joeaverage Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I am a perfect example of this. I am 33 and have been living here for 6 years now. My monthly average income has probably never been more than 25,000 a baht and I have lived a healthy life, visited many parts of Thailand, never had visa issues, have a nice apartment, motorbike and even get out for the sports and some nightlife when i want. Should I not be here then ? Hmmm, I don't doubt that you're living a healthy and contented life. Have you considered your future? At 25,000 bt/month, I doubt if you're saving very much. And you're not contributing towards any sort of pension or social security. On top of that, you're pissing away you're most productive years. If you keep on this path, you will be one of the broke expats that the OP is talking about when you hit 60. And if you have a family.... wow thanks dad . I'm impressed with all those assumptions being made. On what basis do you doubt I am living a healthy life ? Definitive factual reasons I mean. If you doubt I am living a healthy life on 25,000 baht then what must you think of the average thai who lives on 10,000 ?! In regards to your questions regarding my future. Again a whole load of assumptions made by very little information. Again how are you defining broke ? Is 25,000 a month in Thailand broke. wow, that rebuttal fizzled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinteln Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) I am a perfect example of this. I am 33 and have been living here for 6 years now. My monthly average income has probably never been more than 25,000 a baht and I have lived a healthy life, visited many parts of Thailand, never had visa issues, have a nice apartment, motorbike and even get out for the sports and some nightlife when i want. Should I not be here then ? Hmmm, I don't doubt that you're living a healthy and contented life. Have you considered your future? At 25,000 bt/month, I doubt if you're saving very much. And you're not contributing towards any sort of pension or social security. On top of that, you're pissing away you're most productive years. If you keep on this path, you will be one of the broke expats that the OP is talking about when you hit 60. And if you have a family.... wow thanks dad . I'm impressed with all those assumptions being made. On what basis do you doubt I am living a healthy life ? Definitive factual reasons I mean. If you doubt I am living a healthy life on 25,000 baht then what must you think of the average thai who lives on 10,000 ?! In regards to your questions regarding my future. Again a whole load of assumptions made by very little information. Again how are you defining broke ? Is 25,000 a month in Thailand broke. I think the issue is are you able to save any money for your future when perhaps one day you can no longer earn 25k. There is no welfare system here. No freebie pension from the state. Just picture yourself at 75. Now you may already have that covered, you may own property elsewhere or have expectations of an inheritance, in which case good luck o you and on tinge to enjoy! I think the OP is a complete trolling fool by the way! Totally agree with you which is why assumptions should not be made. The guy questioning me has come to all kinds of assumptions that he could not possibly know just based on my income here. But anyway the point of using myself as an example was not be cross examined about my life situation but to show that and also ask the question of deciding what is broke and not broke and what basis or structure is it decided that someone should not be here or not ? Edited June 19, 2013 by rinteln 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosta Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Jason, it has been my experience that in Isaan Villages men move into the wife's family's house and become part of that family. In my village we have many men that were from other villages and moved here because of their wife, but very few women that weren't born here.- Not at all what I've learned, but maybe the different ethnic groups in the region have different ideas that way? The wife is actually expected to become part of the husband's family more than the other way, and in fact it's almost a cliche about how she can become a slave of the wrong kind of mother in law (combined with a husband that doesn't shield her properly). In any case during the formal discussions over the sin sot (traditionally a full-on ceremonial occasion, through your appointed elder representative) you can make it clear what your expectations are, lay all the cards on the table and the family/village elders assembled to negotiate on her side will consider your demands and respond as they see fit, and the agreement so reached is binding in front of many witnesses. As they say "up to you"! - - if you was a reguler on here you would no im the one that cant spell to save his life dosnt make me a bad person - I know Jake, which is why I apologized for my joke, sincerely meant no offense, hate grammar nazis myself. . . Edited June 19, 2013 by boosta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeaverage Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 What is the point of your thread? That u have some income from your business in the UK? And that this makes u eligible to assume a position at the top of farang hierarchy in Thailand? Or that foreigners with income below a certain level (yours?) not be allowed into Thailand? Little arrogant no? This guy's already been outed as a lowly software engineer by virtue of his avatar,that's why he changed it.Saying that as he's here I imagine he's already been sacked from that job anyway,probably for being a pathological liar!It is getting rather tedious outing these Walter Mitty types,it's like the mythical Hydra of Greek legend,you cut one down and two seem to spring back up.Homeownership,Blubber,amykat,Phonysis,the list goes on. They've all sent me PMs at some point begging for money as well,needless to say I turned them all down flat! oh, thats conclusive, what information do you glean from my picture, other than the fact i have the ability to type "mullet" into google images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sigurris Posted June 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2013 What an arrogant and elitist post! I am rich and successful and only want to be around people like me, really? Which is what most people around the world do, they stay with their own. But you wanted something different. You come to a developing nation where your wealth becomes more pronounced and then have the temerity to tell the rest of the ex pat community how to live their lives. Thailand isn't the greatest nation on earth and Thai's are not the greatest people. There are some wonderful things about the country and the people but there are also some massive flaws. And that is a statement that could be said about many nations. Why should someone who lives in Thailand have to make an effort to make friends with Thai's? Where is the benefit? If friendships happen then they happen. Personally the vast majority of my friends and aquaintances are Westerners and the vast majority of those Westerners are British. Am I missing out on the rich tapestry of life? I don't think so. I socialise with people who are on my wavelength who have common goals, experiences and terms of reference as me. And remember this Johny Hitler the majority of Brits and Americans are 3 paychecks away from being homeless (check the research). So with your forced repatriation programme for ex pats how would you deal with all those people at home who are broke or are a thin veneer of varnish away from broke? Where would you send them, to the workhouse? Baa humbug. The joy of this forum is that I never have to meet such a self opinionated <deleted> as you. Please please please stay with your Thai friends, buy them all the lao cow you can and become the Thai you so want to be. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagler Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 why is it that the Real Estate failures of the West all seem to gyrate towards Thailand, open a dinky office somewhere and then start threads like these only to fold 12-18 months later ? Cmon OP if you were in any good at your job you would be trading in the West, making the high fees in comparision and commuting in and out of the country like the rest of us successful property professionals do. I guess the sponsership payments keep the forum free for the rest of us. so thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSnapper Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 If you believe that 1 million Baht per year gives you "luxury", you certainly have no clue what luxury is. This will give you a comfortable life style in a third world country. But far from luxury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) . On behalf of many who have just read your insightful musings ... . To emphasize your observations and comments David, this might help.................... 433-annasophia-robb---giant-troll.jpg Who won't be here long as his 20 Baht will soon run out in the Internet shop. He started the post at 0820 and made his last comment at 0915, maybe I was wrong and he only had 15 Baht's worth of Internet time. Wealthy my arse, probably had to dash for his 150 Baht English conversation class........if he's even in this country! Edited June 19, 2013 by uptheos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinteln Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 What an arrogant and elitist post! I am rich and successful and only want to be around people like me, really? Which is what most people around the world do, they stay with their own. But you wanted something different. You come to a developing nation where your wealth becomes more pronounced and then have the temerity to tell the rest of the ex pat community how to live their lives. Thailand isn't the greatest nation on earth and Thai's are not the greatest people. There are some wonderful things about the country and the people but there are also some massive flaws. And that is a statement that could be said about many nations. Why should someone who lives in Thailand have to make an effort to make friends with Thai's? Where is the benefit? If friendships happen then they happen. Personally the vast majority of my friends and aquaintances are Westerners and the vast majority of those Westerners are British. Am I missing out on the rich tapestry of life? I don't think so. I socialise with people who are on my wavelength who have common goals, experiences and terms of reference as me. And remember this Johny Hitler the majority of Brits and Americans are 3 paychecks away from being homeless (check the research). So with your forced repatriation programme for ex pats how would you deal with all those people at home who are broke or are a thin veneer of varnish away from broke? Where would you send them, to the workhouse? Baa humbug. The joy of this forum is that I never have to meet such a self opinionated <deleted> as you. Please please please stay with your Thai friends, buy them all the lao cow you can and become the Thai you so want to be. Just excellent allround. Best response so far !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GuestHouse Posted June 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2013 I don't think I've ever met the OP, I rather hope I never do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosta Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) I agree with most of what you're saying, but find it best to ignore the arrogant elitism part and just focus on the part of the conversation that interests me. - Why should someone who lives in Thailand have to make an effort to make friends with Thai's? Where is the benefit? If friendships happen then they happen. Personally the vast majority of my friends and aquaintances are Westerners and the vast majority of those Westerners are British. Am I missing out on the rich tapestry of life? I don't think so. I socialise with people who are on my wavelength who have common goals, experiences and terms of reference as me.- I think yes, you're missing out on a lot. I find fellow first-worlders mostly pretty uninteresting, if I wanted that sort of company I'd go home and make real money. Your loss, up to you, certainly no "obligation" to get to know the locals if you prefer not to. But if you're here for decades a de-facto immigrant, think of the opinion back home of those who stay in their tiny enclave and never learn your language or interact with the locals there. Same-same you. . . Edited June 19, 2013 by boosta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosta Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) If you believe that 1 million Baht per year gives you "luxury", you certainly have no clue what luxury is. This will give you a comfortable life style in a third world country. But far from luxury. - Yes median family income back home is nearly double that, and certainly no luxury at all in that lifestyle. The hundreds of teachers I know making more than that here are doing pretty well though. . . Edited June 19, 2013 by boosta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 The OP is in another world, has the rose glasses and is still rather full of himself.. He will learn.. In good time, Choke Dee! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huayrat Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Yep I'm finding it harder.. Living on 100k baht ever month ain't easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancnx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Thought I would look at the OP profile. He started this thread: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/645071-thailand-my-second-home-programme/#entry6485262 Nothing here to suggest he is extremely wealthy, if he was he would not concern himself with visa runs would he. Being such a fine upstanding nearly Thai guy, why would he be considering leaving for the shores of more attractive and easier Malaysia. Also nothing to suggest he knows anything about business in Thailand. Rumbled ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I don't think I've ever met the OP, I rather hope I never do. If you do, he's probably the guy who will tap you up for a free beer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct99q Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 . On behalf of many who have just read your insightful musings ... . To emphasize your observations and comments David, this might help.................... 433-annasophia-robb---giant-troll.jpg more to the point, it is a successful troll, and posting your little pictures wont change that. yet still you feed it. want it to go away? don't engage it. not sure who is worse the "trolls" or the people who call them out. oh wait, yes i am Uhm.....you realize you keep adding to the same post you say is a troll post and then flame others by saying they keep the troll going by posting on his/her post. Me I don't give a flying fart.....just killing time between diapers. BTW - read all the posts again and you will see the reference to dribble....may have drooled a little over some peoples heads though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I don't think I've ever met the OP, I rather hope I never do. Small chance you ever meet the OP if you stay clear from bridges and caves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hawkman Posted June 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2013 While there is nothing wrong with the OP asking this question, he comes across as extremely arrogant, full of himself and thinks he is more worthy in life than people who are poorer than him. Why does he think he deserves to enjoy Thailand other than people less off than him? Why do people need to clarify their wealth to get his seal of approval. You don't need to be wealthy to leave imprints in life. Though, I'm for less sexpats and criminals coming here; to tar people less off as sexpats is ridiculous. For the record, yes, I don't have much money lying about; I have made mistakes in the past and if I could turn back time and had a good head about me when it comes to money, I'd change that in a second; my upbringing and my fault for not investing and saving - some people are better with money than others, just because people aren't doesn't mean they can't learn from their mistakes and enjoy life. I work hard, 6 days a week to survive here, spend my day off and the majority of evenings studying; I get next to no time for chasing girls here and very rarely go out, but in the end I know this working and studying will pave the way for a better financial future. I enjoy living, working and studying here, so why shouldn't I continue that just because it doesn't meet the OP's arrogant criteria? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 why is it that the Real Estate failures of the West all seem to gyrate towards Thailand, open a dinky office somewhere and then start threads like these only to fold 12-18 months later ? Some of were hoping for 12-18 minutes, at worst 12-18 hours. God help us if it's still going in 12-18 days ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 How is your millionaires lifestyle in your mummys spare room ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblether Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 What is the point of your thread? That u have some income from your business in the UK? And that this makes u eligible to assume a position at the top of farang hierarchy in Thailand? Or that foreigners with income below a certain level (yours?) not be allowed into Thailand? Little arrogant no?This guy's already been outed as a lowly software engineer by virtue of his avatar,that's why he changed it.Saying that as he's here I imagine he's already been sacked from that job anyway,probably for being a pathological liar!It is getting rather tedious outing these Walter Mitty types,it's like the mythical Hydra of Greek legend,you cut one down and two seem to spring back up.Homeownership,Blubber,amykat,Phonysis,the list goes on. They've all sent me PMs at some point begging for money as well,needless to say I turned them all down flat! Now now, don't be telling out and out lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiamaster Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Quote: 3)Show respect to Thai People, they deserve it, don't walk around like your the attache from the British Raj or something. Get to know the culture, emerse yourself in it, it will bring you peace. 4. Never be afraid to complain, if you don't like something complain and get it changed. Don't cow tow to anyone. ^ seems a contradiction to me.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennedy Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 How is your millionaires lifestyle in your mummys spare room ? How is your millionaires lifestyle in your mummys spare room ? Thailand has been a haven for trust fund babies for many years living in their make believe world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberduck Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Homeownership has clearly never lived in Thailand hence he post so much complete nonsense. Sent from my ASUS Fonepad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinteln Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) The topic was always intended as a troll and he has got what he wanted. Topic started at 08.20 and already over 100 replies. Edited June 19, 2013 by rinteln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puyai Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I am a perfect example of this. I am 33 and have been living here for 6 years now. My monthly average income has probably never been more than 25,000 a baht and I have lived a healthy life, visited many parts of Thailand, never had visa issues, have a nice apartment, motorbike and even get out for the sports and some nightlife when i want. Should I not be here then ? Hmmm, I don't doubt that you're living a healthy and contented life. Have you considered your future? At 25,000 bt/month, I doubt if you're saving very much. And you're not contributing towards any sort of pension or social security. On top of that, you're pissing away you're most productive years. If you keep on this path, you will be one of the broke expats that the OP is talking about when you hit 60. And if you have a family.... wow thanks dad . I'm impressed with all those assumptions being made. On what basis do you doubt I am living a healthy life ? Definitive factual reasons I mean. If you doubt I am living a healthy life on 25,000 baht then what must you think of the average thai who lives on 10,000 ?! In regards to your questions regarding my future. Again a whole load of assumptions made by very little information. Again how are you defining broke ? Is 25,000 a month in Thailand broke. I couldn't live on it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikoman Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I see merit in some of your list that I believe that any expats to any country in the world should do. To get to intimately know the country and her people and to participate in the community that they reside in. I have always heard American's back in the states say of the Mexican- American population of the U.S. (immigrant as well as citizens) that they should forget their mother tongue and talk only English, this is America! Also the Lunatic right wing that have followed an "English only"" platform and many states in the Union have passed "English Only" laws I hear many people on this forum complain about the lack of English speaking people in the markets, stores,etc. the language of Thailand is Thai that is the expected language of communication in this country. Either you should learn it well enough to communicate your needs or have a local (Wife/GF) interpret for you. Many Expats came here for the nightlife, along with its inexpensive and easy access to young beautiful women! Back in their home countries they can either have a overweight grandmother or visit the expensive home country hookers. The sad part is many of those people can not retain a relationship with a Thai female and end up with a lonely existence here until their next check comes from the home country. Here any male regardless of looks, overweight, lack of any manners, can still have a great time, where back in the home country they would lead a very lonely existence. Cheers: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post metisdead Posted June 19, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2013 Trolling nonsense topic is now closed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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