What Happened To Tony?

[klubex99]

Thought I would share this one with you. Make of it what you will.

I am not usually a conspiracy theorist, but something here just didn't stack up to me.

It all started about 6 weeks ago. The Thai wife came into the house telling me that a new farang bar had opened just down the road from us. A big colourful sign had been erected pretty close to the end of our street, which had alerted her to this new place. The sign had a picture of a farang guy (European looking) maybe late fifties, who was posing with a wai and a big smile on his face. Above his head in large fints it proclaimed

'TONY'S BAR.... NOW OPEN'

With a big red arrow pointing down the lane.

So the next time I went out for a cigarette, I had a little stroll 50 yards down the road to look at this sign, and sure enough... Open from 17.00 to 12.00, Live sports etc etc... There was also the obligatory montage of Man Utd players and a premiership trophy, as well as a picture of the bar premises superimposed onto it. So I thought to myself I will pop in there this evening to say hello. I normally can recognise most farang that live in my part of Korat town, I see them here and there, but this guy I could not place, so I thought, maybe new to the area.

Anyway, that evening me and the wife drove down the lane to pick up some things from the shop 1KM away, and as we drove past Tony's Bar it was closed, this was around 7.30PM.. I though, that was strange having just put up a sign saying 'Now Open'. But on the way back I pulled over in the little parking place opposite, where there was another sign same as the one on the end of our street with an arrow pointing straight at this new place and the picture of the bar perfectly matched the one we were sat outside of... We were definitely at the right place, because this lane runs down the side of the soi and there are no other businesses for at least half a KM in any direction and on the opposite side of the road, nothing but swamp land.

I took a look around the place and though the lights were on, the place was empty and locked. So anyway, we just went somewhere else and elected to go another time.

A few days passed and we found ourselves driving back down the lane, and I said, if they are open we would call in... But same as a few nights earlier.. All locked up with all the lights on.... hmmmmmm I was starting to think, what the hell is wrong with this Tony guy? Advertising his new place and then closed more than he is open... I thought, this place will go bust in a month.

Now then since then I have driven past the place quite a few times and each time, the same.. I had totally given up on the place and put it out of my mind. Then... last night I drove past and the place was open.... So we swung into the parking area and called in for a swift one. Although the Tony signs had been taken down the place was totally unchanged.

While we were sitting there sipping our drinks and tucking into snacks, I asked the waitress where Tony was, and I was greeted with a very strange look on her face. She totally denied any existence of anyone called Tony, and we pointed out the signs that had been set up for the past month, and she just shook her head and said she was not aware of him. Something wasn't right... I can usually tell when someone is hiding something purely by body language and this girl seemed very fidgety and nervous, and seemed to keep glancing over to the swamp for some reason, so I started glancing over to the swamp and she seemed to notice this, and seemed to look even more sheepish.

You know when you can sense that someone is lying? Like it is so obvious in their behavior? Well that was the feeling me and wifey were getting. My wife also picked up on this and when the waitress went to another table, me and wifey just looked at each other, and agreed that something strange was going on here. So when another girl who was working there came close, my wife asked what had happened to Tony... Same behavior as the other girl, nervous, twitchy denial.

She even denied any existence of any signs, which we knew were there, and I even pointed to the spot less than 10 meters away where the sign once stood... we are talking a sign that was over 2 meters high. She totally denied any sign had been there with a farang on it... This is now making me feel a bit crazy, because I know there was a sign there. She even said she had owned that place for over 6 months before opening.

There is no way another bar was anywhere near this place, other than this one... Also the picture matched the bar we were sat in as mentioned earlier...There is just a moo baan and a swamp. I know the place like the back of my own hand, we were even driving round the moo baan that very night... There is no other place that could be Tony's Bar.

The whole thing was like something off the Twilight Zone.

Like I said, I am not normally a very suspicious person, or in any way a conspiracy theorist, but something is not right here..

So where the hell is Tony?

Edited October 7, 2013 by klubex99

[theblether]

In the swamp.

[farang000999]

Digested by now.

[klubex99]

In the swamp.

That is exactly what I said to the missus (with a wry smile) almost all of the evening.

The wife even commented on why the girl kept glancing at the swamp, and wifey even noticed that I was doing it, as a gesture to the waitress. As if to ask (without words) 'Why you keep looking in the swamp?'

[theblether]

In the swamp.

That is exactly what I said to the missus (with a wry smile) almost all of the evening.

The wife even commented on why the girl kept glancing at the swamp, and wifey even noticed that I was doing it, as a gesture to the waitress. As if to ask (without words) 'Why you keep looking in the swamp?'

Look at the bright side, if anyone offers an award for information of the whereabouts of Tony, you'll be quids in.

[I knew this would happen]

Poor Tony,another black widow story.

[soi41]

Another "investor" who had served his purpose !!

[Songhua]

Another "investor" who had served his purpose !!

Thanks Tony.

Bye Tony.

Tony who?

[klubex99]

Another "investor" who had served his purpose !!

That is actually very rational.

Possibly lured him over from the west (or Patts) and sweet talked him into running a bar to support his stay in Korat/Thailand... The rest is history.

Then too ashamed to admit that she/they rolled Tony and dumped him.

Edit: Or he is going to have a row of houses built on him

Edited October 7, 2013 by klubex99

[I knew this would happen]

Another "investor" who had served his purpose !!

That is actually very rational.

Possibly lured him over from the west (or Patts) and sweet talked him into running a bar to support his stay in Korat/Thailand... The rest is history.

Then too ashamed to admit that she/they rolled Tony and dumped him.

Edit: Or he is going to have a row of houses built on him

Not the first guy and not the last one. Kicked out of the house, kicked out of the business and finally kicked out of the country. Sometimes even scared to death and threatend by the whole clan. And there´s nothing he could do and nowhere he could complain. Possibility of this horror story: 50-60%

(Sad) Business as usual in beautyful LOS

[tuky]

I once had a turtle called Tony.

He didn't make it to the swamp though.

[Jack Mountain]

New York! (ToNY).

[itchybum]

Did you order a meat dish ?

[klubex99]

Did you order a meat dish ?

I had pork balls

[JLCrab]

It might be a good idea not to become known on the premises as "The guy who keeps asking about Tony".

[BookMan]

It is okay! This lovely young lass in Pattaya has just found 4 more Tony's looking to open their dream bar.

[taotoo]

The real tragedy is that you didn't get a photo of that wonderful sign.

[David48]

Shaved his legs and she was a he?

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[NewlyMintedThai]

Was it this Tony?

http://www.tonydisco.com/Entertainment.html

[rgs2001uk]

Dont worry, he will soon be replaced.

There are probably about another 100 Tonys clearing immigration at Swampy right now.

[HeijoshinCool]

Did you order a meat dish ?

I had pork balls

Sure it was pork, not donkey?

[cpofc]

maybe Tony was just a bit tired the night you were there, and was off sleeping with the Pla Duk

I remember being in Hua Hin about 10 years ago, an Ex Australian Air Force bloke, Rodney, had opened a small bar with a few rooms. One afternoon he was telling me that he had not seen his Pommy mate for the best part of a week, which he said was unusual as they used to see each other daily. The Brit in question was said to be 'asset rich' in Hua Hin owning some prime land apparently, among other things. Then Rod went on to say that he saw his Ex (Thai) wife driving around Hua Hin in HIS car with a former, disgraced Thai copper in the vehicle with her. he was wondering whether or not he should be concerned. I told him he should ring the Brit Embassy immediately. Which he did.

They found the Brit about a week later face down in a swamp just outside of Hua Hin.

I believe they got the two hired guns that did it, but as far as I know I don't think anyone else got arrested, and that is about as much as I know.

[krisb]

Maybe Tony only needed pics of his venue for visa reasons?

[swissie]

Have always wondered how many "Tony's" there are in Thailand.

The Tony's that still Tony around and the Tony's that have "out-Tonyed" already. The figure must be mind-boggling.

Cheers.

[theblether]

maybe Tony was just a bit tired the night you were there, and was off sleeping with the Pla Duk

I remember being in Hua Hin about 10 years ago, an Ex Australian Air Force bloke, Rodney, had opened a small bar with a few rooms. One afternoon he was telling me that he had not seen his Pommy mate for the best part of a week, which he said was unusual as they used to see each other daily. The Brit in question was said to be 'asset rich' in Hua Hin owning some prime land apparently, among other things. Then Rod went on to say that he saw his Ex (Thai) wife driving around Hua Hin in HIS car with a former, disgraced Thai copper in the vehicle with her. he was wondering whether or not he should be concerned. I told him he should ring the Brit Embassy immediately. Which he did.

They found the Brit about a week later face down in a swamp just outside of Hua Hin.

I believe they got the two hired guns that did it, but as far as I know I don't think anyone else got arrested, and that is about as much as I know.

I think you may be referring to the Toby Charnaud murder......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-398630/Brit-killed-barbecued-split-Thai-bride.html

One of the most brutal and despicable of all ex pat murders.

[MacChine]

OT If this is real please call the police, in Bangkok, I would lie low too, remain anonymous to locals who are glancing at the swamp.

Long while back, pre Thai move, used to read a guy named Tony Clifton whose sentiments I wished I'd listened to and now share constantly.

Where is he now....

[klubex99]

maybe Tony was just a bit tired the night you were there, and was off sleeping with the Pla Duk

I remember being in Hua Hin about 10 years ago, an Ex Australian Air Force bloke, Rodney, had opened a small bar with a few rooms. One afternoon he was telling me that he had not seen his Pommy mate for the best part of a week, which he said was unusual as they used to see each other daily. The Brit in question was said to be 'asset rich' in Hua Hin owning some prime land apparently, among other things. Then Rod went on to say that he saw his Ex (Thai) wife driving around Hua Hin in HIS car with a former, disgraced Thai copper in the vehicle with her. he was wondering whether or not he should be concerned. I told him he should ring the Brit Embassy immediately. Which he did.

They found the Brit about a week later face down in a swamp just outside of Hua Hin.

I believe they got the two hired guns that did it, but as far as I know I don't think anyone else got arrested, and that is about as much as I know.

I think you may be referring to the Toby Charnaud murder......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-398630/Brit-killed-barbecued-split-Thai-bride.html

One of the most brutal and despicable of all ex pat murders.

The follow up story with the jail sentences is a much better read.

http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/910918.thai_bride_jailed_for_farmer_murder/

[klubex99]

OT If this is real please call the police, in Bangkok, I would lie low too, remain anonymous to locals who are glancing at the swamp.

Long while back, pre Thai move, used to read a guy named Tony Clifton whose sentiments I wished I'd listened to and now share constantly.

Where is he now....

It is real.... But I really don't think anything sinister is going on. Maybe the glances at the swamp were more that maybe Tony lives in one of the houses beyond the swamp

I think he was probably the gullible victim of a Thai bar girl honey trap shake down scam for his cash and dumped, I don't think anyone would need to bump him off, there is nothing he can really do if he was lured into parting with his cash to set up a business then told to sling his hook.

Edit: Mind you though. There was a Thai guy there who I noticed as looking very thuggish. He kept looking over at me, he was sort of reclining in a very relaxed posture with hands behind his head, like you may expect to recline in your own home while watching TV. He was still there when we left and that was approaching midnight.

Edited October 7, 2013 by klubex99

[cpofc]

No, that's not the one Blether, this was before 2006. This bloke was actually found 'whole' in a swamp. Seems to be somewhat prevalent in Hua Hin though.

one of the most horrific was in K'buri 2004? where the local police sergeant who was running a bar/restaurant there in Mae Nam Kwae Road ()with live band) at around 2:00AM, he shot the bloke in cold blood on the footpath with two .38 rounds to the chest, then chased, and ran the girlfriend down in his car dragging her down the road, under the car for about 200 metres, then he backed up over again. Opening the car door he could see she wasn't yet dead so he topped her with his pistol.

It was April and I arrived in K'Buri the next day and the place was a buzz with reporters, police, embassy people etc. The local Thais were shocked, horrified and clearly quite upset about the whole thing. It was extremely callous.

Why did he do it? That's another story. The Brit girl had played what turned out to be a deadly game. The bloke was shot because he insulted the coppers 'honour'. So he said in court. They had all been drinking.

He fled to Burma and later surrendered via his lawyer. He got life in the nick but he is probably walking free by now.

He was the described at the time as the local Thai Police 'hard Man' and enforcer.

[farang000999]

Shame you didn't snap a photo of the sign. Pay a copper to come about and question the first waitress. Tell her that Tony is missing and his family says that he had invested in this restaurant. She will squeal like a pig in heat!