Some foreigners need to have some pride in their appearance when being at Chiang Mai Immigration.

[lucifer666]

Whenever i go to immigration ( here in Hua Hin) i always wear long trousers, shirt and tie. I am normally called over to a desk, way before my ticket number is due, and i'm out of there within a few minutes. Whereas the Chang, t-shirted, shorts wearing ones sit there for ages. It pays to look smart methinks.

[FiftyTwo]

The replies to this topic forced me to recall that when I am at the immigration office it seems that expats from a certain English speaking country (that I will not need to name here) often come in with a bad attitude as well as deplorable attire.

Some actually argue with the officers in charge about rules and regulations that the officers have no influence over.

This just increases the waiting time for others and puts the officer in a poor mood for the next fellow in line!

The y are arrogant and act if as if they are superior to Thais and other expats as well!

After all ,they did actually attempt to ( and failed ) to colonize most of the world at one point in history.

They think they are doing all of us a favor by coming here and setting such a high example for us all to learn from.

And yes, most of them dress like.......we are lucky they bothered to put any clothes on at all!

I'm sure we are!

If I may try to answer your points as a British citizen.

1. Some officers make up their own rules, and change them every day, this is not cricket.

2. Who cares about the next in line, next time get here earlier!

3. Don't know about Thais in general, but most of us are superior to minor corrupt officials in any country.

4. Britain did manage to colonize more of the world than any other nation in recorded history. We didn't get the lot, but we did better than your country.

5. We are all doing Thailand a favour by spending our money here, why would anyone think differently?

6. I may dress badly today, but you are fat and bald you will still be fat and bald tomorrow.

Edited October 23, 2013 by FiftyTwo

[hanno]

Two foreigners on the way to the consulate:

[Commander Tamson]

 

 

 

A wee word to the OP

Coco Chanel said

Don't waste time beating on a wall, hoping to transform it into a door.

Whereas Johnny Wilkinson recently said

For me now, I will continue to focus ever harder on my goal of being the very best I can be with Toulon Rugby Club and continue to embrace and enjoy wherever that path takes me

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if you beat on a wall hard enough, it WILL become a door. Quite rough around the edges probably, but a door to get into the other side nonetheless.

 

How is this relevant? (not criticizing you, asking myself)

 

My 1st quote was by Coco Chanel, so obviously was related to fashion (and what people wear) - somewhat relevant methinks

My 2nd quote was a vain attempt to hijack the thread towards the Heineken Cup - Toulon being the current holders. Totally failed!

Has relevance ever been relevant on TV however?

...

 

 

An interesting question, Commander.

Despite a wealth of talent and a salary bill that would make Thaksin's eyes water, Toulon were still unable to overcome Cardiff Blues.  A timely reminder that money is not everything.  As the Thai Captain said, when interviewed following their Division Two triumph over Malaysia in 2012, their victory was down to the strength of their convictions and "heart".  

 

As others have said in this very thread - a sharp suit is no substitute for a correct form.

 

I am interested by one post on this page though, where apparently a young man needed a suit for collage in Korea.  That seems to be taking arts and crafts a bit too seriously, in my book

 

SC

The late,some say great, Andy Warhol was rarely seen not wearing a suit - admittedly they looked as if they had just come out of a back pack!

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[Commander Tamson]

Whenever i go to immigration ( here in Hua Hin) i always wear long trousers, shirt and tie. I am normally called over to a desk, way before my ticket number is due, and i'm out of there within a few minutes. Whereas the Chang, t-shirted, shorts wearing ones sit there for ages.  It pays to look smart methinks.

Have you ever considered that you being able to jump the queue may have something to do with the horns, the red skin and the forked tail?

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[FiftyTwo]

Whenever i go to immigration ( here in Hua Hin) i always wear long trousers, shirt and tie. I am normally called over to a desk, way before my ticket number is due, and i'm out of there within a few minutes. Whereas the Chang, t-shirted, shorts wearing ones sit there for ages. It pays to look smart methinks.

Have you ever considered that you being able to jump the queue may have something to do with the horns, the red skin and the forked tail?

Nah, it's the thousand baht note sticking out of his shirt pocket.

[pomchop]

So lots of posts ranting about how it is their right to wear anything they want to immigration and how dare anyone criticize them for looking like bums.....is this part of the same bunch that walks around Bangkok with NO SHIRT on....gee are they lost, looking for the beach, showing off their beer gut, never been to a city before? And then there are the women that parade around topless on some Thai beaches with big nipple rings and boobs hanging to their knees to the absolute shock of local thais and their kids? So where exactly do you draw the line as to what is acceptable and what is not? One day it's a guy in immigration with dirty torn clothes...the next it is a guy showing up with no shirt...the next day it's no shirt, no shoes...the next is torn pants with his rear end poking out. In most countries of the world there are certain unwritten rules of acceptable attire and behavior. Unfortunately there seem to be a lot of falangs living in Thailand who have zero respect for local cultural taboos....I would also bet that many of these same people are the ones who are constantly on Thai Visa bashing Thai people and their behavior because it doesn't meet their high standards of what is acceptable.

[Commander Tamson]

So lots of posts ranting about how it is their right to wear anything they want to immigration and how dare anyone criticize them for looking like bums.....is this part of the same bunch that walks around Bangkok with NO SHIRT on....gee are they lost, looking for the beach, showing off their beer gut, never been to a city before?  And then there are the women that parade around topless on some Thai beaches with big nipple rings and boobs hanging to their knees to the absolute shock of local thais and their kids?  So where exactly do you draw the line as to what is acceptable and what is not?  One day it's a guy in immigration with dirty torn clothes...the next it is a guy showing up with no shirt...the next day it's no shirt, no shoes...the next is torn pants with his rear end poking out.  In most countries of the world there are certain unwritten rules of acceptable attire and behavior.  Unfortunately there seem to be a lot of falangs living in Thailand who have zero respect for local cultural taboos....I would also bet that many of these same people are the ones who are constantly on Thai Visa bashing Thai people and their behavior because it doesn't meet their high standards of what is acceptable.

 

 

Hey! Jai Yen Yen - as Andy Warhol used to say.

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[LawrenceN]

Was at the Burmese Embassy visa section today and a lot of the Farang and other tourist there looked like down and outs. If you're going somewhere to apply for a visa to enter their country then surely you make an effort?!? Apparently not in a lot of cases. If I was on the visa desk i'd have turned them away for being tramps.

Reminds me of the first time I entered Singapore by bus in 1978 when I was 23 years old. A couple of backpackers on the bus chided me for wearing pressed slacks and a shirt with buttons and a collar. Maybe they asked me if I was a Mormon (I'm not), I forget the details. I just smiled as I sailed through Singapore immigration and they stood there answering multiple questions. I have continued my whole adult life to cross borders neatly dressed. That said, sometimes I go to CM Immigration on my bike, in spandex and bike jersey. Many times I have worn shorts. It doesn't seem to make any difference to them. And I agree with the comment that I don't represent anyone but myself. I don't dress neatly crossing borders because of "white guy pride"; I do it out of self-interest, to avoid hassles.

[PJcm]

I was going to make a comment, but then thought; common sense would just be wasted on TV.

[siampolee]

Well our rice harvesting commenced this very day, the Kuboto harvester has got to work as I watched clad in my flowery patterned shorts a T. shirt and Jesus boots (flip flops).

Tomorrow when the process starts again I shall array myself in my pinstripe suit and my bowler hat and highly polished shoes and carry my neatly furled umbrella (as one does in Isaan you know) and sing that delightful ditty of dear departed Noel Cowards "'Mad Dogs and Englishmen Go Out in The Midday Sun'' whilst observing the days proceeding. This will no doubt provide an amazing amount of mirth and merriment to the rest of the village onlookers

These actions and mode of dress will no doubt convince both the missus and the kids and the rest of the villagers that the farang has truly lost his marbles.

A white van will then no doubt appear driven by Napoleon the 3rd singing They're Coming to Take me Away Ha Ha as I am hustled inside with my jacket on back to front.

Clothes do not make a person.

[MJP]

Well our rice harvesting commenced this very day, the Kuboto harvester has got to work as I watched clad in my flowery patterned shorts a T. shirt and Jesus boots (flip flops).

Tomorrow when the process starts again I shall array myself in my pinstripe suit and my bowler hat and highly polished shoes and carry my neatly furled umbrella (as one does in Isaan you know) and sing that delightful ditty of dear departed Noel Cowards "'Mad Dogs and Englishmen Go Out in The Midday Sun'' whilst observing the days proceeding. This will no doubt provide an amazing amount of mirth and merriment to the rest of the village onlookers

These actions and mode of dress will no doubt convince both the missus and the kids and the rest of the villagers that the farang has truly lost his marbles.

A white van will then no doubt appear driven by Napoleon the 3rd singing They're Coming to Take me Away Ha Ha as I am hustled inside with my jacket on back to front.

Clothes do not make a person.

Nearly all my clothes are either torn or have paint on them. Or both.

Got a dark blue hibiscus pattern shirt and clean pair of trousers for the airport only.

[msealey]

I was going to make a comment, but then thought; common sense would just be wasted on TV.

Sorry but technically that still counts as a comment.

Edited October 23, 2013 by msealey

[donniereadit]

I like that sign someone posted about three posts above. HIPPIES!

These days, when it's time to do the 90 report, I follow the excellent advice on here (a TV exclusive!) and go to CM Imm. in the afternoon.

Started ignoring the expert advice and go in the late afternoon now, after a leisurely lunch. In and out in 5 minutes. Barely enough time to fill out the form.

[willyumiii]

The replies to this topic forced me to recall that when I am at the immigration office it seems that expats from a certain English speaking country (that I will not need to name here) often come in with a bad attitude as well as deplorable attire.

Some actually argue with the officers in charge about rules and regulations that the officers have no influence over.

This just increases the waiting time for others and puts the officer in a poor mood for the next fellow in line!

The y are arrogant and act if as if they are superior to Thais and other expats as well!

After all ,they did actually attempt to ( and failed ) to colonize most of the world at one point in history.

They think they are doing all of us a favor by coming here and setting such a high example for us all to learn from.

And yes, most of them dress like.......we are lucky they bothered to put any clothes on at all!

I'm sure we are!

If I may try to answer your points as a British citizen.

1. Some officers make up their own rules, and change them every day, this is not cricket.

2. Who cares about the next in line, next time get here earlier!

3. Don't know about Thais in general, but most of us are superior to minor corrupt officials in any country.

4. Britain did manage to colonize more of the world than any other nation in recorded history. We didn't get the lot, but we did better than your country.

5. We are all doing Thailand a favour by spending our money here, why would anyone think differently?

6. I may dress badly today, but you are fat and bald you will still be fat and bald tomorrow.

Exactly the kind of reply I would expect from one like you!

1, You are in their country..follow their rules.

2. You only care about yourself.

3. Yes, you are he best...keep believing that!

4, It sounds like you think slaughtering and exploiting others is something to be proud of!

5, Why think differently? To many ,things like culture, spirit, respect, compassion, and appearance are worth much more than the ever

dwindling pound

6, I dress well and am not fat or bald..6 ft 3 Inches tall and a full head of hair. I keep my hair trimmed and combed too!

Silly Americans!

Thanks for proving my point FiftyTwo!

Edited October 23, 2013 by willyumiii

[FiftyTwo]

The replies to this topic forced me to recall that when I am at the immigration office it seems that expats from a certain English speaking country (that I will not need to name here) often come in with a bad attitude as well as deplorable attire.

Some actually argue with the officers in charge about rules and regulations that the officers have no influence over.

This just increases the waiting time for others and puts the officer in a poor mood for the next fellow in line!

The y are arrogant and act if as if they are superior to Thais and other expats as well!

After all ,they did actually attempt to ( and failed ) to colonize most of the world at one point in history.

They think they are doing all of us a favor by coming here and setting such a high example for us all to learn from.

And yes, most of them dress like.......we are lucky they bothered to put any clothes on at all!

I'm sure we are!

If I may try to answer your points as a British citizen.

1. Some officers make up their own rules, and change them every day, this is not cricket.

2. Who cares about the next in line, next time get here earlier!

3. Don't know about Thais in general, but most of us are superior to minor corrupt officials in any country.

4. Britain did manage to colonize more of the world than any other nation in recorded history. We didn't get the lot, but we did better than your country.

5. We are all doing Thailand a favour by spending our money here, why would anyone think differently?

6. I may dress badly today, but you are fat and bald you will still be fat and bald tomorrow.

Exactly the kind of reply I would expect from one like you!

1, You are in their country..follow their rules.

2. you only care about yourself.

3. Yes, you are he best...keep believing that!

4, It sounds like you think slaughtering and exploiting others is something to be proud of!

5, Why think differently? To many things like culture, spirit, respect, compassion, and appearance are worth much more than the ever

dwindling pound

6, I dress well and am not fat or bald..6 ft 3 Inches tall and a full head of hair.

Thanks for proving my point FiftyTwo!

Yes, I agree, I proved you a humourless elderly gentleman.

[DrTuner]

I was going to make a comment, but then thought; common sense would just be wasted on TV.

Not wasted. It results in a flurry of wannabe politically correct replies. Some are so long way off the mark they are actually quite entertaining. So throw the fish a bait and see what you catch. Might be an English teacher in polyester suit, always good for a laugh.

[uptheos]

Whenever i go to immigration ( here in Hua Hin) i always wear long trousers, shirt and tie. I am normally called over to a desk, way before my ticket number is due, and i'm out of there within a few minutes. Whereas the Chang, t-shirted, shorts wearing ones sit there for ages. It pays to look smart methinks.

So your reason for looking smart is to serve your own advantage, not because you feel you need to?

This is logical,

[captspectre]

Please..... have some pride in your actions, clothing appearance & personal hygiene to understand that YOU are representing ALL foreigners to the Thai people when you are in country

Says who? I represent no one bar myself nor do I require anyone to represent me.

Daft post.

Not just in C.M. but in BKK as well. they arrive in tank tops, flip flops, and stink to high heaven and expect the Thai civil servant tol treat them normally? those kind of foreigners usually get sent back for more paper work just to get them out of the office! if you have no respect for yourself do not expect anyone else to have respect for you.I usually lok them in the eya and express my personal disgust at thier appearance with my actions. doesn't work! once a pig always a pig!

[uptheos]

I was going to make a comment, but then thought; common sense would just be wasted on TV.

But you did make a comment......so much for common sense.

[Thai at Heart]

I enjoyed the Thai woman/girl in the British embassy the other day in her denim hot pants, and red stilettos.

This isn't a one way street.

Edited October 24, 2013 by Thai at Heart

[AYJAYDEE]

I enjoyed the Thai woman/girl in the British embassy the other day in her denim hot pants, and red stilettos.

This isn't a one way street.

who claimed it was?

[thaibeachlovers]

Two foreigners on the way to the consulate:

That new walkway is so bad. It's just been made and already they are leaving the covers off the manholes.

[Commander Tamson]

I enjoyed the Thai woman/girl in the British embassy the other day in her denim hot pants, and red stilettos.

This isn't a one way street.

Photos please. You cannot make statements like that without photos to back it up! lol

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[daoyai]

Look at it this way, the poorly dressed expats give the "proper" chaps someone to feel superior to.... isn't that what this topic really represents?

[Pops]

Quote:

"Why do so many foreigners present themselves at immigration looking like they just fell out of a trash can? "

Since when is it mandatory to dress up to go to the immigration office or anywhere else for that matter ?

We have enough rules and regulations regarding do's and don'ts already.

You should ask yourself following question: why are people being judged on their appearance ?

Seen more scumbags in nice suits then in casual (even run down) clothing.

[AYJAYDEE]

Quote:

"Why do so many foreigners present themselves at immigration looking like they just fell out of a trash can? "

Since when is it mandatory to dress up to go to the immigration office or anywhere else for that matter ?

We have enough rules and regulations regarding do's and don'ts already.

You should ask yourself following question: why are people being judged on their appearance ?

Seen more scumbags in nice suits then in casual (even run down) clothing.

there are lots of things that I could ask myself why about but that wont change the fact that those things actually happen. if you want to give someone in authority some reason to lose respect for you and perhaps make your life a bit more uncomfortable, go for it.

[cpofc]

something to lighten the mood a little.

Manila, Xmas '77?

My mate, Barney's Filiipina girlfriend, Miss Louisa 'Baby' Rivera, fronted up at our place one day, in Manila, and extended an invitation for the 5 of us to travel to Angeles City, which was where her family home was. She didn't give any details, and as we didn't have much going on at the time, we thought, why not? We never visited Angeles City much, as it was strictly an 'Air Force Town' (USAF) But a weekend in Angeles at the request of Baby seemed like not a bad way to spend a weekend. So we jumped on the the bus (the Filippino 'Rabbit) and off we went.

It was Saturday afternoon when we arrived and once we had settled into our hotel rooms Baby fronted around to each of us in turn and handed us a personal invitation. It was on real, rolled up and wax sealed parchment! In the most beautiful, handscripted black ink old style writing. Very impressive.

Surprise, Surpise. We had each been invited, as VIP Guests, to the Inaugral no less, Formal Ball being given by the President of The Bar Owners Association of Angeles City. Baby had not bothered to mention this. The President was actually her Father and was the owner of the 'Blue Eagle Bar'.

At such short notice and believing that we were just going for the fun of it and a for few beers we just threw a few things in a small grip, like a change of shorts and T Shirts.

By this stage with the ball just a few hours away, there was no way out of it. So we fronted in our shorts, T Shirts and Thongs. Looking more like spending a day on 'The Hill' at the SCG watching cricket, than attending a formal ball. The only thing missing was the Zinc Cream and Esky.

It was held outdoors at a school, where they set it up on the Basketball Courts. Right up the front was the VIP Table, where we were seated. Our table had a full spread of 'Top Shelf' Liquor. Whilst the other 'peasants' just got San Mig Beer and Tanduay Rum LOL

The Commander of Clarke Airbase, his deputy, and all the other who's who of Angeles City were there. All dressed to their 9's, in their most expensive and elaborate 'Barong Tagalogs'.

It was a tad embarrassing. I still wonder what many of them must have thought. Who the hell were these blokes? We weren't yanks. We weren't local of Angeles. Who the hell were we?

Fortuantely the embarrassment eased as the alcohol flowed freely and everyone got oiled up. Turned out to be a great night.

[Exsexyman]

Yeah, we have all seen those overdressed farang at immigration. Wai'ing everything that moves, including the soidogs whilst they are holding their teamoney in their small sweaty hands!

We with a little more relaxed dresscode, are often wondering why some people dress like English ganglanders before a courthearing, an illfitting suit in a tropical climate??

But because we are more tolerant than the "ganglanders", we don't start threads here about other peoples choices. We just live and let live. You should try it, makes life easier!

BTW. When I go to any government office, I represent myself and only myself!

I suspect that the overdressed farangs at immigration in suits and ties who Wai everything that moves, ( and i'm sure we have all seen them), are over compensating because they have a guilty conscience. Probably have a dodgy visa and are sweating in case they get caught! Just my theory.

[GirlDrinkDrunk]

i dont see the point of discussion.

if someone wants to go to immigration dressed like a hobo it just makes my time there that much easier.

so what exactly is the issue?

Edited October 24, 2013 by GirlDrinkDrunk