Gone Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The NACC is useless as no one there speaks English. Unless you speak Thai or have a Thai lawyer you are out of luck. Thai lawyers will not help anyways as they do not want to get involved. When I called the NACC first time I was told by a female that she would text me the email in order to email my full complaint to and they would review it and decide weather I had a legitimate case or not. She did say that my case was for sure a legit one. Oh yes I can speak Thai but cannot write Thai so this is what I needed. Anyways, she never text me and I have called her number back for the past 4 weeks but now no answer. You would think with the amount or tourists, expats etc. here and them considering Thailand a hub for this that and the other and the Government saying they want to clean up all the corruption that they would have a division for foreigners to report corruption wouldn't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stradavarius37 Posted June 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2013 Don Quixote would be proud.... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaRanter Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Better off creating a Facebook page for it, even the traffic police has threatened to resort to that technique. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 Better off creating a Facebook page for it, even the traffic police has threatened to resort to that technique. That i NOT the way to go true me. Then it becomes "defamation" section 326 & 328 of the Thai Criminal Code. Also that is a GREAT way to get yourself thrown in jail without bail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted June 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2013 Easy - the system is not actually designed to be active or respond in anyway, and certainly not for some cheeky farang. Once you've grasped this point, you'll be fine. Like the rest of us, grin and bare it. Learn to go with the flow, even if it's a little oderous sometimes. Remember - you ain't got any rights here and it's simple to get rid of any pesky farang. You can't buck the system in any country, and most certainly not here! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooloomooloo Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Baerbox - I couldn't have put it better, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eesat Posted June 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2013 "How can foreigners report corruption?" 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Have you ever seen these bumper stickers in the USA?: If this vehicle is driving in an unsafe manner, please report it by calling 1-800-EAT-POOP If so, you get the idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 it is the same with google.... big coorporation and no email or contact address where you can report any kind of problems with a website or ads beeing displaid againt the rules, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brfsa2 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Yes, you can report, It depends what kind of corruption thou. In some cases it will be worth something, but most cases you will just get laughed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppmacready Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 "How can foreigners report corruption?" Is this a trick question? Anonymously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netizen Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Perhaps an organization needs to be created to investigate the ONACC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct99q Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 In the past it was certainly a lot more difficult to expose people (ie politician, corrupt official, law enforcement, media) however with today's multi-media access it is becoming much easier (some say too easy) to expose people. It does require one to be factual though and have concrete evidence (of sorts). But if you truly believe the information you have is correct and can prove it, then the social media is the way to go. Not saying it will be easy, or produce results. Me, if I truly cared if some one was corrupt then I would take this route. But honestly I have lived in and have been a resident in 6 countries (paid taxes, worked, earned a living) and have seen the same thing in everyone of them. Corruption is no longer and illegal offense. It is one of the several perks of your particular job. Like the Senator Expense Scandal in Canada, it was not illegal they just manipulated the rules to justify the illegal procurement of taxpayers money. Job Perk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Why would I think anything of the sort after having lived here several years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stickylies Posted June 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2013 I always report it at the local 7/11. The girls listen, smile and wai when I'm done. Life is great here! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragickingdom Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Wow yet another foreigner who thinks he figured it out. Go to the temple, ask the monk to say a few prayers and change your religion. Maybe it makes you understand that everybody is allowed one vice. Don't stick your nose in things that are non of your business. You have the wrong color and wrong nationality. The boomerang you are about to throw will come back to behead you. You must be working with or for a NGO. Good luck changing the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragickingdom Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I always report it at the local 7/11. The girls listen, smile and wai when I'm done. Life is great here! That is the right spirit! And you know what the pretty girls at 7/11 do at least as if the are interested. Life is sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 ....you have no rights as a foreigner...unless u r prepared to 'pay through the nose' anyway.......for justice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg71 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Come on thaivisa is the place to report it as your already done ,we will listen to you here as we have just done.You wont get this many responses from the Thai official as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 How can foreigners report corruption? Are you suicidal? 1st Get a good bodyguard 2nd You need to pay under-table money to bribe them to proceed with the corruption case 3rd Get good life insurance if you have family 4th Invest in an armoured vehicle 5th Preferable hide and keep a low profile 6th Write your will 7th Arrange your cremation before they do it for you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davidkas Posted June 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2013 I always report it at the local 7/11. The girls listen, smile and wai when I'm done. Life is great here! Sounds like a great philosophy. Sabai sabai. As has been said go with the flow. Sometimes corruption works for you. I got stopped for speeding, illegal U-turn, no documents (all separate). Each one my fault. The policeman, had a chat about football, bit of a laugh and I gave him some money, a lot less than the official fine and a lot less hassle than trying to find the office to pay the fine. Win win as far as I am concerned 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2013 The relevant points you are missing are countless. The primary issue, is that there is little to zero interest in fighting corruption here. Nearly every level of government, and law enforcement has given up the fight, or not bothered waging a fight in the first place. When they do, they are thwarted at every level, by nearly every official or person involved. Though Thailand has made alot of noise about integrating itself into the world community, and especially ASEAN, to date they have defied many, many charters they have signed, especially the 6th charter, which I believe was signed back in 2009. I am told there are about 20 different international government bodies that are going to monitor Thailand's participation, and conduct once the upcoming ASEAN integration takes place in 2015. Many are skeptical, for good reason. Thailand has a very long history of making promises to the international community, and breaking them, when it comes to integration, easing of customs restriction, the import market, etc. To date, they have remained fabulously insular, and in some respects resemble China, when it comes to keeping their own markets closed to outside competition. The term protectionism comes to mind. Getting back to the corruption issue, it is incredibly frustrating for many of us to see the level with which it affects this nation. But, so far, there is no Anna Hazare, or other such heroes who have stood up, risked life and limb, and been willing to carry the torch. I have seen no fight. No game. No resistance. No battle. No courage. No fortitude. No conviction. No arrests. Nobody jailed. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So, you are seeking something that is simply not there. There may be some talk from time to time, from goombahs like Chalerm, but no action, ever! Does the "anti-corruption" agency ever fight corruption? No. What do they do? They focus on election fraud. So, you are simply engaging in an act that, if it produces anything, will end in deportation, denial of a visa, scorn, violence, or bodily harm to you or your family. But, rest assured, it will not result in anybody being disciplined, losing their job, fined, or jailed. At the lowest to the highest level of government here, there is zero interest in that. SImply too much money being made, and no interest in upsetting the apple cart. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me313 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Easy - the system is not actually designed to be active or respond in anyway, and certainly not for some cheeky farang. Once you've grasped this point, you'll be fine. Like the rest of us, grin and bare it. Learn to go with the flow, even if it's a little oderous sometimes. Remember - you ain't got any rights here and it's simple to get rid of any pesky farang. You can't buck the system in any country, and most certainly not here! Cronyism is alive and well and living in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 "the Government saying they want to clean up all the corruption that they would have a division for foreigners ". Saying is not doing. Regarding a facebook type account and admonition to be factual, I don't think being factual is a defense against anti-defamation law here. Even if charges are true, the loss of face is grounds enough to win a suit against you. Estrada left out one step, which would be "liquidate your assets here and leave country never to return". Then maybe could skip cremation, etc steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Please do not report any more corruption to the authorities as they have a 100 years backlog in complaints to investigate (i.e., sort, staple, and then file into file number 13 but this process still takes time). Over the last 2 years most of the complaints filed have been complaints from Democrat Party against the Pheu Thai Party; previous few years it was vice versa. This high surge of complaints has simply overwhelmed the authorities and they have run out of corruption complaints filing space, especially since some of their warehousing filing capacity was reallocated to storing rice....and no one needs to file a complaint regarding this reallotment of storage space as the Democrat Party has already filed the complaint. Duplicate complaints just make the complaint storage problem even worst so please don't do it. Summary: please place in abeyance any additional corruption complaints unit 2113. Thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 (edited) ....you have no rights as a foreigner... <deleted>, thai have no rights either. when confronted with corruption they pay and go on with their life. one of the many reasons why thai suffer LESS from depression, burn-out, chronic fatuigue, nervous breakdown, etc. Edited June 23, 2013 by stickylies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naroge Posted June 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2013 Does the government in your home country have a special department where foreigners can report corruption in their own native language? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Why not the OP tells us what actually happened... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 Why not the OP tells us what actually happened... Because by doing so here on a public site I would be facing more charges. Let's just say that my passport is being held on a pending charge that is bogus. They only want money and will not give me my PP back until I pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newguy70 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I am sure there are many ways.... Hidden camera + you tube + anonymous email to news agencies + your embassy. At least you will get a good laugh if nothing else comes of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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