remember was there a maximum level of intelligence you could have to qualify for red shirt school on Democracy.

Say some thing like if you got out of the third grade after three years in it you were to over qualified for their school.

You know hellodolly it would be very enlightening to know just exactly what is the corriculum of these red schools that K Thida supposedly set up. If anyone on this forum knows this please respond. I am not saying this to cast aspersions at the reds, I would really like to know.

I would like to know also.

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Edited March 10, 2013 by 473geo

[Theoutsider]

Looks like Thailand's next president will be Hugo Chavez.

Look at his tactics:

- shout louder than those with a different opinion

- get rid of Courts

- install government paid shops with supplies for the "poor" until they depend on it

- establish a dictatorship of the majority in parliament

- sue in court anyone who dares to speak up

- run the only profit-making economy of the country by government interventions until it is ruined

Doesn't look good for Thailand's future. But maybe someone in Dubai gets cancer (all of course done by the CIA).

One small problem with

that theory

Hugo is dead

unless he is Buddhist

then he might be reincarnated

[OzMick]

Looks like Thailand's next president will be Hugo Chavez.

Look at his tactics:

- shout louder than those with a different opinion

- get rid of Courts

- install government paid shops with supplies for the "poor" until they depend on it

- establish a dictatorship of the majority in parliament

- sue in court anyone who dares to speak up

- run the only profit-making economy of the country by government interventions until it is ruined

Doesn't look good for Thailand's future. But maybe someone in Dubai gets cancer (all of course done by the CIA).

He is dead.

[Pimay1]

Quotes got me again.

Pimay1: You know hellodolly it would be very enlightening to know just exactly what is the corriculum of these red schools that K Thida supposedly set up. If anyone on this forum knows this please respond. I am not saying this to cast aspersions at the reds, I would really like to know.

scorecard: I would like to know also.

473geo: Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Pimay1: The responses are based on the past and current actions of the red thugs as instructed by their leaders. Surely, surely you know that their actions do no match their rhetoric about wanting to establish democracy. Actions speak louder than words. Anyone that disagrees with them results in their hatred and violent response all directed by their leaders. Sheep lead to the slaughter. How can you in good conscience defend the actions of these people? As I have posted before more than once, the poor people who make up the masses of the red shirts are totally mislead into believing their leaders have their best interest at heart. Pied piper in our time.

Edited March 10, 2013 by Pimay1

[473geo]

The electorate voted for change, they are entitled to experience an alternative, all good for the learning curve of the Thai electorate, come the next election we will surely see if these claims of intimidation are so widespread they reap their just reward. I seem to recall the red shirts attributed the label terrorists before they entered Bangkok in 2010, perhaps when the Democrats choose to use a north east venue they should take into account the possibility of their past indiscretions catching up with them. But bullying is a no no in my book let the democrats have their say in the rural areas.

[khunken]

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Shouting down what you nothing about is no different to defending what you nothing about.

It's hardly surprising that posters are criticising the attempt to stop a rally. This is the main reason that the Dems cannot make any inroads in Isan - they are not allowed to do so. Plus there are multiple cases of the same sort of red shirt 'democracy', some a lot worse that this one.

[473geo]

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Shouting down what you nothing about is no different to defending what you nothing about.

It's hardly surprising that posters are criticising the attempt to stop a rally. This is the main reason that the Dems cannot make any inroads in Isan - they are not allowed to do so. Plus there are multiple cases of the same sort of red shirt 'democracy', some a lot worse that this one.

I think you will find the democrats made inroads into Issan and were prepared to enter into conflict with the locals who tried to prevent them agitating the cambodian troops on the border.....not very bright if you wish to gain the respect of the Issan electorate

Edited March 10, 2013 by 473geo

[Robby nz]

I think you will find the democrats made inroads into Issan and were prepared to enter into conflict with the locals who tried to prevent them agitating the cambodian troops on the border.....not very bright if you wish to gain the respect of the Issan electorate

Here we go again another red supporter trying to change the subject when there can be no excuse for the reds behavior

And without it must be said a shred of evidence that it was Thailand who started the fight and not Cambodia.

[chainarong]

Come on red defenders, let's hear from your side please. So far this is a very one sided discussion for some reason.

Pimay1, Perhaps most good folk on ThaiVisa are from good democratic countries and know the score

[monkeycountry]

Look at the bright side guys (not girls).

1. The red shirts force the PTP government to borrow alot of money year after year to finance the rice scam and other scams.
2. Eventually the country will no longer be able to borrow money, it will be forced to stop all the populist policies and the artificial income will automatically stop for most red shirts.
3. By then they will be used to a slightly higher standard of living, and want to keep it up.

4. Thousands of cute Isaan girls will flock to Bangkok and Pattaya to make sure their parents can continue to pay off the car loan etc.
5. I, and perhaps some of you guys, will be sitting waiting in Bangkok or Pattaya, making sure the girls do not take the trip in vain.

The beauty of it all is that the harder the red shirts fight and the more the PTP borrows, the sooner the above will come true. It is like waiting for x-mas, except the date is not yet certain :-D

[hellodolly]

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Shouting down what you nothing about is no different to defending what you nothing about.

It's hardly surprising that posters are criticising the attempt to stop a rally. This is the main reason that the Dems cannot make any inroads in Isan - they are not allowed to do so. Plus there are multiple cases of the same sort of red shirt 'democracy', some a lot worse that this one.

I think you will find the democrats made inroads into Issan and were prepared to enter into conflict with the locals who tried to prevent them agitating the cambodian troops on the border.....not very bright if you wish to gain the respect of the Issan electorate

Time is not my friend here. I thought the Dems had won a by election some where in Issan. Can't remember.

[hellodolly]

Come on red defenders, let's hear from your side please. So far this is a very one sided discussion for some reason.

Pimay1, Perhaps most good folk on ThaiVisa are from good democratic countries and know the score

You are absolutely correct.

How ever the key word was "most" you did not say all. And even some of the ones who know the score choose to differ just for the fun of it.

[473geo]

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Shouting down what you nothing about is no different to defending what you nothing about.

It's hardly surprising that posters are criticising the attempt to stop a rally. This is the main reason that the Dems cannot make any inroads in Isan - they are not allowed to do so. Plus there are multiple cases of the same sort of red shirt 'democracy', some a lot worse that this one.

I think you will find the democrats made inroads into Issan and were prepared to enter into conflict with the locals who tried to prevent them agitating the cambodian troops on the border.....not very bright if you wish to gain the respect of the Issan electorate

Time is not my friend here. I thought the Dems had won a by election some where in Issan. Can't remember.

I believe you are correct dolly, Ken appears to think this was not acceptable as making an inroad into Issan as "they are not allowed to do so"

[473geo]

Come on red defenders, let's hear from your side please. So far this is a very one sided discussion for some reason.

Pimay1, Perhaps most good folk on ThaiVisa are from good democratic countries and know the score

You are absolutely correct.

How ever the key word was "most" you did not say all. And even some of the ones who know the score choose to differ just for the fun of it.

Those that know the score apprecaite that private fortunes and corporate money carry more influence than politicians....and thus tend to give all the political posturing little less respect

Edited March 10, 2013 by 473geo

[rubl]

In Bangkok, a 76-year-old woman yesterday filed a complaint at the Democrat Party headquarters claiming a journal of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration had doctored and published her picture.

The woman, Chitawan Putthikasetrin, was accompanied by a group of red shirts called Young United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship yesterday.

Why would the lady file a complaint at the Dems party HQ? Shouldn't she complain with the BMA or maybe the Ombudsman ? Maybe she forgot that the Democrats candidate MR Sukhumbhant had resigned as BKK governor begin of January. One of the reasons for resigning was just cases like this, where BMA activity is misinterpreted as Democrats or even former governor / new candidate activity.

[Pimay1]

geo are you ignoring me? Can you please respond with your thoughts?

Quotes got me again.

Pimay1: You know hellodolly it would be very enlightening to know just exactly what is the corriculum of these red schools that K Thida supposedly set up. If anyone on this forum knows this please respond. I am not saying this to cast aspersions at the reds, I would really like to know.

scorecard: I would like to know also.

473geo: Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Pimay1: The responses are based on the past and current actions of the red thugs as instructed by their leaders. Surely, surely you know that their actions do no match their rhetoric about wanting to establish democracy. Actions speak louder than words. Anyone that disagrees with them results in their hatred and violent response all directed by their leaders. Sheep lead to the slaughter. How can you in good conscience defend the actions of these people? As I have posted before more than once, the poor people who make up the masses of the red shirts are totally mislead into believing their leaders have their best interest at heart. Pied piper in our time.

Edited March 10, 2013 by Pimay1

[LuckyLew]

This is why Thailand will always be a 3rd world country

Always developing ... but never becoming

[MAJIC]

Don't you just love the freedom of speech policy of these red thugs?

Breathless Hypocracy,from Morons!

[rubl]

To all: think positive!

There is progress! At least this time the peaceful red-shirt democracy lovers didn't throw things at the Democrats or damage cars or so. At least, not that I know :-)

[monkeycountry]

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Shouting down what you nothing about is no different to defending what you nothing about.

It's hardly surprising that posters are criticising the attempt to stop a rally. This is the main reason that the Dems cannot make any inroads in Isan - they are not allowed to do so. Plus there are multiple cases of the same sort of red shirt 'democracy', some a lot worse that this one.

I think you will find the democrats made inroads into Issan and were prepared to enter into conflict with the locals who tried to prevent them agitating the cambodian troops on the border.....not very bright if you wish to gain the respect of the Issan electorate

Please look at a map and explain how a rally in Khon Kaen affects locals at the Cambodian border and/or cambodian troops stationed at the border?

[473geo]

geo are you ignoring me? Can you please respond with your thoughts?

Quotes got me again.

Pimay1: You know hellodolly it would be very enlightening to know just exactly what is the corriculum of these red schools that K Thida supposedly set up. If anyone on this forum knows this please respond. I am not saying this to cast aspersions at the reds, I would really like to know.

scorecard: I would like to know also.

473geo: Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Pimay1: The responses are based on the past and current actions of the red thugs as instructed by their leaders. Surely, surely you know that their actions do no match their rhetoric about wanting to establish democracy. Actions speak louder than words. Anyone that disagrees with them results in their hatred and violent response all directed by their leaders. Sheep lead to the slaughter. How can you in good conscience defend the actions of these people? As I have posted before more than once, the poor people who make up the masses of the red shirts are totally mislead into believing their leaders have their best interest at heart. Pied piper in our time.

Apologies you feel left out Pimay, I had already deciphered your post and responded directly beneath it earlier

[MAJIC]

Wasn't there a policy implemented by DPM, Minister for everything Chalerm recently, that if one party booked a venue then opposition had to stay a certain distance away and not impede?

Perhaps that was only in Bangkok. Or perhaps it's only a one way street.

I believe that policy only holds true for red shirt demonstrations.

For others the policy is to get a policeman for every protestor and try to block of the protest site.

At least with that policy they double the size of the audience.

Of course I imagine the BIB assigned to keep the protest violence free unless they are the ones committing it are pre approved by the Red Shirts. Maybe even Jatuporn himself.

It strikes me that more and more defending the red shirts is becoming a matter of yelling lying and denial. Absulutly no evidenced to back up any thing they say.

I don't remember was there a maximum level of intelligence you could have to qualify for red shirt school on Democracy.

Say some thing like if you got out of the third grade after three years in it you were to over qualified for their school.

You know hellodolly it would be very enlightening to know just exactly what is the corriculum of these red schools that K Thida supposedly set up. If anyone on this forum knows this please respond. I am not saying this to cast aspersions at the reds, I would really like to know.

I would like to know also.

I bet they don't teach English!

It's all quite scary that red schools are being set up, I wasn't aware of that little gem.

I believe the school song is a version of Prodigy's "fire starter".

Quotes got me again.

Pimay1: You know hellodolly it would be very enlightening to know just exactly what is the corriculum of these red schools that K Thida supposedly set up. If anyone on this forum knows this please respond. I am not saying this to cast aspersions at the reds, I would really like to know.

scorecard: I would like to know also.

473geo: Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Pimay1: The responses are based on the past and current actions of the red thugs as instructed by their leaders. Surely, surely you know that their actions do no match their rhetoric about wanting to establish democracy. Actions speak louder than words. Anyone that disagrees with them results in their hatred and violent response all directed by their leaders. Sheep lead to the slaughter. How can you in good conscience defend the actions of these people? As I have posted before more than once, the poor people who make up the masses of the red shirts are totally mislead into believing their leaders have their best interest at heart. Pied piper in our time.

The Pied Piper for Lemmings!

[473geo]

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Shouting down what you nothing about is no different to defending what you nothing about.

It's hardly surprising that posters are criticising the attempt to stop a rally. This is the main reason that the Dems cannot make any inroads in Isan - they are not allowed to do so. Plus there are multiple cases of the same sort of red shirt 'democracy', some a lot worse that this one.

I think you will find the democrats made inroads into Issan and were prepared to enter into conflict with the locals who tried to prevent them agitating the cambodian troops on the border.....not very bright if you wish to gain the respect of the Issan electorate

Please look at a map and explain how a rally in Khon Kaen affects locals at the Cambodian border and/or cambodian troops stationed at the border?

Apologies for the confusion, this was an earlier inroad into Issan which I pointed out as Ken decided it couldn't happen, most will recall the incident to which I refer

[khunken]

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Shouting down what you nothing about is no different to defending what you nothing about.

It's hardly surprising that posters are criticising the attempt to stop a rally. This is the main reason that the Dems cannot make any inroads in Isan - they are not allowed to do so. Plus there are multiple cases of the same sort of red shirt 'democracy', some a lot worse that this one.

I think you will find the democrats made inroads into Issan and were prepared to enter into conflict with the locals who tried to prevent them agitating the cambodian troops on the border.....not very bright if you wish to gain the respect of the Issan electorate

Now you are talking about the PAD, which is not 'the Dems'. The only way to gain respect of most of the Isan electorate is to give them money & PTP have done that in various ways (including vote buying) but not in a sustainable way. The old adage 'give them fish.....teach them how to fish....' comes to mind.

[473geo]

Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Shouting down what you nothing about is no different to defending what you nothing about.

It's hardly surprising that posters are criticising the attempt to stop a rally. This is the main reason that the Dems cannot make any inroads in Isan - they are not allowed to do so. Plus there are multiple cases of the same sort of red shirt 'democracy', some a lot worse that this one.

I think you will find the democrats made inroads into Issan and were prepared to enter into conflict with the locals who tried to prevent them agitating the cambodian troops on the border.....not very bright if you wish to gain the respect of the Issan electorate

Now you are talking about the PAD, which is not 'the Dems'. The only way to gain respect of most of the Isan electorate is to give them money & PTP have done that in various ways (including vote buying) but not in a sustainable way. The old adage 'give them fish.....teach them how to fish....' comes to mind.

They can fish already.........I think "Keep them stupid keep them poor" comes to mind and any factions that have perpetuated this have been sussed as Issan develops

[khunken]

Apologies for the confusion, this was an earlier inroad into Issan which I pointed out as Ken decided it couldn't happen, most will recall the incident to which I refer

That's ok, twist my post if it makes you happy. One example of the Dems winning a seat in Issan is not an inroad into the whole area. I've no idea which incident you are referring to - was it the Dems or the PAD?

[Pimay1]

geo are you ignoring me? Can you please respond with your thoughts?

Quotes got me again.

Pimay1: You know hellodolly it would be very enlightening to know just exactly what is the corriculum of these red schools that K Thida supposedly set up. If anyone on this forum knows this please respond. I am not saying this to cast aspersions at the reds, I would really like to know.

scorecard: I would like to know also.

473geo: Valid question gentlemen, it would be interesting to learn how the curriculum aligns with the average Thai education facility. What a pity the responses you garnered appear to be from those who have no idea, but wish to shout down something they know nothing about, little better than those mentioned on this thread they seek to criticise it would appear. Not to worry, if the schools are so prominent and carry such high influence I'm sure there will somebody who has more informative input along shortly

Pimay1: The responses are based on the past and current actions of the red thugs as instructed by their leaders. Surely, surely you know that their actions do no match their rhetoric about wanting to establish democracy. Actions speak louder than words. Anyone that disagrees with them results in their hatred and violent response all directed by their leaders. Sheep lead to the slaughter. How can you in good conscience defend the actions of these people? As I have posted before more than once, the poor people who make up the masses of the red shirts are totally mislead into believing their leaders have their best interest at heart. Pied piper in our time.

Apologies you feel left out Pimay, I had already deciphered your post and responded directly beneath it earlier

Excuse me for being so inconsiderate. I just went back and read the post you are referring to. I didn't realize it was a response to my post and still don't but I suppose our thought patterns don't match. Anyhow thank you for responding.

[Lingba]

Red, Yellow, Green, Blue....whatever and who cares....they are all a bunch of idiots, stupidly being led by the nose by some greedy and bigger idiot they elected to brainwash them into thinking their color was better than the others....and its not only here...it goes on in every country

[khunken]

They can fish already.........I think "Keep them stupid keep them poor" comes to mind and any factions that have perpetuated this have been sussed as Issan develops

Don't feign ignorance of an adage. I do agree with you that 'keep them stupid & poor' is the Thaksin way of using them for his own ends. Apart from subsidised crops & products, what development has Isan gained? Not a lot & it is so much easier to have a paid group brainwash them (& pay them) to vote for you, which is what it's all about - votes not development.