whybother Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. Whether it was the army that was sent in or the police is pretty irrelevant. In the US, the police are often more heavily armed than army was here, and they will certainly open fire if they are under threat. In Thailand, the police aren't equipped or trained to handle large protests, particularly ones where some of the protesters armed. So it falls to the army to deal with it, not that they're very well trained either. In the US or the UK, if the police were found to have killed someone without sufficient cause, it would be the individual police that would be held accountable, not the PM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. Complete rubbish. The army was sent into N Ireland and just recently were held responsible for the Bloody Sunday killings. Was the UK PM ever indicted? No On numerous occasions the US President has had to send in state troopers & others to control a situation getting out of hand - e.g. looting in New Orleans. Has a President ever been indicted for that? No The army were used in 2010 because the police refused to carry out their duty in controlling all sorts of riots & other incidents. The police were under Thaksin's bidding (& still are). Suthep is the 'Iron Lady' of Thai politics and is not particularly well regarded by either side of politics here. He doesn't have, however, the same control over the police that, say, Chalerm does. Nor has he subverted justice in a murder trial of his offspring. These DSI charges are a joke - only an attempt to tie up the opposition with false charges (many of a petty nature) in order to smooth the way for DL's amnesty. It's not hard to see if you open your eyes & thought process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. There are Buddhist temples in the UK although they aren't usually like the Thai ones and are often just big houses. There is however one temple in Wimbledon, London. Although I've yet to visit it. http://www.buddhapadipa.org/ You've made some reasonable points. I think Abhisit is a good politician but he's held back by many in his party and Suthep seems to be one of them. These charges do seem to e a bit ridiculous and it'll be interesting to see how this all ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. Whether it was the army that was sent in or the police is pretty irrelevant. In the US, the police are often more heavily armed than army was here, and they will certainly open fire if they are under threat. In Thailand, the police aren't equipped or trained to handle large protests, particularly ones where some of the protesters armed. So it falls to the army to deal with it, not that they're very well trained either. In the US or the UK, if the police were found to have killed someone without sufficient cause, it would be the individual police that would be held accountable, not the PM. The police in the US probably have specialist units trained for this type of situation as they do in the UK and many other countries. They would still send in the army if things got really bad but with properly trained police that's a fairly unlikely scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. That's a bit dangerous on this forum, bringing out truth that many prefer unsaid. Well done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. This has all the sharp political commentary and insight of a dead parrott! Just missing the Monty Python music (Libery Bell march I think). The Thai government had to use the army because the police wouldn't do the job they are sworn to do. These were not all innocent peaceful protesters by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. Whether it was the army that was sent in or the police is pretty irrelevant. In the US, the police are often more heavily armed than army was here, and they will certainly open fire if they are under threat. In Thailand, the police aren't equipped or trained to handle large protests, particularly ones where some of the protesters armed. So it falls to the army to deal with it, not that they're very well trained either. In the US or the UK, if the police were found to have killed someone without sufficient cause, it would be the individual police that would be held accountable, not the PM. The police in the US probably have specialist units trained for this type of situation as they do in the UK and many other countries. They would still send in the army if things got really bad but with properly trained police that's a fairly unlikely scenario. Yes - and the police in the UK and US would do the job they swear an oath to do - enforce the law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 What about the execution of 2500 innocent Thai citizens, by the police. It has been stated that the police were ordered by the PM to eliminate drugs. As of now only one death has gone to court and the police were convicted, but released on bail. They're not DSI cases. DSI only deal with the mega important and complex ones. You know like ruthless criminals donating money to political parties through payroll deduction instead of cheques. DSI - Doing Shiniwatra's Instructions. Tarit the Thai J.Edgar Hoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backwoods Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. Complete rubbish. The army was sent into N Ireland and just recently were held responsible for the Bloody Sunday killings. Was the UK PM ever indicted? No On numerous occasions the US President has had to send in state troopers & others to control a situation getting out of hand - e.g. looting in New Orleans. Has a President ever been indicted for that? No The army were used in 2010 because the police refused to carry out their duty in controlling all sorts of riots & other incidents. The police were under Thaksin's bidding (& still are). Suthep is the 'Iron Lady' of Thai politics and is not particularly well regarded by either side of politics here. He doesn't have, however, the same control over the police that, say, Chalerm does. Nor has he subverted justice in a murder trial of his offspring. These DSI charges are a joke - only an attempt to tie up the opposition with false charges (many of a petty nature) in order to smooth the way for DL's amnesty. It's not hard to see if you open your eyes & thought process. US president sent in National Guard and Army troops, he has no control over state troopers or police! I'm wondering if the PM is going to admit being responsible for the floods or the extreme heat? These are just as stupid as the accusations being made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTao Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) Intimidation, I think that one word sums it all up. Edited May 14, 2013 by TomTao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. Complete rubbish. The army was sent into N Ireland and just recently were held responsible for the Bloody Sunday killings. Was the UK PM ever indicted? No On numerous occasions the US President has had to send in state troopers & others to control a situation getting out of hand - e.g. looting in New Orleans. Has a President ever been indicted for that? No The army were used in 2010 because the police refused to carry out their duty in controlling all sorts of riots & other incidents. The police were under Thaksin's bidding (& still are). Suthep is the 'Iron Lady' of Thai politics and is not particularly well regarded by either side of politics here. He doesn't have, however, the same control over the police that, say, Chalerm does. Nor has he subverted justice in a murder trial of his offspring. These DSI charges are a joke - only an attempt to tie up the opposition with false charges (many of a petty nature) in order to smooth the way for DL's amnesty. It's not hard to see if you open your eyes & thought process. US president sent in National Guard and Army troops, he has no control over state troopers or police! I'm wondering if the PM is going to admit being responsible for the floods or the extreme heat? These are just as stupid as the accusations being made! Thanks for the correction. The problem here is that 'truth' to some is actually propaganda usually taken from red shirt or Thaksin mouthpieces who think that constant repetition of lies magically become the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianCR Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 These charges wont stick, they are a simple scare tactic. Its just DSI trying to get these two to accept (and back) the Amnesty deal.No charges will ever stick..... if you have money and a powerful name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 These charges wont stick, they are a simple scare tactic. Its just DSI trying to get these two to accept (and back) the Amnesty deal.No charges will ever stick..... if you have money and a powerful name! Didn't seem to help Thaksin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 At least they are not dragging him in over an alleged extramarital affair as they did to Bill Clinton, wasting lots of time and resources. Looks like a personal vendetta via dubai. Pretty lame charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 keep em coming until every one of them is filed against him TIME TO PAY THE PIPER AV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 It's only a matter of time before they are charged with Seh Daeng's murder. Does Tarit's face ever turn red with embarassment? As they should be EXECUTION IS A CRIME and should be punished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 It's only a matter of time before they are charged with Seh Daeng's murder. Does Tarit's face ever turn red with embarassment? As they should be EXECUTION IS A CRIME and should be punished Who was executed? Sent from my Phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshiwara Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 It's only a matter of time before they are charged with Seh Daeng's murder. Does Tarit's face ever turn red with embarassment? As they should be EXECUTION IS A CRIME and should be punished Unless, for you, carried out by Thaksin presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 UPDATE:DSI files two more charges against Abhisit, SuthepPiyanut TumnukasetchaiThe NationBANGKOK: -- The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) yesterday slapped former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and former deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban with two more charges relating to the 2010 red-shirt crackdowns.Abhisit and Suthep were summoned to hear the charges at the DSI's head office. Suthep was director of the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES) during the 2010 unrest.Tarit Pengdith, director-general of the DSI, said the two were charged with conspiring with others to take actions that could be expected to lead to murder in connection with the killing of a boy, Kunakorn Srisuwan.The other charge was conspiring with others in actions leading to attempted murder in connection with the attack on Samorn Maithong, which left him seriously wounded.Abhisit and Suthep met with DSI investigators for over an hour and then left without giving interviews to reporters.Tarit said the two suspects were cooperating well with investigators and the DSI would wrap up the two probes and send its report to state attorneys within one month for prosecution.Tarit said the boy was killed and the man wounded when troops were deployed by the CRES to disperse the red-shirt protesters three years ago.The DSI was waiting for the Criminal Court to complete its inquests into more deaths during the May 2010 operations before deciding whether to press more charges against the two, he added. -- The Nation 2013-05-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Tarit said the two suspects were cooperating well with investigators and the DSI would wrap up the two probes and send its report to state attorneys within one month for prosecution. So, the decision to prosecute has already been made, and the probe is just a formality then, that's very impartial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. If it had been London or New York, it would never have been allowed to escalate out of control like it did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Word is out that the DSI is talking to Scotland Yard, and that Abhisit will soon face charges for the kidnapping and murder of Lord Lucan and the theft of Shergar. Extradition is not likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Word is out that the DSI is talking to Scotland Yard, and that Abhisit will soon face charges for the kidnapping and murder of Lord Lucan and the theft of Shergar. Extradition is not likely. Shergar was kidnapped by Tesco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekDaeng Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 "The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle." Yeah, but what color police? Naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 At least they showed up for the appointment, unlike some hi-sos that (allegedly) killed someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. That's a bit dangerous on this forum, bringing out truth that many prefer unsaid. Well done. Yes after all ThaiVIsa is an AntiThaksin forum otherwiese ThaiVisa wouldn't join a rubbish newspaper like the Nation. It doesn;t mater what everyone would like to say about the US or the UK, if the president of the US or the PM of the UK pops five the green light to clean the inner city of their capital heads will be rolling. For me it doesn't make the difference who is in charge. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. So lets charge them so the show can go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. If it had been London or New York, it would never have been allowed to escalate out of control like it did. Yes because London and Washington know how to look after the ministries but Khun Suthep had only the backing of the army but not the law enforcement agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. Complete rubbish. The army was sent into N Ireland and just recently were held responsible for the Bloody Sunday killings. Was the UK PM ever indicted? No On numerous occasions the US President has had to send in state troopers & others to control a situation getting out of hand - e.g. looting in New Orleans. Has a President ever been indicted for that? No The army were used in 2010 because the police refused to carry out their duty in controlling all sorts of riots & other incidents. The police were under Thaksin's bidding (& still are). Suthep is the 'Iron Lady' of Thai politics and is not particularly well regarded by either side of politics here. He doesn't have, however, the same control over the police that, say, Chalerm does. Nor has he subverted justice in a murder trial of his offspring. These DSI charges are a joke - only an attempt to tie up the opposition with false charges (many of a petty nature) in order to smooth the way for DL's amnesty. It's not hard to see if you open your eyes & thought process. Suthep is the 'Iron Lady' of Thai politics and is not particularly well regarded by either side of politics here. He doesn't have, however, the same control over the police that, say, Chalerm does. Nor has he subverted justice in a murder trial of his offspring. Suthep is a nobody. Never won elections and when in power takes money under the table. He finances the Democratic Party in Thailand to make money. Iron lady what a rubbish. I wrote the 5 national communications plan for Thailand of which Suthep was the ministry of Communications. If you don't know what Suthep did from 1975 - 1994 better shut up. Again nothing against the Democrat Party of Thailand but the good people are gone but if you can't see it I don't blame you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 These charges wont stick, they are a simple scare tactic. Its just DSI trying to get these two to accept (and back) the Amnesty deal.No charges will ever stick..... if you have money and a powerful name! Didn't seem to help Thaksin. Because he is Chinese Thai. Old rule in Thailand. If you are Chinese Thai don't get involved in politics but just make your money or otherwise run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 If the president of the United States or the PM of the UK would have send in the army to clean up London or New York they would have been removed long time ago from office and impeached, specially if the UK armed forces would have shot on spot some demonstrator that were hiding in some churches (I guess no wats in the UK). The same counts for the violent G8 meetings that happens once in a while. The army should have never send in from the beginning and it was a case for the police to handle. If the police can't handle it the problem bites back to the Thai PM which at the time was Khun Abhisit. I can remember the time when Khun Suthep warned the Thai parliament for a corruption case against him in the 90's that he will send 500,000 people's from the South to block Bangkok. Hmmh - but Suthep is democrat party so it should be ok. Guys this is politics and they are all the same. I remember the years when the brother from Chuan Lekpai was wanted for corruption of 250 million Baht and he fled to Cambodia and Chuan Lekpai said in court his brother is innocent. He fled to Cambodia for 5 years and only returned after his case expired. Mr. Chuan is the clean guy but everyone around him made money. I personally think Abhisit should not be charged as he never was in the driver seat from the beginning to run the government. He just was the face to the internaional community but Khun Suthep has always called the shots since Chuan Lekpai, Surin and Banyat went into the background. I personally like Khun Abhisit but he is a junior in Thai politics and seems to be a bit naive. Complete rubbish. The army was sent into N Ireland and just recently were held responsible for the Bloody Sunday killings. Was the UK PM ever indicted? No On numerous occasions the US President has had to send in state troopers & others to control a situation getting out of hand - e.g. looting in New Orleans. Has a President ever been indicted for that? No The army were used in 2010 because the police refused to carry out their duty in controlling all sorts of riots & other incidents. The police were under Thaksin's bidding (& still are). Suthep is the 'Iron Lady' of Thai politics and is not particularly well regarded by either side of politics here. He doesn't have, however, the same control over the police that, say, Chalerm does. Nor has he subverted justice in a murder trial of his offspring. These DSI charges are a joke - only an attempt to tie up the opposition with false charges (many of a petty nature) in order to smooth the way for DL's amnesty. It's not hard to see if you open your eyes & thought process. US president sent in National Guard and Army troops, he has no control over state troopers or police! I'm wondering if the PM is going to admit being responsible for the floods or the extreme heat? These are just as stupid as the accusations being made! Thanks for the correction. The problem here is that 'truth' to some is actually propaganda usually taken from red shirt or Thaksin mouthpieces who think that constant repetition of lies magically become the truth. THe same is for the yellow shirts. Without the yellow shirts movement Abhisit would have never become PM of Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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