Lite Beer Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 POLITICSGerman photojournalist attackedBANGKOK: -- The Foreign Correspondents Club of Thailand has voiced concern following an attack on a German photojournalist on Monday, allegedly after he was identified as a "redshirt" at a rally.Nick Nostitz, a freelance cameraman who has written two books about political turbulence in Thailand in recent years, was allegedly punched after being singled out by a speaker.The FCCT issued a statement Monday that said: "An accredited foreign journalist was today assaulted by anti-government protesters while doing his job covering the ongoing protests."Details are not clear but initial reports say a speaker from the stage singled him out, triggering the assault. The incident was also featured on Blue Sky TV, and Internet comments continued to target the journalist."The FCCT deplores this in the strongest possible terms, and calls upon protest leaders to unequivocally and publicly state that the rights of journalists, foreign or Thai, should be respected."Nostitz has lived and worked in Thailand for many years. He was not badly injured, one colleague said. -- The Nation 2013-11-25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Moved to another more appropriate thread. Edited November 25, 2013 by ratcatcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thait Spot Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 Accredited he may be. Neutral he is not. But there is no excuse for violence. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 I hope he gets well soon. Wherever your political preference lies, i don't think there is any excuse for this, his opinion and what he sees/reports is up to him. Seems like many people on here are going to have to do about turns soon, as they are going exactly the same way as the red shirts did. I don't support it,but it will make 'interesting' reading when the violence escalates and all those who have been supporting the army etc for their crackdown on the red shirts are put in a very awkward position, and start shifting goal posts all over the place to accentuate differences. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOboe57 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 It was a case of mistaken identity. Some hooligans wanted to have a go at the redshirt NN and got the journalist NN instead. While I strongly condemn any violence I have to question NN's decision to show up at an anti-government rally after having taken every opportunity to publicly spread his pledge of allegiance to the red side. But he always insisted that the journalist NN was not biased at all. So maybe this incident came as a healthy wakeup call. I wish you a speedy recovery and hope you take some time out and look back "sine ira ac studio". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pi Sek Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 Nick and I have diametrically opposing views on - well - everything. But, if he's been disseminating misinformation or a one-sided story or whatever, and that's legally unacceptable, then arrest him. Otherwise, sorry, it's a democracy (supposedly) and he can say what he wants, within one or two limits. But you can't condone him getting punched in the face for showing up at a protest to report on what's being said. Maybe Nick and I agree on something here. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Given his less than impartial and unbalanced reporting in the past, I have to question his common sense in setting foot in the oppositions camp. The "journalist" badge has no respect here and offers no protection whatsoever, and Thai's have a very long memory for any "slights" they feel have occurred. Don't misunderstand me (fab4, Rich Teacher et al), I'm not condoning what happened, it's despicable, but it's not at all surprising it happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 Red or yellow, fascists have only one response to those who are critical of them or hold a different view. Violence. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 Given his less than impartial and unbalanced reporting in the past, I have to question his common sense in setting foot in the oppositions camp. The "journalist" badge has no respect here and offers no protection whatsoever, and Thai's have a very long memory for any "slights" they feel have occurred. Don't misunderstand me (fab4, Rich Teacher et al), I'm not condoning what happened, it's despicable, but it's not at all surprising it happened. Its all subjective, he saw and reported what he saw-just because you personally dont agree with it, does not make it incorrect. Perhaps he is telling the truth, probably having more first hand experience than me and i dare say a number of people on here. Whose tosay his reporting is incorrect? Can you argue back with any first hand photos, accounts? Has he not even been a witness in court? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I saw the incident on tv and wondered how he managed to get himself between the Police and the demonstrators? Only a fool would get into that position unless he was trying to provoke a situation, everything seemed peaceful until he turned up. Some people will do anything for 500bts! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamMunich Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I don't know him personally and attacking a journalist is out of question, BUT... Some people do take risks or even provoke an incident so that they can report on it afterwards. I don't know, if Nick is such a person, but given, how hardcore a red-shirt he is, it wouldn't make me wonder if that is the case. And one thing is to spare journalists, same like nurses and emergency staff from altercation, but then why not extend that to ALL people? And what about yellow shirt reporters being beaten up? I recall a radio station guy in Chiang Mai being killed by red shirt supporters, because he was on the other side of the political divide. They killed him in his home soi. The only thing we can expect from this actual incident is Nick furiously ranting about the Dems etc. And sometimes I wonder, if he would think differently, if he weren't living in such a red-shirt hotbed like Bang Bua Thong... Sam of the other side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 If some-one drills wind will reap storm. This is pretty sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 Nick and I have diametrically opposing views on - well - everything. But, if he's been disseminating misinformation or a one-sided story or whatever, and that's legally unacceptable, then arrest him. Otherwise, sorry, it's a democracy (supposedly) and he can say what he wants, within one or two limits. But you can't condone him getting punched in the face for showing up at a protest to report on what's being said. Maybe Nick and I agree on something here. It would seem from a report on facebook from someone who was there that he was doing more than reporting. He is apparently fluent in Thai and was reported as yelling and swearing at people. There were those who resented that and he was chased out with a few slaps round the ears. There is a video of it all but I don't have a link. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 To all well-wishers: I saw Nick on Channel7 around 5PM. He was looking normal, finger pointing to right cheek, bit of a (thin) smile. Lasted about 15 seconds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Nick and I have diametrically opposing views on - well - everything. But, if he's been disseminating misinformation or a one-sided story or whatever, and that's legally unacceptable, then arrest him. Otherwise, sorry, it's a democracy (supposedly) and he can say what he wants, within one or two limits. But you can't condone him getting punched in the face for showing up at a protest to report on what's being said. Maybe Nick and I agree on something here. It would seem from a report on facebook from someone who was there that he was doing more than reporting. He is apparently fluent in Thai and was reported as yelling and swearing at people. There were those who resented that and he was chased out with a few slaps round the ears. There is a video of it all but I don't have a link. That's certainly the story that the anti-govt types are putting out there. I'll believe it when I see the video. Do you honestly believe that Nick would provoke them for no reason? Edited November 25, 2013 by Emptyset 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I hope he gets well soon. Wherever your political preference lies, i don't think there is any excuse for this, his opinion and what he sees/reports is up to him. Seems like many people on here are going to have to do about turns soon, as they are going exactly the same way as the red shirts did. I don't support it,but it will make 'interesting' reading when the violence escalates and all those who have been supporting the army etc for their crackdown on the red shirts are put in a very awkward position, and start shifting goal posts all over the place to accentuate differences. "You sound like a balanced person" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 To all well-wishers: I saw Nick on Channel7 around 5PM. He was looking normal, finger pointing to right cheek, bit of a (thin) smile. Lasted about 15 seconds. I'm sure he will be touched by your concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 It would seem from a report on facebook from someone who was there that he was doing more than reporting. He is apparently fluent in Thai and was reported as yelling and swearing at people. There were those who resented that and he was chased out with a few slaps round the ears. There is a video of it all but I don't have a link. You haven't learned a damned thing about sighting sources have you? Fortunately it was already posted elsewhere earlier today... You enjoy giving fab4 ammunition? There's no video of the entire event, unless someone recorded from Blue Sky, but there is a short clip of Nostitz being bundled out... The pictures that were posted of him making a police report also indicate very little physical evidence of a physical assault taking place... Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarhall Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 imagine if it was the other way he would have been shot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry1011 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Peaceful protest. As long as you agree with the protesters Sent from my HTC One using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post longway Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 I almost never agree with his views, but he very honest in reporting what he observes or hears IMO, better than anything The Nation can muster for sure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post farangman Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 Nick is a friend of mine and I have known him 10+ years. We used to be neighbours. Now we are complete opposites when it comes to political assessment, however I condemn wholeheartedly what happened to him if these reports are true (which I am sure are true). Nick is probably the most passionate political guy I know. I disagree with 99% of what he says, but I will defend his right to go about his job in any which way he sees fit. There are thugs on both sides, but what I condemn the most is that it seems to have been instigated from the stage. Nick if you are reading this, I do not know what you were trying to accomplish, but I defend your right to do so. From an anti-government supporter! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I have removed some flames, derogatory and troll posts and the replies to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post diceq Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2013 Expected behavior from fascist supporters. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Accredited he may be. Neutral he is not. But there is no excuse for violence. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app There are no neutral journalists. Only people who think there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I'd like to know what he actually said. Or whether he was reacting to something that was said to him. Either way, he doesn't enjoy any particular protection by wearing a journalist badge if he identifies himself with a particular cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Not much to say apart from I hope he's OK. If it's known who instigated this from the stage they need dealing with as well. The anti government protests seem to have been generally peaceful and they need to stay that way so thy don't lose credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Not much to say apart from I hope he's OK. If it's known who instigated this from the stage they need dealing with as well. The anti government protests seem to have been generally peaceful and they need to stay that way so thy don't lose credibility. They are fascists who wants to overthrow a democratically elected government. What credibility do they have in your opinion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Not much to say apart from I hope he's OK. If it's known who instigated this from the stage they need dealing with as well. The anti government protests seem to have been generally peaceful and they need to stay that way so thy don't lose credibility. It was former Democrat MP Chumpon. More details here: http://prachatai.com/english/node/3756 '“In the rallies, there might be shouting or yelling from the protesters, but that’s fine. But such singling out by the leader to attack journalist, I’ve never seen before. It’s the first time in my life that this happened,” he said, adding that he would not go back and cover this anti-government rally again due to his safety. He also denied the Democrat's accusation that he received money from the former PM Thaksin Shinawatra. "If I really take money from Thaksin, why would I still ride the old motorcycle to go around covering events?" said Nostitz' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Has anybody got any video footage of the incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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