7by7 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Indeed, he followed the ball and when he saw it had been caught his head went back in despair. The reaction of a man who knew he had hit it. Have you ACTUALLY watched the clip and listened to the commontators? I was ACTUALLY watching it live, and know full well what they said. Bumble's first reaction was that it was out; "There's a nick!" If Agar thought he hadn't hit it, why was his initial reaction as it was? Why did he follow the ball to see if it was caught? Why did his head go back in despair when he saw that it was caught? There have been some poor decisions against both sides in this series so far; but some of you Aussies are starting to blame the umpires and the DRS for your team's poor performances. You should be looking closer to home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Indeed, he followed the ball and when he saw it had been caught his head went back in despair. The reaction of a man who knew he had hit it. Have you ACTUALLY watched the clip and listened to the commontators? I was ACTUALLY watching it live, and know full well what they said. Bumble's first reaction was that it was out; "There's a nick!" If Agar thought he hadn't hit it, why was his initial reaction as it was? Why did he follow the ball to see if it was caught? Why did his head go back in despair when he saw that it was caught? There have been some poor decisions against both sides in this series so far; but some of you Aussies are starting to blame the umpires and the DRS for your team's poor performances. You should be looking closer to home! You and chicog are missing the point. The DRS shows no hotspot and no deviation of the ball from bat. The system is meant to back the decision of the on field umpire when there is doubt. The 3rd umpire over ruling the decision, based on a noise, went against the purpose of the DRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Hotspot is not infallible, it doesn't always show faint nicks. Whilst the third umpire does not use snicko, he does use the audio. There was a noise as the ball passed the bat. Agar's reaction shows he knew he had hit it. BTW, the YouTube clip you have linked to is edited. Were you watching it live, as I was, then you would know that the process took longer than that and both Bumble and Holding had more to say on the matter of the noise. If Agar was convinced he hadn't hit it, why does his initial reaction show him convinced that he had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Hotspot is not infallible, it doesn't always show faint nicks. Whilst the third umpire does not use snicko, he does use the audio. There was a noise as the ball passed the bat. Agar's reaction shows he knew he had hit it. BTW, the YouTube clip you have linked to is edited. Were you watching it live, as I was, then you would know that the process took longer than that and both Bumble and Holding had more to say on the matter of the noise. If Agar was convinced he hadn't hit it, why does his initial reaction show him convinced that he had? That is chicogs youtube link , not mine. Are you saying that if a player looks innocent of snicking a ball, that should weigh in his favour? The decision should have been not enough evidence to overturn the on field umpires call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Indeed, he followed the ball and when he saw it had been caught his head went back in despair. The reaction of a man who knew he had hit it. Have you ACTUALLY watched the clip and listened to the commontators? I was ACTUALLY watching it live, and know full well what they said. Bumble's first reaction was that it was out; "There's a nick!" If Agar thought he hadn't hit it, why was his initial reaction as it was? Why did he follow the ball to see if it was caught? Why did his head go back in despair when he saw that it was caught? There have been some poor decisions against both sides in this series so far; but some of you Aussies are starting to blame the umpires and the DRS for your team's poor performances. You should be looking closer to home! I'll stick with the objective Michael Holding who was incredulous that it was given out. Maybe you should have a cup of Bonox and go for a lie down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Indeed, he followed the ball and when he saw it had been caught his head went back in despair. The reaction of a man who knew he had hit it. Have you ACTUALLY watched the clip and listened to the commontators? I was ACTUALLY watching it live, and know full well what they said. Bumble's first reaction was that it was out; "There's a nick!" If Agar thought he hadn't hit it, why was his initial reaction as it was? Why did he follow the ball to see if it was caught? Why did his head go back in despair when he saw that it was caught? There have been some poor decisions against both sides in this series so far; but some of you Aussies are starting to blame the umpires and the DRS for your team's poor performances. You should be looking closer to home! I'll stick with the objective Michael Holding who was incredulous that it was given out. Maybe you should have a cup of Bonox and go for a lie down Don't make me google Wil. Bonox seems to be similar to our Bovril. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Don't make me google Wil. Bonox seems to be similar to our Bovril. Same same but different. Bonox tastes better. Bit like Vegemite and the inferior Marmite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I'll stick with the objective Michael Holding who was incredulous that it was given out. Maybe you should have a cup of Bonox and go for a lie down Was there any respectable commentator that thought it was out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Don't make me google Wil. Bonox seems to be similar to our Bovril. Same same but different. Bonox tastes better. Bit like Vegemite and the inferior Marmite Bonox! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 BTW, the YouTube clip you have linked to is edited. That is chicogs youtube link , not mine. Apols. But it's the link posted by Will27 I was referring to, not that posted by Chicog. Are you saying that if a player looks innocent of snicking a ball, that should weigh in his favour? Not at all. But I am saying that Agar knew he had hit it and was out and then saw some hope when Erasmus gave him not out. I'll stick with the objective Michael Holding who was incredulous that it was given out. I, too, have the greatest of respect for Holding as an objective commentator. But as said, you are basing your comments on his reaction on an edited clip; I saw and heard the whole thing as it happened. He and Bumble discussed this at length afterward, and he did concede that the third umpire may have heard a noise. But at the end of the day, Agar was given out. Whether that was the correct decision or not is now irrelevant, as is, for example, Trott's lbw that wasn't at Trent Bridge. As I have already said, both sides have been the victims of poor decisions in the series so far. I doubt that Aussies would be complaining so much had they won the first test and their performance not been so dire in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 In fairness, the Aussies aren't complaining. A few of their bitter fans, on the other hand, are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) ...^ But the press aren't showing much support 'From mediocrity to desperation': the Australian press on the Ashes If Michael Clarke's side were looking for comfort at home after their Lord's disaster, they are in for a nasty surprise...http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/22/australian-press-reaction-second-ashes-test Love this line...""[Watson] could sell advertising space on his pads, so prominently are they featuring in each day's play," observes Haigh. Edited July 23, 2013 by mad mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 MALCOLM Conn runs the rule over Australia's line-up after a disappointing defeat at Lord's. Shane Watson – 4Once again made two good starts but fell leg before wicket twice to his sucker ball, the full inswinger. Chris Rogers – 3Had two confused failures to Graeme Swann, who is proving a nightmare for Australia’s left-handers. SHELL-SHOCKED AUSSIES LOSE AGAIN Usman Khawaja – 5Fought hard for a second innings half-century after a dreadful shot in the first innings. Phil Hughes – 1His polished 81 not out at Trent Bridge is fast becoming a distant memory after scores of 1 and 1. Michael Clarke – 6An improved performance with a second innings half-century. Appears to be struggling with his back. Steve Smith – 4Picked up four bonus wickets with his occasional leg-spin but very disappointing with the bat. Brad Haddin – 1Disappointing match with bat and gloves. Two single figure scores and two edges he simply let go. Ashton Agar – 1His honeymoon lasted just one Test. The talented 19-year-old failed to take a wicket or make many runs. Peter Siddle – 5Another wholehearted performance on an unresponsive wicket, including a brilliant early second innings spell. James Pattinson – 4Was disappointing with the ball again but batted quite well. His place is in danger. Ryan Harris – 7Australia’s best player at Lord’s. A wonderful return to Test cricket after more than a year out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Don't make me google Wil. Bonox seems to be similar to our Bovril. Same same but different. Bonox tastes better. Bit like Vegemite and the inferior Marmite You lot couldn't bowl a pavlova.....do ya give in yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Don't make me google Wil. Bonox seems to be similar to our Bovril. Same same but different. Bonox tastes better. Bit like Vegemite and the inferior Marmite You lot couldn't bowl a pavlova.....do ya give in yet? You'll wake the kiwis up mentioning pavlova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 How are Kevin Rudd Prime Minister of Canada and Cricket related? Well, one of the comments from this blog when trying to rationalise the Colonial Colonies was ... The big difference is Canada are crap at cricket whereas Australia … oh wait ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) In fairness, the Aussies aren't complaining. A few of their bitter fans, on the other hand, are. Bitter fans? You mean fans of this National beer I presume? Edited July 24, 2013 by BookMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Easy on the "national" there BookMan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Easy on the "national" there BookMan! Sorry, I do I admit I am a cider man myself. What is the national bitter of choice do you think? Melbourne Bitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 We'd probably need a new thread to discuss that Wait until the Poms start on Fosters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 UK advert from the 1980's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Let's get rid of this test match crap and bring on the one-dayers I say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Let's get rid of this test match crap and bring on the one-dayers I say Is that so the pain is less prolonged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Let's get rid of this test match crap and bring on the one-dayers I say Off to the bathroom with you, young Will. Instead of washing your hands of the Ashes ... we will be washing your mouth out with soap. Speaking of this technique ... has anyone ever had that done to them? I never had ... just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Let's get rid of this test match crap and bring on the one-dayers I say Is that so the pain is less prolonged? Good point... Is there some more T20 games we could schedule? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Let's get rid of this test match crap and bring on the one-dayers I say Off to the bathroom with you, young Will. Instead of washing your hands of the Ashes ... we will be washing your mouth out with soap. Speaking of this technique ... has anyone ever had that done to them? I never had ... just curious. What, Mum washing your mouth out with soap? My mum (bless her) not only threatened to do it but bloody cunningly did it to me as well... Being a consumer of Lime (green) cordial as a kid had its perils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Let's get rid of this test match crap and bring on the one-dayers I say Is that so the pain is less prolonged? You've got it! Then again, I'm assuming that we can bat 50 overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Let's get rid of this test match crap and bring on the one-dayers I say Is that so the pain is less prolonged? Good point... Is there some more T20 games we could schedule? If the T20 and one-dayers are no good for us, maybe a game of French cricket would be in order? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 David Warner just made 186no for Aust A against S.Africa. Due to come back to England on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) duplicate Edited July 24, 2013 by Old Croc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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