March 10, 200620 yr I was just wondering how folks would define a patriot. Or perhaps, if patriotism was a good thing or a bad thing? This is quite a difficult problem for me, having feet, soul and children living in four different countries. Although I do find I am more inclined to agree with Edward Abbey*: "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government" *American writer whose works, set primarily in the southwestern United States, reflect an uncompromising environmentalist philosophy. 1927-1989
March 11, 200620 yr Patriots in these days and age are government lackeys, and in some case just plain traitors.
March 11, 200620 yr I would say patriotism has slowly lost it's way in the US since the 18th century. It's an embarrasement to have something called the "Partriot bill" when it has little to do with patriotism. Why don't they just call it as it is, anti-terrorism/anti-privacy bill. "(a) Short Title.--This Act may be cited as the ``Uniting and Strengthening America Act by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT) Act of 2001''. Source: Patriot Bill "Beware the leader who beats the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils and hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." - Julius Caesar
March 11, 200620 yr the majority who claim to be are hypocritical , racist bags of piss and wind. xenophobia seems to be the main ingredient of what people think comprises patriotism.
March 11, 200620 yr Bag of <deleted>, simple as that. That is the start, middle and end of this boring load of poo. Too disinterested to read this absolute load of shit, that is it. Goodnight you boring lot.
March 11, 200620 yr As it's been said before, the only reason a person is patriotic to a particular country is because that's where he/she was born. Being an expat my entire life I realized there exists an even greater patriotism; one towards humanity.
March 11, 200620 yr Bag of <deleted>, simple as that. That is the start, middle and end of this boring load of poo.Too disinterested to read this absolute load of shit, that is it. Goodnight you boring lot. Don't let the door hit you in the ass! Liberals like to think of themselves as Patriots - ha! How To Tell If You're A Liberal
March 11, 200620 yr Bag of <deleted>, simple as that. That is the start, middle and end of this boring load of poo. Too disinterested to read this absolute load of shit, that is it. Goodnight you boring lot. Don't let the door hit you in the ass! Liberals like to think of themselves as Patriots - ha! How To Tell If You're A Liberal Now that's the best likeness of GWB i've seen in a while.Is he looking for his brain or where he hid the Cocaine?
March 11, 200620 yr Bag of <deleted>, simple as that. That is the start, middle and end of this boring load of poo. Too disinterested to read this absolute load of shit, that is it. Goodnight you boring lot. Don't let the door hit you in the ass! Liberals like to think of themselves as Patriots - ha! How To Tell If You're A Liberal Now that's the best likeness of GWB i've seen in a while.Is he looking for his brain or where he hid the Cocaine? Actually, that is Al Gore looking for the missing ballots!
March 11, 200620 yr Although I do find I am more inclined to agree with Edward Abbey*:"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government" I agree. A patriot doesn't just salute the flag, a patriot stands up for what he or she believes is best for their country regardless of whether it is politicaly correct, or popular with his/her political affiliation. There's too many wannabe patriots who take their marching orders from political pundits, and put partisanship over whats best for their country. cv
March 12, 200620 yr the majority who claim to be are hypocritical , racist bags of piss and wind.xenophobia seems to be the main ingredient of what people think comprises patriotism. I think most "patriots" are actually "nationalists" Nationalists are dangerous. Patriot is more politically correct way to say it for a "nationalist", but that's not what they are
March 12, 200620 yr A patriot doesn't just salute the flag, a patriot stands up for what he or she believes is best for their country regardless of whether it is politicaly correct, or popular with his/her political affiliation.cv Too many people think that Boon Mee is "the opposite of Butterfly" - that he just brings up politics to have something to fight about. He truly loves and believes in the USA and it hurts him when people bash it. He studies and thinks about issues and trys to change things for the better. Boon Mee is no troll. He is a patriot in the best sense of the word and whether one agrees with him, or not, we are lucky to have him here!
March 12, 200620 yr A patriot doesn't just salute the flag, a patriot stands up for what he or she believes is best for their country regardless of whether it is politicaly correct, or popular with his/her political affiliation. cv Too many people think that Boon Mee is "the opposite of Butterfly" - that he just brings up politics to have something to fight about. He truly loves and believes in the USA and it hurts him when people bash it. He studies and thinks about issues and trys to change things for the better. Boon Mee is no troll. He is a patriot in the best sense of the word and whether one agrees with him, or not, we are lucky to have him here! Excellent post, Ulysses!
March 12, 200620 yr Although I do find I am more inclined to agree with Edward Abbey*: "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government" I agree. A patriot doesn't just salute the flag, a patriot stands up for what he or she believes is best for their country regardless of whether it is politicaly correct, or popular with his/her political affiliation. There's too many wannabe patriots who take their marching orders from political pundits, and put partisanship over whats best for their country. cv The problem is the set of beliefs to which the patriot believes. They can change over time. And that's when things become dangerous.
March 12, 200620 yr Although I do find I am more inclined to agree with Edward Abbey*: "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government" I agree. A patriot doesn't just salute the flag, a patriot stands up for what he or she believes is best for their country regardless of whether it is politicaly correct, or popular with his/her political affiliation. There's too many wannabe patriots who take their marching orders from political pundits, and put partisanship over whats best for their country. cv The problem is the set of beliefs to which the patriot believes. They can change over time. And that's when things become dangerous. No, it's when someone is too stubborn to change or unwilling to listen to new ideas that things become dangerous. Imagine the bloodbath that could have happened in South Africa if people in power had not changed their minds about aparthid? cv A patriot doesn't just salute the flag, a patriot stands up for what he or she believes is best for their country regardless of whether it is politicaly correct, or popular with his/her political affiliation. cv Too many people think that Boon Mee is "the opposite of Butterfly" - that he just brings up politics to have something to fight about. He truly loves and believes in the USA and it hurts him when people bash it. He studies and thinks about issues and trys to change things for the better. Boon Mee is no troll. He is a patriot in the best sense of the word and whether one agrees with him, or not, we are lucky to have him here! Excellent post, Ulysses! This is beginning to look like "Brokeback Bedlam"
March 12, 200619 yr Author Although I do find I am more inclined to agree with Edward Abbey*: "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government" I agree. A patriot doesn't just salute the flag, a patriot stands up for what he or she believes is best for their country regardless of whether it is politicaly correct, or popular with his/her political affiliation. There's too many wannabe patriots who take their marching orders from political pundits, and put partisanship over whats best for their country. cv The problem is the set of beliefs to which the patriot believes. They can change over time. And that's when things become dangerous. No, it's when someone is too stubborn to change or unwilling to listen to new ideas that things become dangerous. Imagine the bloodbath that could have happened in South Africa if people in power had not changed their minds about aparthid? cv A patriot doesn't just salute the flag, a patriot stands up for what he or she believes is best for their country regardless of whether it is politicaly correct, or popular with his/her political affiliation. cv Too many people think that Boon Mee is "the opposite of Butterfly" - that he just brings up politics to have something to fight about. He truly loves and believes in the USA and it hurts him when people bash it. He studies and thinks about issues and trys to change things for the better. Boon Mee is no troll. He is a patriot in the best sense of the word and whether one agrees with him, or not, we are lucky to have him here! Excellent post, Ulysses! This is beginning to look like "Brokeback Bedlam" (just taken the liberty to add a link to clarify a shared opinion)
March 12, 200619 yr (just taken the liberty to add a link to clarify a shared opinion) That's the second time you're referenced those folks, Thomas. Sorta reminds me of the old John Birch Society.
March 12, 200619 yr Author (just taken the liberty to add a link to clarify a shared opinion) That's the second time you're referenced those folks, Thomas. Sorta reminds me of the old John Birch Society. Oh don't worry, you're safe with me - just nice to know you're still reading the old TM now and again. Is the new John Birch Society better than the old one?
March 12, 200619 yr He is a patriot in the best sense of the word and whether one agrees with him, or not, we are lucky to have him here! Don't write 'we' if you mean 'I'.
March 13, 200619 yr This is beginning to look like "Brokeback Bedlam" QUOTE(cdnvic @ 2006-03-08 06:45:48)UlyssesG you can put the homo comments on ice too. cv I take it that "Brokeback Bedlam" is more PC than "Cow-Homo" even though they mean the same thing?
March 13, 200619 yr This is beginning to look like "Brokeback Bedlam" QUOTE(cdnvic @ 2006-03-08 06:45:48)UlyssesG you can put the homo comments on ice too. cv I take it that "Brokeback Bedlam" is more PC than "Cow-Homo" even though they mean the same thing? No it means that the last exchange between you and Boon left us all wondering which one would get up the nerve to ask the other to dance first. cv
March 13, 200619 yr Hope that I'm not stepping on any toes. I'm starting to get the feeling that an awful lot of you fellas admire Boon Mee for more than just his political views.
March 13, 200619 yr Hope that I'm not stepping on any toes.I'm starting to get the feeling that an awful lot of you fellas admire Boon Mee for more than just his political views. I would be worried if 'Steven' and Blondie were to... words escape me!
March 13, 200619 yr Hope that I'm not stepping on any toes. I'm starting to get the feeling that an awful lot of you fellas admire Boon Mee for more than just his political views. words escape me! That has to be a first.
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