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lovethaiguy Explorer Member

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I have known my boyfriend since April. We met in person for the first time on June 14th when I flew to Bangkok. I have made so far two trips to see him..one in June and another in August and I go again on 19th September. The relationship is developing very well. As well as anyone could expect. I have have a few affairs with Thai guys before and had my heart broken just last Feb with another who I met in September last year. But that is over.

I am a semi retired teacher in late 50's. Now my friend has no issue with the age gap and either do I.

My new friend is 21 years old and shows so many good genuine qualities that the other one did not. I feel it just can't get any better than this. Anyway we have admitted to each other many any times that we love each other and I indeed do beleive him and I do love him very much. He has bought me things with his limited money and has cried every time I leave. FIrst time this has ever happend...I know he is very genuine and worthwhile in many ways. He is what I have been seeking for many years.

I want to bring him her to Australia for a holiday. Well....talk about complex! I have spend weeks on the website trying to figure it out. He can't get a working visa as the rules say he must have a Doctorate degree, or a Bachor degree or Diploma etc etc....My boyfriend only has a high school qualifiication. Also the rules say he must have $5000.00 (144,208.00 Thai Baht). Of course he DOES NOT have that much money in the bank and either do I. It seems quite crazy to me. So that rules out the work visa. I am still yet to study the Student visa requirements.

So I am working on the tourist visa for him subclass 600.....( e-visitor which is not allowed for Thai people) the form is Tourist stream 1419 in Thai and Eglish.

The form is quite complex and I beleive I must fill it in for him - my boyfriend would have no chance in hell trying to fill it in correctly and he can't write English.

I can do it. No problem....it is hard work....but I have a university degree....I think one NEEDS this to be able to fill this form in successfully. I have all the check lists.....AND the other forms to fill in such as the 956 and 956A (I am still confused as to which one of these to fill in...) A GREAT deal of care and thought needs to be put into it...such as making sure ALL the information they want is there.

I am flying to Bangkok in a few weeks to submit this form after I have filled it in and have my boyfriend view it and sign it... this will be AFTER I spend days getting all the other letters from his boss, letter from my boyfriend nomitating me as a sponsor, getting the form translated to English, getting a live translator to speak with his boss, get the boss to write a letter (in Thai) and get THAT translated. It will be time consuming and difficult no doubt. Hence I feel for us to have a chance at success, the forms need to be done properly.

My friend has been emplyed as a shop assistant at the 7 Eleven chain since 1/1/13. So he has 9 months of excellent service with a very good employer whom do stringent tests on character and honest with their employees. I have been told by a Thai friend in Australia that he will have " no problem" getting a visa. I wonder...

Problem is his boss will not give my friend any time off work. I think it is standard that MOST emplyers would refuse to give their staff 3 MONTHS, 6 MONTHS off work and expect to keep the job. In Australia one would need to resign. Well....the only option my boyfriend has is to resign.

So my question to the forum is does anyone know the rules for this situation? It he quit and the boss wrote that he would need to re-apply for his job or find another (probably at 7 Elelven) would the Australian Embassy grand him a visa for a holiday? Or maybe a 3 month stay so he could study an English course here?

Also I should add that he has strong family ties and a sister with good English and whom is married to a westerner (not Australian).

He is a good honest, genuine boy who loves me and wants to be with me. I want to be able to give him a better live eventually as we could later apply for the partner de-facto visa. He has told me he would love to come to Australia and live with me. I have more to offer him here than for me to go there and teach English. But that is an option to be considered.

Lastly could someone tell me the rules of the student visa? Or paste the link? But I feel somehow this visa may not be applicable

I hope my story makes sense to readers. I thank you in advance for any advice or information you may have in this very hard time for me.

Thank you! (If some one my text is unclear please point this out...)

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ALFREDO Platinum Member

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OP - Whatever, if you real, just go to the Australian Consulate and try your luck with a Tourist Visa. You as "inviting Party"

There are many countries where Thai Passport holders can enter without a Visa and big problems.

Just Google.

I managed to get 9 or 10 Tourist Visa for 5 different women without a employment at that time (Thai and Cambodian once) from 2001 - 2009 without rejection.

But that was at the Austrian Embassy Consulate in Bangkok. So in the easier old times and the restriction got also more tight there!

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AloisAmrein Advanced Member

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You should improve your English. For what you are talking about your university degree your English is quite lousy. I say this as a person without English mothertongue. Second: Your boyfriend's professional qualification is exactly what is needed in Australia: "shop assistant at the 7 Eleven chain since 1/1/13". I think you should reconsider your decision to bring him to Australia, because he not fits any qualifications needed on the job list in Australia. Third: Sorry to say this, but may be he is using you only to get entry to Australia. But this you have to decide yourself. Just be warned.

David48 Star Member

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Nice sentiment and good research Jingthing ... though, it ain't gonna happen, because the current Government most likely won't be re-elected.

The other main party opposed same sex marriage.

Theo007 Silver Member

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Sorry to have to tell you this however since you have spent such a short time together you are very unlikely to obtain any type of visa for him.

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lovethaiguy Explorer Member

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You state you have an university degree?.... not in any English language I hope!! That would involve things like spelling, grammar and punctuation.

Aside from that.... you have a Hades chance of getting a visa for him. Sorry, face up to the fact that this sort of situation is exactly what the Aus authorities are trying to avoid. A better idea is maybe for you to visit him here more often..... but that may be a bit too revealing.

I really do not understand your reply about my english language skills. I typed that original message out in quite a hurry due to being rather busy with other things. I appologize if my grammar is not to your liking and not perfect by your standards. Also this is NOT the reason for my posting. I am simply ttrying to get information about Austalian Visa for my Thai friend. And for your information Mr/Mrs/Ms tolsti I do have a degree in Music Education. So perfect english grammar may NOT be my specialy. Who cares!

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Jingthing Legendary Member

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Nice sentiment and good research Jingthing ... though, it ain't gonna happen, because the current Government most likely won't be re-elected.

The other main party opposed same sex marriage.

You're right. I should know from Australian politics? wink.png

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krisb Ruby Member

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Your best bet is try a tourist visa as David mentioned. Perhaps try ringing a visa agent and ask for a professional opinion. There's not many options left I can think of. Best of luck with it.

Ps, don't get offended over the use of the word troll. Its not describing looks, it stems from the word to trawl. Which I'm sure you can work out.

krisb Ruby Member

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OP what is your total net worth? 

 

Doesn't really matter. I know people who have gotten visas with minimal bank roll.
lovethaiguy Explorer Member

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Giving the benefit of the doubt ... have a read of this ... australian-tourist-visa-application most of the links are current and it's ageneral guideline.

Remember, it's your partner applying for the Visa ... not you.

yes it is my partner applying but I am doing all the work, acting as his agent, exempt person supporter in which I fill in a form 496. And my bf has to write a letter inviting me to act as his sponsor. I also have to write a letter inviting him to Australia. How many people knew that? My bf can't write English so I have to do it. No choice.
lovethaiguy Explorer Member

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Giving the benefit of the doubt ... have a read of this ... australian-tourist-visa-application most of the links are current and it's ageneral guideline.

Remember, it's your partner applying for the Visa ... not you.

yes it is my partner applying but I am doing all the work, acting as his agent, exempt person supporter in which I fill in a form 496. And my bf has to write a letter inviting me to act as his sponsor. I also have to write a letter inviting him to Australia. How many people knew that? My bf can't write English so I have to do it. No choice.
this link is way out of date now. The form subclass 600 now. And the form is 1419 tourist visa. Many things have changed since Feb 2012
krisb Ruby Member

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Giving the benefit of the doubt ... have a read of this ... australian-tourist-visa-application most of the links are current and it's ageneral guideline.

Remember, it's your partner applying for the Visa ... not you.

yes it is my partner applying but I am doing all the work, acting as his agent, exempt person supporter in which I fill in a form 496. And my bf has to write a letter inviting me to act as his sponsor. I also have to write a letter inviting him to Australia. How many people knew that? My bf can't write English so I have to do it. No choice.
How many people knew that?

Actually most of us here if not all of us. Your in the visa section here. I'd suggest don't write his letter with your hand writing, use a printer and he can sign it.

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Giving the benefit of the doubt ... have a read of this ... australian-tourist-visa-application most of the links are current and it's ageneral guideline.

Remember, it's your partner applying for the Visa ... not you.

yes it is my partner applying but I am doing all the work, acting as his agent, exempt person supporter in which I fill in a form 496. And my bf has to write a letter inviting me to act as his sponsor. I also have to write a letter inviting him to Australia. How many people knew that? My bf can't write English so I have to do it. No choice.
this link is way out of date now. The form subclass 600 now. And the form is 1419 tourist visa. Many things have changed since Feb 2012
What's changed? The form numbers changed, the price has changed and maybe some of the questions, but the song remains the same.
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simple1 Star Member

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Well 59 and 21...all I can say is good luck! whistling.gifthumbsup.gif

RAZZ

Yes...well....59 and 21! Gosh I am so lucky! I am very happy about that. He loves me and I love him. I think it's a situation in which he likes a father figure and I being gay all my 59 years have never had a son so I see in him the son I never had...but of course it IS different as the relationship is sexual. The father son figure thing is really the emotional needs part of the relationship.

This type of age difference is actually quite common in Thailand...I know as I have been dating Thai men since 2003. True love does actually happen.

OP: Taking it on trust that you are not a troll review the following:

As you are a single man the Embassy will be reticent in providing a sponsored tourist visa due to the age difference; the embassy DIAC staff would have extensive experience in the downside issues. The embassy will know that most 7/11 employees are employed without a background check. Given your admitted level of funds between BF & yourself how would you be able to fund the costs to attend an education course in Australia or indeed does BF have the basic educational qualifications to attend? If you wish to research this option go to http://www.immi.gov.au/students/

Putting the above aside the major hurdle BF will face is proving sufficient proof that he will return to Thailand once his visa has expired, so far you have not posted anything that will address this issue.

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Will27 Diamond Member

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OP

The main problem you will have is the relatively short length of time you have known your boyfriend.

Also, as simple1 said above, the age difference won't help either.

You would be better off with your boyfriend staying in his job and applying again next year for a tourist visa.

You said "He is a good honest, genuine boy who loves me and wants to be with me."

I think the key word here is boy.

Anyway, good luck with the application, I think you'll need it.

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RAZZELL Platinum Member

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Well 59 and 21...all I can say is good luck! whistling.gifthumbsup.gif

RAZZ

Yes...well....59 and 21! Gosh I am so lucky! I am very happy about that. He loves me and I love him. I think it's a situation in which he likes a father figure and I being gay all my 59 years have never had a son so I see in him the son I never had...but of course it IS different as the relationship is sexual. The father son figure thing is really the emotional needs part of the relationship.

This type of age difference is actually quite common in Thailand...I know as I have been dating Thai men since 2003. True love does actually happen.

Absolute rubbish! OP - please don't make up things to justfy your relationship.

Find me a link or any proof that the average age difference of couples in Thailand or anywhere else in Asia is vastly different to the average age difference of couples in the West.

I can tell you good luck, because there isn't one!

For the last 100 years in the UK the average age difference has stayed at between 2-3 years for a first marriage.

http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/34801/1/PT120AgeDifference.pdf

RAZZ

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Will27 Diamond Member

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Wrong choice of words? Clearly not an English teacher coffee1.gif

Oh please, like people wouldn't call a 21 year old Thai female their girl. Making a thing about the boy word is simply homophobic.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree there mate.

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lovethaiguy Explorer Member

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Thank you for the replies decent folks. Many things happened which i won't go into on this forum, even though they are visa issues and relevant to this forum. Let's just see how things transpire over the next 6..7 months...i have had 2 weeks in Bangkok to sort out a few things. Thank you for your interest and help folks. .even though most were rather callous..

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Searat7 Silver Member

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Since you are semi retired and a teacher why not move to Thailand and live together here for a year. If all is still going well a year from now then take another look at getting him a visa for Australia. With your new prime minister's policy on Immigration having him live there with you might be very difficult unless he gets an Education Visa and goes to school there.

lovethaiguy Explorer Member

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7/11 good employer Franchise that employs anyone on the spot.

No - not true. from my reliable sources 7- Eleven put their staff through quite a rigorous test of character, honesty and integrity. After all, if they are going to work there they must be of sound charater to deal with the public and also be honest and not dip into the till. 7 Eleven does NOT emply just anyone off the street! Most do not speak English, but that is not a requirement of empolyment.

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7/11 good employer Franchise that employs anyone on the spot.

No - not true. from my reliable sources 7- Eleven put their staff through quite a rigorous test of character, honesty and integrity. After all, if they are going to work there they must be of sound charater to deal with the public and also be honest and not dip into the till. 7 Eleven does NOT emply just anyone off the street! Most do not speak English, but that is not a requirement of empolyment.

Someone is misinforming you. Thai family member applied & was employed the next day, only documentation needed was her school certificate - rigorous test of character, honesty and integrity not required, other than a short interview

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