Thailand takes the rap in US fake goods review



BANGKOK: -- An American organization has released its annual Top ten countries in a league of nations they accuse of being the major sources of pirated goods.

Thailand, along with Russia and China have been named in the list which overlooks the Internet as the single source of pirated movies, offered for free, and instead takes aim at street vendors in Asian countries.

With a simplistic list of recommendations, the committee produced a simplistic wishlist which asks for an end to the availability of TV streaming on the Internet, other than those issued by the TV companies and a stop to be put on Internet trading of fake goods, among other ideas.

All well and good, perhaps, but as many have pointed out , the US itself fails consistently in both those areas as the Internet still grows and flourishes without any policing.

With other recommendations such as stricter control of Cameras in cinemas, they overlook the fact that most pirated movies are actually copies of original movie files

The somewhat toothless committee, it has no powers but makes a lot of noise, makes annual waves as it reviews production of fake goods in many industries such as software, clothing, movies and fashion accessories, overlooking the fact that its own nations form a large portion of the population that continues to support the cloned market.

Full story: http://www.pattaya103.com/thailand-takes-the-rap-in-us-fake-goods-review/


--Pattaya 103 FM 2013-05-02

The volume of copyrighted material available on the torrent sites (I prefer kickass) is incredible. As I can transfer to my DVD player with a memory stick, who needs to buy dubious quality pirated DVDs?

Edited May 2, 201313 yr by OzMick

The volume of copyrighted material available on the torrent sites (I prefer kickass) is incredible. As I can transfer to my DVD player with a memory stick, who needs to buy dubious quality pirated DVDs?

I await the Thai government to block torrents on the basis that it is putting fake DVD sellers out of business.

The volume of copyrighted material available on the torrent sites (I prefer kickass) is incredible. As I can transfer to my DVD player with a memory stick, who needs to buy dubious quality pirated DVDs?

I await the Thai government to block torrents on the basis that it is putting fake DVD sellers out of business.

I know a bloke who earns serious money in saudi, he walks round in designer T-shirts, jeans, wears rolex watches all the real mcCoy.

It just doesn't look right, he looks like he's spent all his money on Sukhumvit road.

How about those copied textbooks at Thailand's top universities?Then the black and white copies of textbooks are resold to students. What does Webfact think about that? How about the Rolex and Baum Mercier ..watches sold all over Thailand? What dies Web fact think about that? Most movies sold on the street in Thailand are copied from originals and have the language setups as well. Counterfeit handbags and clothes are rampant in Thailand. Counterfeit medicine and designer colognes are abundantly available on the street Thailand is the imitation product capital of the world - blatant and visible all over, especially Bangkok. Illegal software copies and operating systems are readily and easily available at vendors and stalls inside malls all over Bangkok. What does webfact think about that?

Edited May 2, 201313 yr by noitom

who needs to buy dubious quality pirated DVDs?

People who dont have access to the internet spring to mind...

That Rolex picture up top is 1 of the worst examples I have ever seen, whoever wears that rubbish will look a total pratt and have a green wrist to boot. I fail to see how copied Rolex watches effect the real market, totally different customers, people who want quality and will pay for it versus tasteless chavs.

An American organization? which one? What exactly DID they say? From the tone one would think the writer of this produces pirated goods. The entire rant is focused on digital media which I have a feeling is only a part of what the organization in question has problems with. But who knows since there is no source and following the link to pattaya103 to read the "full story" yields even less information along with the notice "Editorial from external source reprinted with approval of the author" while failing to identify the external source or author. The only thing I found "simplistic" was the writer's editorial.

How about those copied textbooks at Thailand's top universities?Then the black and white copies of textbooks are resold to students. What does Webfact think about that? How about the Rolex and Baum Mercier ..watches sold all over Thailand? What dies Web fact think about that? Most movies sold on the street in Thailand are copied from originals and have the language setups as well. Counterfeit handbags and clothes are rampant in Thailand. Counterfeit medicine and designer colognes are abundantly available on the street Thailand is the imitation product capital of the world - blatant and visible all over, especially Bangkok. Illegal software copies and operating systems are readily and easily available at vendors and stalls inside malls all over Bangkok. What does webfact think about that?

"What does Webfact think about that?"

Webfact doesn't think. He (she??) just cuts and pastes.

How about those copied textbooks at Thailand's top universities?Then the black and white copies of textbooks are resold to students. What does Webfact think about that? How about the Rolex and Baum Mercier ..watches sold all over Thailand? What dies Web fact think about that? Most movies sold on the street in Thailand are copied from originals and have the language setups as well. Counterfeit handbags and clothes are rampant in Thailand. Counterfeit medicine and designer colognes are abundantly available on the street Thailand is the imitation product capital of the world - blatant and visible all over, especially Bangkok. Illegal software copies and operating systems are readily and easily available at vendors and stalls inside malls all over Bangkok. What does webfact think about that?

"What does Webfact think about that?"

Webfact doesn't think. He (she??) just cuts and pastes.

He does think as he sorts through a variety of news feeds every to help keep us up to date. Some articles are good, others are not. Just the nature of the beast!!!

Fake goods, organised crime control this market. They have even found fake military aircraft parts. Just think of this next time you fly. It effects all of society!

The volume of copyrighted material available on the torrent sites (I prefer kickass) is incredible. As I can transfer to my DVD player with a memory stick, who needs to buy dubious quality pirated DVDs?

They are very god quality, and offer both english and thai soundtracks. Not so on Torrent files.

10 countries are on the latest Priority Watch List for IP violations: Algeria, Argentina, Chile, China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, Russia, Thailand, and Venezuela.

Today's Bangkok Post has a more detailed news story on this renewed Thailand achievement. I wonder if some govt official will claim Thailand is the Hub of this elite group of countries.

And here is the Link to the Office of U.S. Trade Representative full annual 301 Report....it talks about a bunch of countries in various categories of watch levels...and not just the 10 on the Priority Watch List. Looks like the Ukraine has been especially bad. Below is a cut and paste from the report listing those countries. Thailand is discussed beginning on page 42.

Priority Foreign Country: Ukraine.

Priority Watch List: Algeria, Argentina, Chile, China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, Russia, Thailand, Venezuela.

Watch List: Barbados, Belarus, Bolivia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, Finland, Greece, Guatemala, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Kuwait, Lebanon, Mexico, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Romania, Tajikistan, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Vietnam.

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Edited May 2, 201313 yr by Pib

How about those copied textbooks at Thailand's top universities?Then the black and white copies of textbooks are resold to students. What does Webfact think about that? How about the Rolex and Baum Mercier ..watches sold all over Thailand? What dies Web fact think about that? Most movies sold on the street in Thailand are copied from originals and have the language setups as well. Counterfeit handbags and clothes are rampant in Thailand. Counterfeit medicine and designer colognes are abundantly available on the street Thailand is the imitation product capital of the world - blatant and visible all over, especially Bangkok. Illegal software copies and operating systems are readily and easily available at vendors and stalls inside malls all over Bangkok. What does webfact think about that?

"What does Webfact think about that?"

Webfact doesn't think. He (she??) just cuts and pastes.

He does think as he sorts through a variety of news feeds every to help keep us up to date. Some articles are good, others are not. Just the nature of the beast!!!

"Some articles are good...." That's your opinion, others may well disagree.

".... others are not. ...." That's your opinion, other may well disagree.

Can't please em all all of the time.

The volume of copyrighted material available on the torrent sites (I prefer kickass) is incredible. As I can transfer to my DVD player with a memory stick, who needs to buy dubious quality pirated DVDs?

They are very god quality, and offer both english and thai soundtracks. Not so on Torrent files.

Sorry if I'm affecting business, but there are many, many dodgy versions for sale, and you don't know until you get home. Torrent sites usualy offer a comment facility, and poor downloads are easily avoided.

BTW it seems there is no word in Thai equivalent to "refund" and "I want my money back" is a disgusting insult.

Glad to see Thailand at number 1 - does that mean they have won??

That Rolex picture up top is 1 of the worst examples I have ever seen, whoever wears that rubbish will look a total pratt and have a green wrist to boot. I fail to see how copied Rolex watches effect the real market, totally different customers, people who want quality and will pay for it versus tasteless chavs.

It diminishes the brand value.

Thailand's reputation outside of Thailand is that of a corrupt country and is held in low esteem , it does its self a disservice to continue to year after year to win dubois awards for corruption , scams , copyright law etc, it's time that Thailand woke up and started to improve it;s image abroad and adopt worlds best practise, Then I stopped dreaming.

Glad to see Thailand at number 1 - does that mean they have won??

More garbage, usually bits of metal and plastic from China that was recycled into consumer goods made in China that breaks and falls apart quicker than you can pick up a bar girl on soi cowboy.

Edited May 2, 201313 yr by geriatrickid

People selling knockoffs, fakes, or copies need to make a living too. The creaters of the original products are still making boat-loads of money.

Many people can't afford to purchase the real thing.....it's okay to offer a cheaper version. Knockoffs, fakes, copies...........whatever you want to call it allow low-income people to enjoy what upper class people can easily get.

That Rolex picture up top is 1 of the worst examples I have ever seen, whoever wears that rubbish will look a total pratt and have a green wrist to boot. I fail to see how copied Rolex watches effect the real market, totally different customers, people who want quality and will pay for it versus tasteless chavs.

It diminishes the brand value.

They are still and will always be a top brand. Show me proof that the Rolex brand has been diminished. That corporation still rakes in lots of revenue.

The big companies just need to suck it up.

They expect Asians to work (and die ;-( ) in sweatshops for a bowl of rice a day making goods for the capitalists to sell in the west and get richer. Why do the big companies sell goods at different prices
in different countries? – because they know they can rip off people in some countries more so than others.

Why do they have their products made in cheap labour countries ? - because they can exploit the workers in developing countries.

They get no sympathy from me.

But on the other side of the argument you get what you pay for. A cheap fake watch doesn’t last
long – nor does clothing. And it's hard to get updates for fake software.

People selling knockoffs, fakes, or copies need to make a living too. The creaters of the original products are still making boat-loads of money.

Many people can't afford to purchase the real thing.....it's okay to offer a cheaper version. Knockoffs, fakes, copies...........whatever you want to call it allow low-income people to enjoy what upper class people can easily get.

That is a rather unique view.

Using that logic, the jetski mafias need to make a living, too, as do the drug dealers on Soi 0.

I can't afford a Ferrari, so I doubt I will ever get to "enjoy what upper class people can easily get," but you know, I'm OK with that.

How about those copied textbooks at Thailand's top universities?Then the black and white copies of textbooks are resold to students. What does Webfact think about that? How about the Rolex and Baum Mercier ..watches sold all over Thailand? What dies Web fact think about that? Most movies sold on the street in Thailand are copied from originals and have the language setups as well. Counterfeit handbags and clothes are rampant in Thailand. Counterfeit medicine and designer colognes are abundantly available on the street Thailand is the imitation product capital of the world - blatant and visible all over, especially Bangkok. Illegal software copies and operating systems are readily and easily available at vendors and stalls inside malls all over Bangkok. What does webfact think about that?

Why don't you look up there list on those items and get back to us with the information. Or are you just taking an opportuniy to Bash.

The Boys in Brown need to rush to the scene and have a crackdown. Thailand is a hub of counterfeit goods.

How about those copied textbooks at Thailand's top universities?Then the black and white copies of textbooks are resold to students. What does Webfact think about that? How about the Rolex and Baum Mercier ..watches sold all over Thailand? What dies Web fact think about that? Most movies sold on the street in Thailand are copied from originals and have the language setups as well. Counterfeit handbags and clothes are rampant in Thailand. Counterfeit medicine and designer colognes are abundantly available on the street Thailand is the imitation product capital of the world - blatant and visible all over, especially Bangkok. Illegal software copies and operating systems are readily and easily available at vendors and stalls inside malls all over Bangkok. What does webfact think about that?

"What does Webfact think about that?"

Webfact doesn't think. He (she??) just cuts and pastes.

He does think as he sorts through a variety of news feeds every to help keep us up to date. Some articles are good, others are not. Just the nature of the beast!!!

There are more credible beasts that can be researched but they do not allow it as they fear being looked down on as unreliable because of the company they would be keeping.

People selling knockoffs, fakes, or copies need to make a living too. The creaters of the original products are still making boat-loads of money.

Many people can't afford to purchase the real thing.....it's okay to offer a cheaper version. Knockoffs, fakes, copies...........whatever you want to call it allow low-income people to enjoy what upper class people can easily get.

That is a rather unique view.

Using that logic, the jetski mafias need to make a living, too, as do the drug dealers on Soi 0.

I can't afford a Ferrari, so I doubt I will ever get to "enjoy what upper class people can easily get," but you know, I'm OK with that.

Have you ever heard of generics. Generics are made by the same companies that make the real thing. The jet-ski mafia are breaking the law.....claiming damages made by customers....no comparison there. What do drug dealers have to do with someone selling fake items? There are companies that make knockoff sportscars.

Thailand's reputation outside of Thailand is that of a corrupt country and is held in low esteem , it does its self a disservice to continue to year after year to win dubois awards for corruption , scams , copyright law etc, it's time that Thailand woke up and started to improve it;s image abroad and adopt worlds best practise, Then I stopped dreaming.

And the tourists stopped coming and the number of expats started to decrease.

People selling knockoffs, fakes, or copies need to make a living too. The creaters of the original products are still making boat-loads of money.

Many people can't afford to purchase the real thing.....it's okay to offer a cheaper version. Knockoffs, fakes, copies...........whatever you want to call it allow low-income people to enjoy what upper class people can easily get.

That is a rather unique view.

Using that logic, the jetski mafias need to make a living, too, as do the drug dealers on Soi 0.

I can't afford a Ferrari, so I doubt I will ever get to "enjoy what upper class people can easily get," but you know, I'm OK with that.

Well when you stop and think about it the people making them are just buying them with the same % of there income that the ones who made them in there western countries would pay out of there income.